Going again so soon after the 2k TT was bound to be tough, especially considering the slog of a 10k. That last split 2:04.4 displayed guts, congrats on the new PB!!max_ratcliffe wrote: ↑February 24th, 2022, 8:36 amLast hurrah for the TdS this year.
42:01.3 10,000m 2:06.0 175 901 33 178
8:18.0 2,000m 2:04.5 181 924 33 174
8:22.6 4,000m 2:05.6 176 907 33 176
8:30.0 6,000m 2:07.5 169 881 33 178
8:32.8 8,000m 2:08.2 166 871 32 179
8:17.8 10,000m 2:04.4 182 924 36 187![]()
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Absolute purgatory, but a 7s PB nevertheless.
Heart rate tells the story really. It shot up to high 140s in the warm up but I put that down to nerves. Then the first 2k felt pretty good and I was pretty confident sub 41:30 was on the cards... but it seemed a very very long way after that.
Tbh I wasn't sure that I was 100% recovered from Sunday's 2k and I think this confirms that I wasn't. Very similar pace to the 60' I did a few weeks ago, so in that context a bit disappointing, but I really should stop being a malcontent! Four pbs in four weeks is pretty tidy, and I'll be going some to do that next year ( clearly I'm just approaching my athletic peak at 51).
The TdS is very hard to train for during February itself. Think I need a plan for next year.
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Row 2k 6:58.2 5k 18:43.8
Ski 5k 18:49.1 60mins 15105mtrs HM 1:23:59.6
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Ski 5k 18:49.1 60mins 15105mtrs HM 1:23:59.6
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Congrats Ski Buddy......a PB is nothing to be sniffed at and 4 in 4 weeks is great going. Well done for keeping this going and getting the PBmax_ratcliffe wrote: ↑February 24th, 2022, 8:36 amLast hurrah for the TdS this year.
42:01.3 10,000m 2:06.0 175 901 33 178
8:18.0 2,000m 2:04.5 181 924 33 174
8:22.6 4,000m 2:05.6 176 907 33 176
8:30.0 6,000m 2:07.5 169 881 33 178
8:32.8 8,000m 2:08.2 166 871 32 179
8:17.8 10,000m 2:04.4 182 924 36 187
Absolute purgatory, but a 7s PB nevertheless.
Heart rate tells the story really. It shot up to high 140s in the warm up but I put that down to nerves. Then the first 2k felt pretty good and I was pretty confident sub 41:30 was on the cards... but it seemed a very very long way after that.
Tbh I wasn't sure that I was 100% recovered from Sunday's 2k and I think this confirms that I wasn't. Very similar pace to the 60' I did a few weeks ago, so in that context a bit disappointing, but I really should stop being a malcontent! Four pbs in four weeks is pretty tidy, and I'll be going some to do that next year ( clearly I'm just approaching my athletic peak at 51).
The TdS is very hard to train for during February itself. Think I need a plan for next year.

I agree that the 2km takes a lot from you....certainly hits you hard for a number of days. My last ski was horrible and felt rough so clearly similar effects. Not sure when I will do mine.....will see how I feel post a warmup and then chuck myself into it.
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Never stop being a malcontent, as I'll feel obliged to change too.max_ratcliffe wrote: ↑February 24th, 2022, 8:36 amLast hurrah for the TdS this year.
42:01.3 10,000m 2:06.0 175 901 33 178
8:18.0 2,000m 2:04.5 181 924 33 174
8:22.6 4,000m 2:05.6 176 907 33 176
8:30.0 6,000m 2:07.5 169 881 33 178
8:32.8 8,000m 2:08.2 166 871 32 179
8:17.8 10,000m 2:04.4 182 924 36 187
Absolute purgatory, but a 7s PB nevertheless.
Heart rate tells the story really. It shot up to high 140s in the warm up but I put that down to nerves. Then the first 2k felt pretty good and I was pretty confident sub 41:30 was on the cards... but it seemed a very very long way after that.
Tbh I wasn't sure that I was 100% recovered from Sunday's 2k and I think this confirms that I wasn't. Very similar pace to the 60' I did a few weeks ago, so in that context a bit disappointing, but I really should stop being a malcontent! Four pbs in four weeks is pretty tidy, and I'll be going some to do that next year ( clearly I'm just approaching my athletic peak at 51).
The TdS is very hard to train for during February itself. Think I need a plan for next year.
Four PBs in four weeks is really good Max, and don't bet against yourself next year. I won't.
That last 2k is knee deep in excuses, but your pride won't listen.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Well done again Max, 4 PB's is really big!max_ratcliffe wrote: ↑February 24th, 2022, 8:36 amLast hurrah for the TdS this year.
