Thanks Paul - honoured to be marked in one of your now rare posts - you're missed on here. Hope all going well with you. Do I detect an unreported PB with that 190 lift in your sig? Looking very strong!
New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Mike - 67 HWT 183
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thanks for the input and that makes sense.MPx wrote: ↑July 5th, 2021, 3:14 amFWIW in my view 1k is way too far to mess with drag factor - I think you should do it at whatever you train at and do 2, 5 and 10k TTs. Personally I do increase slightly for a 500, more for 1min, and use max for 100. Such changes will affect people in different ways, but in my case/technique the reality is I can get a lower low pull on max drag than I can on anything less. Low pull is only really relevant over the extreme sprints. Congrats on the 3:12...aussie nick wrote: ↑July 4th, 2021, 8:01 pm
I'm still learning, so I'll try both. same thing with drag factor...I'm not entirely sure whether I should be using a higher drag than I do (111 for the last 1k), but it just feels right at that level?
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took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
111 is very low for a 1k, below 2k using more drag is almost always usefull. Speed gets a lot faster and more drag helps to keep a good stroke, you don’t want it to get to fast, more drag gives more time during the drive fase.aussie nick wrote: ↑July 5th, 2021, 7:07 pmthanks for the input and that makes sense.MPx wrote: ↑July 5th, 2021, 3:14 amFWIW in my view 1k is way too far to mess with drag factor - I think you should do it at whatever you train at and do 2, 5 and 10k TTs. Personally I do increase slightly for a 500, more for 1min, and use max for 100. Such changes will affect people in different ways, but in my case/technique the reality is I can get a lower low pull on max drag than I can on anything less. Low pull is only really relevant over the extreme sprints. Congrats on the 3:12...aussie nick wrote: ↑July 4th, 2021, 8:01 pm
I'm still learning, so I'll try both. same thing with drag factor...I'm not entirely sure whether I should be using a higher drag than I do (111 for the last 1k), but it just feels right at that level?
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Congratulations to Mrs F. 4200 next.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Just saw this - another member of the sub-7 club - that is great work!
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Great score and great progression - sub 3:10 is a good goal to shoot for.aussie nick wrote: ↑July 2nd, 2021, 2:53 amnew 1k row PB - 3.12.1, an improvement of 1.4 seconds on my last PR
I've done a semi regular time trial since I started rowing seriously in Jan and the progression has gone
3.17.4 in late Jan
3.15.9 in early March
3.13.5 in early May
3.12.1 today
goal had been to get into the 3.11s and I was on target til the last 200m when my legs went rubbery, a strap came loose and I just lost my rhythm and strength.
final 200 was 1.37/500m and I fell off the pace.
Full split paces were
1.35.2
1.36.2
1.36.2
1.35.7
1.37.0
still...a PR is a PR and I'm happy with the progression. I feel like sub 3.10 is within my grasp with another few months of consistent training
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Great work and as others have said - spending time at the target pace is key. Before my most recent 1K PB I did several weeks of at least one interval session at target pace.hobbit wrote: ↑July 3rd, 2021, 4:36 pmHaving my perennial motivation problems for long slow stuff, so I thought I'd try some sprints, for a laugh. PBs were inevitable as I've never done any before .
Best of three trials: 100m 21.0, DF130, 46spm.
500m 1:56.0 DF130 46spm
100 0:22.0 1:50.0 44
200 0:22.5 1:52.5 45
300 0:23.7 1:58.5 48
400 0:24.1 2:00.5 50
500 0:23.8 1:59.0 45
So, fly and die with a vengeance. I imagine 1:54 is easily reachable with sensible energy management.
I must say these short, sharp efforts really shook me up, in a good way. I'd like to try these regularly. Any tips on good training sessions welcome.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
hobbit wrote: ↑July 3rd, 2021, 4:36 pmHaving my perennial motivation problems for long slow stuff, so I thought I'd try some sprints, for a laugh. PBs were inevitable as I've never done any before .
Best of three trials: 100m 21.0, DF130, 46spm.
500m 1:56.0 DF130 46spm
100 0:22.0 1:50.0 44
200 0:22.5 1:52.5 45
300 0:23.7 1:58.5 48
400 0:24.1 2:00.5 50
500 0:23.8 1:59.0 45
So, fly and die with a vengeance. I imagine 1:54 is easily reachable with sensible energy management.
I must say these short, sharp efforts really shook me up, in a good way. I'd like to try these regularly. Any tips on good training sessions welcome.
I missed this. Nice work Hobbit. 50spm is really going some. Although it looks like your legs must have been completely shot by then, you still managed to go quicker over the last 100, which is very gutsy indeed.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Thanks Keith, appreciate the advice that you and the regular contributors post.
Wayne Handley
Derbyshire UK
53; 6'-2"; 196lbs
2k 6:58.9 (2021)
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2k 6:58.9 (2021)
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Party a PB brag, partly a "Well Done" to those ahead of me.
