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Heart monitor display

Post by pagomichaelh » October 22nd, 2021, 12:23 pm

Hi,
I'm looking for a heart monitor and display, that doesn't require a smart phone, to use on the water rowing. I don't want to be connected, store information, take pictures, open cans, use the scissors, saw, corkscrew, etc., just the plain heart rate.

Does such an animal exist?
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Re: Heart monitor display

Post by Nomath » October 22nd, 2021, 3:24 pm

Have a look at the Polar M460 with the H10 chest strap. The M460 displays and stores your HR every second, just as the geographic position (using GPS), over-the-ground speed and elevation. Via Polar Flow software you can review your race on a PC.
I use the M460+H10 as a HR-monitor for indoor rowing next to the PM5.

The M460 unit comes with a detachable mount. See if you can mount it at a spot where you can watch it continuously (which is probably a problem of the Polar HR wrist watches ).

It was designed as a bicycle computer, but I don't believe that this compromises its use for rowing. On-the-water rowing would be a nice accuracy check for the elevation data !

A nice feature of the M460 is that it can also do fitness tests, such as Heart Rate Variabily.

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Re: Heart monitor display

Post by Tsnor » October 22nd, 2021, 8:34 pm

this does look good ---> M460+H10
Nomath wrote:
October 22nd, 2021, 3:24 pm
Have a look at the Polar M460 with the H10 chest strap.
Alternative is buy an H10 belt (highly recommended) and get a StrokeCoach. It'll give you heart rate from the belt and stroke rate. Sometimes stroke rate is really nice to have OTW. https://nksports.com/strokecoach-with-s ... 6EQAvD_BwE They also have GPS equipped models, but the price gets a bit crazy.

If you have an older android phone or tablet you can run an app like BoatCoach https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... n_US&gl=US you can get your stroke rate from inertial sensors and heart rate from your belt. Millions of "bike mount for android phones" are out there that can be attached to your foot stretchers, waterproof, etc. Battery life will not be as good as either the M460 or the strokecoach, but if you have the phone anyway... Just pull your old SIM out before you power up and use wifi to download ap, etc.

final thought. I use the H10's ability to record heart rate without a phone all the time OTW. You can't see the data live, instead you can use the data after the workout to see how hard you were rowing. H10 also has TWO bluetooth connections which if you erg will simplify your life. One goes to the PM5 the other goes whereever you want it (I use polar flow to see real time trends in HR a bit easer than the PM5 display).

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Re: Heart monitor display

Post by Tsnor » October 22nd, 2021, 8:57 pm

... at the low end you can also just buy an old school watch plus belt combo, and mount the watch somewhere. Less nice than the bike computer, strokecoach or an AP. Maybe mount the watch on your foot stretcher, that where people mount their strokecoach.

Here are some examples picked at random from google. I have no idea if they work. Display might be too small to see while rowing. Using the data later is not as easy as the other solutions.

https://nordicgrizzly.com/product/water ... g-cycling/

https://www.amazon.com/Running-Digital- ... 16546&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C5BZ97G/re ... s9dHJ1ZQ==

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Re: Heart monitor display

Post by pagomichaelh » October 23rd, 2021, 11:21 am

Tsnor wrote:
October 22nd, 2021, 8:57 pm
... at the low end you can also just buy an old school watch plus belt combo, and mount the watch somewhere. Less nice than the bike computer, strokecoach or an AP. Maybe mount the watch on your foot stretcher, that where people mount their strokecoach.

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Perfect, thanks so much! Price in the right range as well. I'm using a Scullr, which is good, but doesn't show my heart rate, this is a nice, simple add on.
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Re: Heart monitor display

Post by pagomichaelh » November 23rd, 2021, 5:58 pm

This works well.

I put the watch on the oar just outboard of the grip (handle), oriented such that the face is visible at the catch. Only takes a brief eye flick from the horizon.
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Re: Heart monitor display

Post by pagomichaelh » December 12th, 2022, 1:40 pm

Still having monitor 'issues'.

I've tried three different brands of HR monitors, and four different receivers (OTW and erg), battery changes, and I see the same issues - HR appears 'reasonable', then, after around 45 minutes, they'll show my HR dropping into the 'you have to be kidding range'. After another 10-15 minutes, the rate goes back up to 'reasonable' given how I'm rowing.

For data points, waking rate about 70, pre-exercise rate about 95, max HR is around 182 (think hummingbird). I've done cardio type exercise most of my life. After the 45-55 minute weirdness, I can finish up the last of a two hour session at a HR of 146, then I'll knock out 50-80 push-ups. I'm not in any sort of distress unless I push up to around 165 for a protracted period of time (>15 minutes)

Belt is on bare skin. Living in a tropical rain forest, moisture (sweat) on the belt isn't a problem.

The most accurate seems to be the Garmin 78sc GPS (I have a route through the lagoon mapped out to avoid the skinny spots) with a Tickr monitor. The least accurate was the chest strap/watch combo

Ideas?
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