1 k 24 r erg

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will3
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1 k 24 r erg

Post by will3 » August 18th, 2022, 5:17 am

Hi All,
Just recently did a 1k 24 r erg test and was wondering how this translated to 2k. Does this give a rough idea of 2k split from anybody's experience and if so how close was it.
Thanks,
Will

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Re: 1 k 24 r erg

Post by JaapvanE » August 18th, 2022, 6:49 am

You typically add 5 seconds to your pace for each time the distance doubles (it is known as Paul's Law). This is a guestimate that more ir less holds on average. For me, it is around 3.5 seconds.

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Re: 1 k 24 r erg

Post by Dangerscouse » August 18th, 2022, 9:29 am

There are a few variables in a 1k @r24 so it's not massively helpful imo.

I'd agree that five seconds is about right, it is for me anyway, but that is for a no restrictions 1k TT, and the r24 is a curveball, that will be specific to you if you're more suited to lower, higher or medium stroke rates.

Ideally you'll use r30+, but in reality r26 or r24 might be as high as you can go, and your efficiency stays steady or decreases as you go to a higher stroke rate, and double the distance. Therefore a 1k r24 session probably won't be transferable to an all out 2k.

The best way to know, is to a 2k, or to do some relevant intervals to really test you, as there can be, and usually is, a world of difference in that second 1k.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: 1 k 24 r erg

Post by Tsnor » August 18th, 2022, 10:47 am

These calculators are not that accurate, but can be fun.

Plug in two measurements here and it'll guess the 2K time. 1K and 5K would be perfect. https://www.freespiritsrowing.com/forum ... -predictor

Plug in your 1K here and then click 2K on the bottom: https://www.machars.net/ultimate.php Harder to use, but you can figure it out.

https://www.cavanhagan.com/rowing-calculator needs 100m and 5k

Power / wattage profile here: https://ergrowing.com/2k-erg-power-profile-calculator/

The RANKING DATABASE is also fun. Target the 50% for your age group and row it. https://log.concept2.com/rankings

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btlifter
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Re: 1 k 24 r erg

Post by btlifter » August 18th, 2022, 11:06 am

I did an r24 1k, once. It was about 3 splits faster than my 2k.
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Re: 1 k 24 r erg

Post by Dangerscouse » August 18th, 2022, 1:08 pm

btlifter wrote:
August 18th, 2022, 11:06 am
I did an r24 1k, once. It was about 3 splits faster than my 2k.
Only 1:26 pace?!?! Show off :mrgreen:
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: 1 k 24 r erg

Post by jamesg » August 19th, 2022, 3:48 am

Just recently did a 1k 24 r erg test and was wondering how this translated to 2k.
As the 1k was a test, presumably you used your full stroke. For a 2k you need to learn to pull that same stroke, but at rate 30 up. Just do the sums: if it was a 10W' stroke (= Power/Rating ratio), 10*30 = 300W. Might take a few days practice, 2k is a long way, so results depend heavily on endurance.

Otherwise you need to do the 1k test flat out. The power ratio to 2k will be about 84% if you have trained. Normally rate 24 work as used in training for 2k would be borderline UT1-AT, such as 3x 7 minutes or so, full stroke.
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2024: stroke 5.5W-min@20-21. ½k 190W, 1k 145W, 2k 120W. Using Wods 4-5days/week. Fading fast.

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