I'm 52, been doing weights for a few years, got my Erg a month ago to give me some CV fitness.
First serious crack at 2k last night, aiming for sub 9 min, sneaked in at 8.58.
My HR was at 145 alarmingly soon, and topped out at 160, which - for a 52yo - felt a bit close to max.
(I'm sure I heard my grandma calling to me from with a shaft of light.)
And my legs are stiff as anything this morning.
I was initially disappointed to be in the bottom 20% for age & weight, but thinking about it for a second, I'm not.
If I'd been playing guitar a month, I wouldn't expect to be above-average right away.
I can see the standard on those rankings is very high - big respect to the forum!
If I can shave a few seconds a week off, I'll be pleased (going from 10 minutes to 9 minutes in a month isn't a sustainable rate of improvement, I fear )
Best wishes All, and watch out, Roger Odom, I'm coming for you
I'm 52, been doing weights for a few years, got my Erg a month ago to give me some CV fitness.
First serious crack at 2k last night, aiming for sub 9 min, sneaked in at 8.58.
My HR was at 145 alarmingly soon, and topped out at 160, which - for a 52yo - felt a bit close to max.
(I'm sure I heard my grandma calling to me from with a shaft of light.)
And my legs are stiff as anything this morning.
I was initially disappointed to be in the bottom 20% for age & weight, but thinking about it for a second, I'm not.
If I'd been playing guitar a month, I wouldn't expect to be above-average right away.
I can see the standard on those rankings is very high - big respect to the forum!
If I can shave a few seconds a week off, I'll be pleased (going from 10 minutes to 9 minutes in a month isn't a sustainable rate of improvement, I fear )
Best wishes All, and watch out, Roger Odom, I'm coming for you
52M 5'11 84kg. Aberystwyth, West Wales.
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thank you Keith. I do think it's there...I'm not sure what my max potential is, but the times keep dropping so we'll see how far we can get while the body holds up!
M/52/6ft/86kg
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
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congratulations butty! I'm by no means an expert (took up rowing 7 months ago seriously, although I'd done it 10 years ago as part of crossfit) and honestly, the erg is very fair - it rewards your efforts. Your times will keep dropping as you get fitter and more efficient.ant_in_wales wrote: ↑July 9th, 2021, 5:29 amParty a PB brag, partly a "Well Done" to those ahead of me.
I'm 52, been doing weights for a few years, got my Erg a month ago to give me some CV fitness.
First serious crack at 2k last night, aiming for sub 9 min, sneaked in at 8.58.
My HR was at 145 alarmingly soon, and topped out at 160, which - for a 52yo - felt a bit close to max.
(I'm sure I heard my grandma calling to me from with a shaft of light.)
And my legs are stiff as anything this morning.
I was initially disappointed to be in the bottom 20% for age & weight, but thinking about it for a second, I'm not.
If I'd been playing guitar a month, I wouldn't expect to be above-average right away.
I can see the standard on those rankings is very high - big respect to the forum!
If I can shave a few seconds a week off, I'll be pleased (going from 10 minutes to 9 minutes in a month isn't a sustainable rate of improvement, I fear )
Best wishes All, and watch out, Roger Odom, I'm coming for you
M/52/6ft/86kg
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
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stage 2 of my '3 time trials in the last 10 days of my 40s' insanity
5k row 18.28.3 at 1.50.8/500m sr 26....a 4 second PR
plan was to go out just a little slower than my PR pace time (previous PR pace 1.51.2/500) and stay there for the first 4k and then slowly ramp it up and see what I had left in the final 700...and that was pretty much how I went, albeit I didn't have much left in my lungs for a final push at all
pace splits were
1.51.2
1.51.7
1.51.5
1.50.8
1.49.0
the longer time trials really are an exercise in mental strength and how prepared you are to maintain your pace despite growing pain. I haven't yet been able to totally release any semblance of fear in the 5k and just 'go for it' in the same way that I do in the 1k
first 1500 is absolutely fine and then the pain starts.
by 2k I'm trying to meditate around my stroke and think about anything other than maintaining the pace.
all of a sudden though, it's 3.5k and just as I'm thinking I'm feeling really strong, the lungs start really heating up and contracting and I think I'm going to have an asthma attack
the chest contraction doesn't disappear but doesn't get much worse and I attempted to ramp it up with 800 to go, but I didn't have much inside me to really go balls out for more than 2 mins, so I kept turning it up slowly and then only really managed a proper acceleration at about 200 to go
very happy with the PR in by far my least favourite of the 3 'events'.
I really don't enjoy this distance at all and I would honestly 'retire' it as something to row fast, if I didn't believe that improving it is critical to improving my 2k, which is my primary goal over the coming 6 months.
