Rugby comparison is the thief of joy
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Rugby comparison is the thief of joy
If you're interested in rugby, especially the 2003 vintage, there's a really good interview here with Will Greenwood and Mike Tindall.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/02RUF9 ... =copy-link
They very briefly discuss rowing around the hour mark.
Greenwood 2k: 6.42, 1': 359m
Tindall 1' 377m.
377m is really going some.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/02RUF9 ... =copy-link
They very briefly discuss rowing around the hour mark.
Greenwood 2k: 6.42, 1': 359m
Tindall 1' 377m.
377m is really going some.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
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Re: Rugby comparison is the thief of joy
thanks for the share!
Tindall is a huge and very powerful man, so it's not a surprise that he can sprint on the erg. Greenwood also a very nice length and weight
Ben that he refers to is Ben Fennell who was Rosslyn Park during my era and is also a very strong man
(I was there that day in 2003! one of my very best ever sports viewing memories)
Tindall is a huge and very powerful man, so it's not a surprise that he can sprint on the erg. Greenwood also a very nice length and weight
Ben that he refers to is Ben Fennell who was Rosslyn Park during my era and is also a very strong man
(I was there that day in 2003! one of my very best ever sports viewing memories)
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took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
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Re: Rugby comparison is the thief of joy
Gareth Archer did BIRC 2009
Won men’s open 5.51 and beat the GB squad
Great achievement,great engine
Won men’s open 5.51 and beat the GB squad
Great achievement,great engine
60 Age Group PBs - 100 14 . 1 WR,1 min 387 m WR , 500 1.21.8 = WR
50 Age Group PBs 2000m 6.24
50 Age Group PBs 2000m 6.24
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Re: Rugby comparison is the thief of joy
5.51 is serious, but beating the GB squad is ridiculous.cannondalerugby5 wrote: ↑November 18th, 2021, 5:50 pmGareth Archer did BIRC 2009
Won men’s open 5.51 and beat the GB squad
Great achievement,great engine
I'm a bit surprised there aren't more ex- internationals smashing it on the erg. Strength, power, stamina and often height too.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
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Re: Rugby comparison is the thief of joy
The late, great Andy Ripley held the 50+ WR for many years, and toured with the B & I Lions.
The guy currently playing who I would most like to see on an erg is Eben Etzebeth - massive power, endurance and 2.03m tall to boot!!
He is also very quick for a man of his size.
Paul G
The guy currently playing who I would most like to see on an erg is Eben Etzebeth - massive power, endurance and 2.03m tall to boot!!
He is also very quick for a man of his size.
Paul G
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100m - 15.0, 2k - 6:46.7, 5k - 17:37.2
HM - 1:19:21.5, FM - 2:47:40
200km - 18:28:30 24hr - 251621m
100m - 15.0, 2k - 6:46.7, 5k - 17:37.2
HM - 1:19:21.5, FM - 2:47:40
200km - 18:28:30 24hr - 251621m
Re: Rugby comparison is the thief of joy
Etzebeth v Itoje would be interesting.gouldilocks wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 6:09 amThe late, great Andy Ripley held the 50+ WR for many years, and toured with the B & I Lions.
The guy currently playing who I would most like to see on an erg is Eben Etzebeth - massive power, endurance and 2.03m tall to boot!!
He is also very quick for a man of his size.
Paul G
Not sure if the England squad still use Ergs. 20 odd years ago I was impressed with Martin Johnson’s 6:19 2k but players now who have been professional all their careers have raised the bar.
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PBs from 2020 - 100m 15.7s - 1min 355m - 500m 1:28.4 - 1k 3:10.6 - 2k 6:31.6 - 5k 17:34.9 - 6k 20:57.5 - 30min @ 20SPM 8,336m - 10k 36:28.0 - 1 hour 16,094m - HM 1:18:51.7
2021 - 5k 17:26 - FM 2:53:37.0
PBs from 2020 - 100m 15.7s - 1min 355m - 500m 1:28.4 - 1k 3:10.6 - 2k 6:31.6 - 5k 17:34.9 - 6k 20:57.5 - 30min @ 20SPM 8,336m - 10k 36:28.0 - 1 hour 16,094m - HM 1:18:51.7
2021 - 5k 17:26 - FM 2:53:37.0
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Re: Rugby comparison is the thief of joy
How about Sam Whitelock vs Etzebeth?Tony Cook wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 8:33 amEtzebeth v Itoje would be interesting.gouldilocks wrote: ↑November 19th, 2021, 6:09 amThe late, great Andy Ripley held the 50+ WR for many years, and toured with the B & I Lions.
The guy currently playing who I would most like to see on an erg is Eben Etzebeth - massive power, endurance and 2.03m tall to boot!!
He is also very quick for a man of his size.
Paul G
Not sure if the England squad still use Ergs. 20 odd years ago I was impressed with Martin Johnson’s 6:19 2k but players now who have been professional all their careers have raised the bar.
Johnson's 2k isn't too shabby but I wonder what Richard Hill could do at his peak. From a more recent generation of Englishmen, how about Tom Croft? An absolute freak of an athlete.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
Re: Rugby comparison is the thief of joy
Rugby, US football, rowing, and Olympic bobsled all need the same burst speed, mass, strength. Google says the Australian and Canadian bobsled teams had Rugby players..
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/w ... 349164002/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/w ... 349164002/
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Re: Rugby comparison is the thief of joy
From my own personal experience, rowing a 6.20 2k is much harder than playing international rugby.
1st 10 secs is ok, the last 10 secs is ok, its the 6 min in the middle that is incomparable.
Never would you be on your limit for a full 6 mins in a rugby game.
There are many opportunities to drop the intensity, there are no opportunities on the ergo till the pm states 0 meters
Andy Ripley,Roger Uttley we both great rowers from the amateur era, however I believe Gareths effort would take some beating!
1st 10 secs is ok, the last 10 secs is ok, its the 6 min in the middle that is incomparable.
Never would you be on your limit for a full 6 mins in a rugby game.
There are many opportunities to drop the intensity, there are no opportunities on the ergo till the pm states 0 meters
Andy Ripley,Roger Uttley we both great rowers from the amateur era, however I believe Gareths effort would take some beating!
60 Age Group PBs - 100 14 . 1 WR,1 min 387 m WR , 500 1.21.8 = WR
50 Age Group PBs 2000m 6.24
50 Age Group PBs 2000m 6.24