New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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winniewinser
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » April 26th, 2022, 9:13 am

Sakly wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 6:55 am
5k TT with 4.7s faster:

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Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	HR
18:24.3	5,000m	1:50.4	260	1194	26	177
3:37.1	1,000m	1:48.5	274	1241	27	174
3:39.0	2,000m	1:49.5	267	1217	27	175
3:43.5	3,000m	1:51.7	251	1163	26	175
3:44.2	4,000m	1:52.1	248	1155	27	178
3:40.4	5,000m	1:50.2	262	1200	27	183
Really hard, but wanted to see where I am on my way back.
Looks like fly and die 😅
Big congrats! :)
6'2" 52yo
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Captain Darling » April 26th, 2022, 9:56 am

Sakly wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 6:55 am
5k TT with 4.7s faster:

Code: Select all

 
Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	HR
18:24.3	5,000m	1:50.4	260	1194	26	177
3:37.1	1,000m	1:48.5	274	1241	27	174
3:39.0	2,000m	1:49.5	267	1217	27	175
3:43.5	3,000m	1:51.7	251	1163	26	175
3:44.2	4,000m	1:52.1	248	1155	27	178
3:40.4	5,000m	1:50.2	262	1200	27	183
Really hard, but wanted to see where I am on my way back.
Looks like fly and die 😅
Cracking work that, congrats Sakly.

I've had several 5ks in the past where I needed to drop of the pace slightly in the middle like that due to a tendency to let adrenaline at the start of a TT get the better of me. The grit to get through those 3rd and 4th 1000m whilst seeing higher splits is great work. At that stage seeing the split drift up hurts mentally, then the legs and lungs are of course starting to hurt physically! Getting through test pieces like that gives you so much belief for the next one in my experience.
29 M 6'1" 180lbs
PBs: 2k 6:39, 5k 17:31 - Both made prior to serious illness, in my mid-twenties and at around 195lbs
Very simple comeback target after BPP of a sub 7:00 2k

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » April 26th, 2022, 10:10 am

winniewinser wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 9:13 am
Big congrats! :)
Captain Darling wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 9:56 am
Cracking work that, congrats Sakly.
Thx much, guys 😄

This run felt so much harder than my last 5k PB, so I know I am not where I was before helth issues, but my focus and willpower to go through hard times is fully back already. This is one (or the most?) important part for hard sessions and was always my biggest advantage compared to others while lacking power.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » April 26th, 2022, 10:24 am

Sakly wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 6:55 am
5k TT with 4.7s faster:

Code: Select all

 
Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	HR
18:24.3	5,000m	1:50.4	260	1194	26	177
3:37.1	1,000m	1:48.5	274	1241	27	174
3:39.0	2,000m	1:49.5	267	1217	27	175
3:43.5	3,000m	1:51.7	251	1163	26	175
3:44.2	4,000m	1:52.1	248	1155	27	178
3:40.4	5,000m	1:50.2	262	1200	27	183
Really hard, but wanted to see where I am on my way back.
Looks like fly and die 😅
Well done Sascha. The 3.5-4k stage is where it really does bite when you're going full on...unless your Tom George.

You'll keep improving on this as you're still sharpening up after your time off
50 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Captain Darling » April 26th, 2022, 10:38 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 10:24 am
Sakly wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 6:55 am
5k TT with 4.7s faster:

Code: Select all

 
Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	HR
18:24.3	5,000m	1:50.4	260	1194	26	177
3:37.1	1,000m	1:48.5	274	1241	27	174
3:39.0	2,000m	1:49.5	267	1217	27	175
3:43.5	3,000m	1:51.7	251	1163	26	175
3:44.2	4,000m	1:52.1	248	1155	27	178
3:40.4	5,000m	1:50.2	262	1200	27	183
Really hard, but wanted to see where I am on my way back.
Looks like fly and die 😅
Well done Sascha. The 3.5-4k stage is where it really does bite when you're going full on...unless your Tom George.

You'll keep improving on this as you're still sharpening up after your time off
I'm increasingly convinced that Tom George was built in a lab. That 5000m world record is absurd. Sub 1:30 for nearly 20 minutes. Mind blowing.

I'm just hoping George and Moe Sbihi are in the men's 4 for Paris 2024 as they try to reclaim that gold GB held for so long. Incredible athletes.
29 M 6'1" 180lbs
PBs: 2k 6:39, 5k 17:31 - Both made prior to serious illness, in my mid-twenties and at around 195lbs
Very simple comeback target after BPP of a sub 7:00 2k

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » April 26th, 2022, 10:50 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 10:24 am
Well done Sascha. The 3.5-4k stage is where it really does bite when you're going full on...unless your Tom George.