5k row 18.28.3 at 1.50.8/500m sr 26....a 4 second PR
plan was to go out just a little slower than my PR pace time (previous PR pace 1.51.2/500) and stay there for the first 4k and then slowly ramp it up and see what I had left in the final 700...and that was pretty much how I went, albeit I didn't have much left in my lungs for a final push at all
pace splits were
1.51.2
1.51.7
1.51.5
1.50.8
1.49.0
the longer time trials really are an exercise in mental strength and how prepared you are to maintain your pace despite growing pain. I haven't yet been able to totally release any semblance of fear in the 5k and just 'go for it' in the same way that I do in the 1k
first 1500 is absolutely fine and then the pain starts.
by 2k I'm trying to meditate around my stroke and think about anything other than maintaining the pace.
all of a sudden though, it's 3.5k and just as I'm thinking I'm feeling really strong, the lungs start really heating up and contracting and I think I'm going to have an asthma attack
the chest contraction doesn't disappear but doesn't get much worse and I attempted to ramp it up with 800 to go, but I didn't have much inside me to really go balls out for more than 2 mins, so I kept turning it up slowly and then only really managed a proper acceleration at about 200 to go
very happy with the PR in by far my least favourite of the 3 'events'.
I really don't enjoy this distance at all and I would honestly 'retire' it as something to row fast, if I didn't believe that improving it is critical to improving my 2k, which is my primary goal over the coming 6 months.
M/52/6ft/86kg
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
took up rowing during pandemic
500m 1.26.9
1k 3.08.2
2k 6.39.7
5k 18.02.2
30min 8008m
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Well done Ant. Good to have a plan!ant_in_wales wrote: ↑July 9th, 2021, 5:29 amParty a PB brag, partly a "Well Done" to those ahead of me.
I'm 52, been doing weights for a few years, got my Erg a month ago to give me some CV fitness.
First serious crack at 2k last night, aiming for sub 9 min, sneaked in at 8.58.
My HR was at 145 alarmingly soon, and topped out at 160, which - for a 52yo - felt a bit close to max.
(I'm sure I heard my grandma calling to me from with a shaft of light.)
And my legs are stiff as anything this morning.
I was initially disappointed to be in the bottom 20% for age & weight, but thinking about it for a second, I'm not.
If I'd been playing guitar a month, I wouldn't expect to be above-average right away.
I can see the standard on those rankings is very high - big respect to the forum!
If I can shave a few seconds a week off, I'll be pleased (going from 10 minutes to 9 minutes in a month isn't a sustainable rate of improvement, I fear )
Best wishes All, and watch out, Roger Odom, I'm coming for you
Of course it’s up to you and it is tempting to keep trying to go faster for the same distance. I gently suggest however not testing yourself as often as every week. Follow a plan, build your technique, get a stronger stroke, improve your CV fitness (2k TT is 80% aerobic) and the likelihood is you will knock a pleasing amount off your time after 6 weeks. Less painful and stressful on the body than knocking a few seconds of once or twice a week, and probably plateauing fairly soon.
Born 1963 6' 5" 100Kg
PBs from 2020 - 100m 15.7s - 1min 355m - 500m 1:28.4 - 1k 3:10.6 - 2k 6:31.6 - 5k 17:34.9 - 6k 20:57.5 - 30min @ 20SPM 8,336m - 10k 36:28.0 - 1 hour 16,094m - HM 1:18:51.7
2021 - 5k 17:26 - FM 2:53:37.0
PBs from 2020 - 100m 15.7s - 1min 355m - 500m 1:28.4 - 1k 3:10.6 - 2k 6:31.6 - 5k 17:34.9 - 6k 20:57.5 - 30min @ 20SPM 8,336m - 10k 36:28.0 - 1 hour 16,094m - HM 1:18:51.7
2021 - 5k 17:26 - FM 2:53:37.0
Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!
Good work - you will continue to see some good "newbie" gains for a while. Just keep putting in the time/meters and work on form.ant_in_wales wrote: ↑July 9th, 2021, 5:29 amParty a PB brag, partly a "Well Done" to those ahead of me.
I'm 52, been doing weights for a few years, got my Erg a month ago to give me some CV fitness.
First serious crack at 2k last night, aiming for sub 9 min, sneaked in at 8.58.
My HR was at 145 alarmingly soon, and topped out at 160, which - for a 52yo - felt a bit close to max.
(I'm sure I heard my grandma calling to me from with a shaft of light.)
And my legs are stiff as anything this morning.
I was initially disappointed to be in the bottom 20% for age & weight, but thinking about it for a second, I'm not.
If I'd been playing guitar a month, I wouldn't expect to be above-average right away.
I can see the standard on those rankings is very high - big respect to the forum!
If I can shave a few seconds a week off, I'll be pleased (going from 10 minutes to 9 minutes in a month isn't a sustainable rate of improvement, I fear )
Best wishes All, and watch out, Roger Odom, I'm coming for you
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41