42:01.3 10,000m 2:06.0 175 901 33 178
8:18.0 2,000m 2:04.5 181 924 33 174
8:22.6 4,000m 2:05.6 176 907 33 176
8:30.0 6,000m 2:07.5 169 881 33 178
8:32.8 8,000m 2:08.2 166 871 32 179
8:17.8 10,000m 2:04.4 182 924 36 187
Absolute purgatory, but a 7s PB nevertheless.
Heart rate tells the story really. It shot up to high 140s in the warm up but I put that down to nerves. Then the first 2k felt pretty good and I was pretty confident sub 41:30 was on the cards... but it seemed a very very long way after that.
Tbh I wasn't sure that I was 100% recovered from Sunday's 2k and I think this confirms that I wasn't. Very similar pace to the 60' I did a few weeks ago, so in that context a bit disappointing, but I really should stop being a malcontent! Four pbs in four weeks is pretty tidy, and I'll be going some to do that next year ( clearly I'm just approaching my athletic peak at 51).
The TdS is very hard to train for during February itself. Think I need a plan for next year.
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LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
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congrats Max! Great effort all round
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36 strokes per minute in the last split? Wow... that's really fighting for it. Great push!max_ratcliffe wrote: ↑February 24th, 2022, 8:36 amLast hurrah for the TdS this year.
42:01.3 10,000m 2:06.0 175 901 33 178
8:18.0 2,000m 2:04.5 181 924 33 174
8:22.6 4,000m 2:05.6 176 907 33 176
8:30.0 6,000m 2:07.5 169 881 33 178
8:32.8 8,000m 2:08.2 166 871 32 179
8:17.8 10,000m 2:04.4 182 924 36 187
Absolute purgatory, but a 7s PB nevertheless.
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Sounds like you'll blow past this pb in the near future, if coming in a bit fresher. Never be content: keep fighting to be stronger!

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Last leg of the Tour De Skierg...10k
PB -56.9s
. Really didn't think I could get that close to 2:00 splits so pretty chuffed with this one. First 50s PB 
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Target was 2:01 best case, 2:02 still decent or 2:03 just PB. Went off hard and just tried to find some rhythm and pulled hard for the first 200m of each 2k.
40:08.7 10,000m 2:00.4 39
7:58.1 2,000m 1:59.5 38
8:00.3 4,000m 2:00.0 39
8:02.7 6,000m 2:00.6 39
8:06.4 8,000m 2:01.6 39
8:01.2 10,000m 2:00.3 41
It's been a great challenge, especially with Max to bounce off
Target was 2:01 best case, 2:02 still decent or 2:03 just PB. Went off hard and just tried to find some rhythm and pulled hard for the first 200m of each 2k.
40:08.7 10,000m 2:00.4 39
7:58.1 2,000m 1:59.5 38
8:00.3 4,000m 2:00.0 39
8:02.7 6,000m 2:00.6 39
8:06.4 8,000m 2:01.6 39
8:01.2 10,000m 2:00.3 41
It's been a great challenge, especially with Max to bounce off
6'2" 52yo
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)
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Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)
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Another big PBwinniewinser wrote: ↑February 25th, 2022, 2:28 pmLast leg of the Tour De Skierg...10kPB -56.9s
. Really didn't think I could get that close to 2:00 splits so pretty chuffed with this one. First 50s PB
.
Target was 2:01 best case, 2:02 still decent or 2:03 just PB. Went off hard and just tried to find some rhythm and pulled hard for the first 200m of each 2k.
40:08.7 10,000m 2:00.4 39
7:58.1 2,000m 1:59.5 38
8:00.3 4,000m 2:00.0 39
8:02.7 6,000m 2:00.6 39
8:06.4 8,000m 2:01.6 39
8:01.2 10,000m 2:00.3 41
It's been a great challenge, especially with Max to bounce off![]()
Good stuff
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Row 2k 6:58.2 5k 18:43.8
Ski 5k 18:49.1 60mins 15105mtrs HM 1:23:59.6
Row 2k 6:58.2 5k 18:43.8
Ski 5k 18:49.1 60mins 15105mtrs HM 1:23:59.6
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Helluva improvement Alwinniewinser wrote: ↑February 25th, 2022, 2:28 pmLast leg of the Tour De Skierg...10kPB -56.9s
. Really didn't think I could get that close to 2:00 splits so pretty chuffed with this one. First 50s PB
.
Target was 2:01 best case, 2:02 still decent or 2:03 just PB. Went off hard and just tried to find some rhythm and pulled hard for the first 200m of each 2k.
40:08.7 10,000m 2:00.4 39
7:58.1 2,000m 1:59.5 38
8:00.3 4,000m 2:00.0 39
8:02.7 6,000m 2:00.6 39
8:06.4 8,000m 2:01.6 39
8:01.2 10,000m 2:00.3 41
It's been a great challenge, especially with Max to bounce off![]()
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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Spinal wrote: ↑February 24th, 2022, 8:48 amGoing again so soon after the 2k TT was bound to be tough, especially considering the slog of a 10k. That last split 2:04.4 displayed guts, congrats on the new PB!!max_ratcliffe wrote: ↑February 24th, 2022, 8:36 amLast hurrah for the TdS this year.