You'll keep improving on this as you're still sharpening up after your time off
Thx Stu.
This was exactly the stage where my willpower had to kick in to stay on track today!
I think I will keep improving, but will not become a second Tom George at my age 😅

I think I will follow the negative split approach and start a bit slower next time.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by aussie nick » April 26th, 2022, 9:05 pm

Sakly wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 6:55 am
5k TT with 4.7s faster:

Code: Select all

 
Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	HR
18:24.3	5,000m	1:50.4	260	1194	26	177
3:37.1	1,000m	1:48.5	274	1241	27	174
3:39.0	2,000m	1:49.5	267	1217	27	175
3:43.5	3,000m	1:51.7	251	1163	26	175
3:44.2	4,000m	1:52.1	248	1155	27	178
3:40.4	5,000m	1:50.2	262	1200	27	183
Really hard, but wanted to see where I am on my way back.
Looks like fly and die 😅
great PR - welcome back! You're tougher than me...no way I could go out that hard and then hold it together.
M/52/6ft/86kg
took up rowing during pandemic

500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » April 26th, 2022, 11:36 pm

aussie nick wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 9:05 pm
great PR - welcome back! You're tougher than me...no way I could go out that hard and then hold it together.
Thx Nick - I really wanted that PR to prove I am on track and willpower is on right setting!
Even after my bodyweight session in the evening (~6 hours after rowing session) I am feeling great today after ~6.5 hours of deep sleep 😊
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Spinal » April 27th, 2022, 1:47 am

Sakly wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 6:55 am
5k TT with 4.7s faster:

Code: Select all

 
Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	HR
18:24.3	5,000m	1:50.4	260	1194	26	177
3:37.1	1,000m	1:48.5	274	1241	27	174
3:39.0	2,000m	1:49.5	267	1217	27	175
3:43.5	3,000m	1:51.7	251	1163	26	175
3:44.2	4,000m	1:52.1	248	1155	27	178
3:40.4	5,000m	1:50.2	262	1200	27	183
Really hard, but wanted to see where I am on my way back.
Looks like fly and die 😅
Congrats on the PB Sakly, the 5k is a horrible distance regardless and you managed to hold it together even after going out too hard :face_vomiting: :clap:
1981, 174cm, 70.5kg LWT
Row 2k 6:58.2 5k 18:43.8
Ski 5k 18:49.1 60mins 15105mtrs HM 1:23:59.6

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » April 28th, 2022, 1:14 pm

Sakly wrote:
April 26th, 2022, 6:55 am
5k TT with 4.7s faster:

Code: Select all

 
Time	Meters	Pace	Watts	Cal/Hr	S/M	HR
18:24.3	5,000m	1:50.4	260	1194	26	177
3:37.1	1,000m	1:48.5	274	1241	27	174
3:39.0	2,000m	1:49.5	267	1217	27	175
3:43.5	3,000m	1:51.7	251	1163	26	175
3:44.2	4,000m	1:52.1	248	1155	27	178
3:40.4	5,000m	1:50.2	262	1200	27	183
Really hard, but wanted to see where I am on my way back.
Looks like fly and die 😅
Great work - the negative split isn't ideal but I have done many PBs in a similar manner.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » April 29th, 2022, 1:05 am

KeithT wrote:
April 28th, 2022, 1:14 pm
Great work - the negative split isn't ideal but I have done many PBs in a similar manner.
Thx - at the beginning I was convinced I could keep the pace 😇
But then reality kicked in 😂😂
I am sure to be able to peel of another few seconds when fully back on old level.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » May 1st, 2022, 11:52 am

Default 60' Skierg PB as first time....

14,340m 2:05.5 spm37
6'2" 52yo
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Sakly » May 1st, 2022, 3:55 pm

winniewinser wrote:
May 1st, 2022, 11:52 am
Default 60' Skierg PB as first time....

14,340m 2:05.5 spm37
Oh, right, did the same on rowErg some days ago - 14,712m @20spm.
Male - '80 - 82kg - 177cm - Start rowErg Jan 2022
1': 358m
4': 1217m
30'r20: 8068m
30': 8,283m
60': 16,222m
100m: 0:16.1
500m: 1:27.1
1k: 3:07.8
2k: 6:37.1
5k: 17:39.6
6k: 21:03.5
10k: 36:01.5
HM: 1:18:40.1
FM: 2:52:32.6
My log

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » May 2nd, 2022, 9:23 am

50K PB....because it was my first one!

So, this may ramble but what a strange and partly horrifying experience. I promised that I was not going for a specific time and just wanted to finish the 50K. With that idea I figured the 50K would be easier than my 2 prior FMs in the last 2 years where I did try to hit a goal time. I did say that I wanted to be under 3:30 but thought that was a guarantee. Well, of course my plans got completely wrecked. I had an idea to do a fairly aggressive positive split and build a little cushion in case I needed it later. Plan was to do 5K at 1:57 pace then slow to 1:59, 2:01.....slow 2 seconds every 5K and end rowing at a slow 2:15, this gets me under 3:30.