42:01.3 10,000m 2:06.0 175 901 33 178
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winniewinser wrote: ↑February 24th, 2022, 9:26 am<>
Congrats Ski Buddy......a PB is nothing to be sniffed at and 4 in 4 weeks is great going. Well done for keeping this going and getting the PB![]()
I agree that the 2km takes a lot from you....certainly hits you hard for a number of days. My last ski was horrible and felt rough so clearly similar effects. Not sure when I will do mine.....will see how I feel post a warmup and then chuck myself into it.
Dangerscouse wrote: ↑February 24th, 2022, 11:44 am<>
Never stop being a malcontent, as I'll feel obliged to change too.
Four PBs in four weeks is really good Max, and don't bet against yourself next year. I won't.
That last 2k is knee deep in excuses, but your pride won't listen.
Thanks all,edward.jamer wrote: ↑February 25th, 2022, 8:13 am<>
36 strokes per minute in the last split? Wow... that's really fighting for it. Great push!
Sounds like you'll blow past this pb in the near future, if coming in a bit fresher. Never be content: keep fighting to be stronger!![]()
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The faster last 2k owed a lot to going all out for the last 40s or so when I finally felt confident that I wouldn't HD. Actually saw 1:44 on the PM in the last few strokes - suggests that putting the hammer down with 250 to go instead might have got me under 42'. Plan to focus on the rower for a few months now, with the skierg becoming the priority again in September.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
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Ooh... this is really very good. I thought you'd probably PB, but this improvement is really going some. The high rate is probably a really good way of using your rowing fitness. I did mine at 33, so quite a different way of going about it.winniewinser wrote: ↑February 25th, 2022, 2:28 pmLast leg of the Tour De Skierg...10kPB -56.9s
. Really didn't think I could get that close to 2:00 splits so pretty chuffed with this one. First 50s PB
.
Target was 2:01 best case, 2:02 still decent or 2:03 just PB. Went off hard and just tried to find some rhythm and pulled hard for the first 200m of each 2k.
40:08.7 10,000m 2:00.4 39
7:58.1 2,000m 1:59.5 38
8:00.3 4,000m 2:00.0 39
8:02.7 6,000m 2:00.6 39
8:06.4 8,000m 2:01.6 39
8:01.2 10,000m 2:00.3 41
It's been a great challenge, especially with Max to bounce off![]()
I thought I'd probably beat you on the 500, and be close on the 2k. I also thought you'd beat me fairly comfortably on the 5k and 10k, but you completely left me in the dust on this one, and I think this is the strongest of your four pieces.
Not sure I will tolerate you beating me on all four next year...
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
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Thx
Cheers Stu
Thx Maxmax_ratcliffe wrote: ↑February 25th, 2022, 8:04 pmOoh... this is really very good. I thought you'd probably PB, but this improvement is really going some. The high rate is probably a really good way of using your rowing fitness. I did mine at 33, so quite a different way of going about it.
I thought I'd probably beat you on the 500, and be close on the 2k. I also thought you'd beat me fairly comfortably on the 5k and 10k, but you completely left me in the dust on this one, and I think this is the strongest of your four pieces.
Not sure I will tolerate you beating me on all four next year...
Look forward to trying some of the other distances now before reverting to the rower a bit more.
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Great PB, and great TdS too!winniewinser wrote: ↑February 25th, 2022, 2:28 pmLast leg of the Tour De Skierg...10kPB -56.9s
. Really didn't think I could get that close to 2:00 splits so pretty chuffed with this one. First 50s PB
.
Target was 2:01 best case, 2:02 still decent or 2:03 just PB. Went off hard and just tried to find some rhythm and pulled hard for the first 200m of each 2k.
40:08.7 10,000m 2:00.4 39
7:58.1 2,000m 1:59.5 38
8:00.3 4,000m 2:00.0 39
8:02.7 6,000m 2:00.6 39
8:06.4 8,000m 2:01.6 39
8:01.2 10,000m 2:00.3 41
It's been a great challenge, especially with Max to bounce off![]()
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42
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10k PB, 39:44.4, 1:59.2/500.
Nice to nail a workout after having to cut short both interval sessions this week (slightly too ambitious on both).
Managed to cut 14 seconds off my prior 2020 PB.
43m 70kg 178cm. 500m: 1:38.8 (2022) - 2k: 7:16.6 (2019) - 5k: 19:17.4 (2022) - 10k: 39:44.4 (2022)
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Well done. 14 seconds is a great improvement
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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