I had an simple breakfast of oatmeal, banana and some peanut butter - had two bottles of sports drink by my side and slices of banana and oranges to refuel a bit every 5K. Off we go (10:00 AM) - I do the 1:57 5K as planned and feel good and then decide to just drop 1 second to 1:58 for second 5K. Thru 10K I feel shockingly good, so decide to drop just 1 second to 1:59 for third 5K, then since still feeling good keep it there for the next 5K. Then drop to 2:00 for the 5th 5K. So, halfway in and I am on a 1:58.6 pace and feel great!

This is where I start thinking "I can average a sub 2:00 pace for the 50K - I can go like 2:01 the rest of the way and hit that". So, 6th and 7th 5k at 2:01. Suddenly at 35K mark I started feeling bad - I knew this would come and was ready but I couldn't fight it and I slowed to a 2:05 pace. However, I am still right at 2:00 pace overall with 10K to go and that's when I hit a wall like nothing I have ever experience before. I mean I get to the point of muscles freezing up when doing 500M, 1K and 2K TTs when sprinting and I was beyond exhausted at the end of my FMs but this was different. I started getting cramps in my forearms and weird pains everywhere and my sitz bones were in agony. I was pulling hard but got to where I was pulling 2:10. All thoughts of 2:00 were gone and my mind was screaming at me to stop - I slowed way down into the 2:15 and even 2:20 range for a bit. I was in pure survival mode the rest of the way and ended the whole thing at a 2:02.3 pace - 3:23:49.9 total.

When done I was a mess. I couldn't, eat for several hours and I felt hot/cold on and off and my sitz bones were a disaster. I felt a little better in the evening and finally ate and moved around some. Now what's really weird is today I feel fine and my leg muscles and such aren't even sore. Other than a couple blisters I feel fine other than sitz bones. The way I felt after I thought I was going to be a mess for days. I am having a hard time trying to understand what happened to me. Anyway, that's my long story for my first 50K.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » May 2nd, 2022, 9:58 am

KeithT wrote:
May 2nd, 2022, 9:23 am
50K PB....because it was my first one!

So, this may ramble but what a strange and partly horrifying experience. I promised that I was not going for a specific time and just wanted to finish the 50K. With that idea I figured the 50K would be easier than my 2 prior FMs in the last 2 years where I did try to hit a goal time. I did say that I wanted to be under 3:30 but thought that was a guarantee. Well, of course my plans got completely wrecked. I had an idea to do a fairly aggressive positive split and build a little cushion in case I needed it later. Plan was to do 5K at 1:57 pace then slow to 1:59, 2:01.....slow 2 seconds every 5K and end rowing at a slow 2:15, this gets me under 3:30.

I had an simple breakfast of oatmeal, banana and some peanut butter - had two bottles of sports drink by my side and slices of banana and oranges to refuel a bit every 5K. Off we go (10:00 AM) - I do the 1:57 5K as planned and feel good and then decide to just drop 1 second to 1:58 for second 5K. Thru 10K I feel shockingly good, so decide to drop just 1 second to 1:59 for third 5K, then since still feeling good keep it there for the next 5K. Then drop to 2:00 for the 5th 5K. So, halfway in and I am on a 1:58.6 pace and feel great!

This is where I start thinking "I can average a sub 2:00 pace for the 50K - I can go like 2:01 the rest of the way and hit that". So, 6th and 7th 5k at 2:01. Suddenly at 35K mark I started feeling bad - I knew this would come and was ready but I couldn't fight it and I slowed to a 2:05 pace. However, I am still right at 2:00 pace overall with 10K to go and that's when I hit a wall like nothing I have ever experience before. I mean I get to the point of muscles freezing up when doing 500M, 1K and 2K TTs when sprinting and I was beyond exhausted at the end of my FMs but this was different. I started getting cramps in my forearms and weird pains everywhere and my sitz bones were in agony. I was pulling hard but got to where I was pulling 2:10. All thoughts of 2:00 were gone and my mind was screaming at me to stop - I slowed way down into the 2:15 and even 2:20 range for a bit. I was in pure survival mode the rest of the way and ended the whole thing at a 2:02.3 pace - 3:23:49.9 total.

When done I was a mess. I couldn't, eat for several hours and I felt hot/cold on and off and my sitz bones were a disaster. I felt a little better in the evening and finally ate and moved around some. Now what's really weird is today I feel fine and my leg muscles and such aren't even sore. Other than a couple blisters I feel fine other than sitz bones. The way I felt after I thought I was going to be a mess for days. I am having a hard time trying to understand what happened to me. Anyway, that's my long story for my first 50K.
I was waiting for your 50k post, always love your writing!
This sounds absolutely horrible, when someone with such a strong will and pain tolerance hits the wall that hard I'm sure most people would have stopped, inspiring how you struggled through! And more than 6' faster than your minimum target is great, big congrats! :)
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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