New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » June 21st, 2021, 10:03 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
June 20th, 2021, 9:14 am
Well, despite my signature claims that it was NGTFH, the summer solstice challenge spurred me on to try a SkiErg HM.

1:32:23.7 21,097m 2:11.3 154 831 33

8:46.5 2,000m 2:11.6 153 828 31
8:47.1 4,000m 2:11.7 153 826 31
8:46.5 6,000m 2:11.6 153 828 32
8:46.6 8,000m 2:11.6 153 827 33
8:46.7 10,000m 2:11.6 153 827 33
8:46.6 12,000m 2:11.6 153 827 32
8:46.9 14,000m 2:11.7 153 827 35
8:46.5 16,000m 2:11.6 153 828 35
8:45.7 18,000m 2:11.4 154 830 35
8:45.2 20,000m 2:11.3 155 832 36
4:39.5 21,097m 2:07.3 169 882 39

It was fairly comfortable apart from the last four km when my left foot got pins and needles and I had to stamp a couple of times to get the feeling back (must have looked way cool). Faster than my best 60' piece too, although I've never done a 60' TT.

I guess "fairly comfortable" means I wasn't going hard enough, but I think it's going to hurt in the morning in any case.
Awesome work especially for the Ski-Erg. There has been a lot more Ski-erg results on here lately and they always impress me as I find that machine hard...I haven't used it much and I sort of avoid it.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » June 21st, 2021, 11:34 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 8:35 am
Thanks all,
Dangerscouse wrote:
June 20th, 2021, 11:40 am
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NGTFH to IDFH, well done Max..and yes, fairly comfortable isn't acceptable.
I thought yesterday that this would be my one and only HM on the SkiErg, but I'm now thinking that I should have gone faster. Sub 1:30 isn't possible yet, but I think a split less would be achievable.
Dino wrote:
June 20th, 2021, 2:57 pm
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Very well done Max. i cant imagine an hour and half on the Skierg!
Was this at the gym? I can just imagine someone else thinking "i'll nip on the skierg when that chap has finished...." :lol:
Haha, from erg-stalking the PM5, almost everyone else uses it for about a minute. There's a gym challenge for the fastest to 10cals (somebody's done it in 13.8s, which is really going some), but nobody apart from me has ever gone further than 2k. I had actually thought about it, so I started at about 8:40pm - only one other person in the gym, so hopefully it was okay.
MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 20th, 2021, 3:35 pm
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Well done Max, that's a looong time on the skierg!
When is the next sprint TT? You must be getting to the end of your latest mesocycle?
iangallagher wrote:
June 20th, 2021, 7:19 pm
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well done Max. i shudder thinking about spending that long on the ski! impressive stuff
Well you wouldn't spend as long, unless you were doing 25k! :) But yeah, it did seem a long time, especially when the pins and needles struck.
All my plans got crushed, catched a cold, than the covid jab and the cold once more which cost me almost 3 weeks of training, so I started my endurance block a few days ago with strength training on maintenance. Strength is still pretty decent, so I hope I can do a good 500 when I'm feeling for it 🙂
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » June 21st, 2021, 11:44 am

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All my plans got crushed, catched a cold, than the covid jab and the cold once more which cost me almost 3 weeks of training, so I started my endurance block a few days ago with strength training on maintenance. Strength is still pretty decent, so I hope I can do a good 500 when I'm feeling for it 🙂
[/quote]

Wondered why you haven't been posting the typical amazing power sessions....hope doing better and ready to get back at it. I get my 2nd COVID jab tomorrow, hoping I have no side effects.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » June 21st, 2021, 7:21 pm

iangallagher wrote:
June 20th, 2021, 10:27 pm
New 5km PB on the Skierg today. Beat the old one by 17 seconds which was a bit of a surprise.

Decided to not purposely try and rate over 40 which ive been consciously trying to do recently - instead just focus on pace and let rate come naturally.

Felt really comfortable so went for it in the last km when it looked like sub 17.30 was on.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
17:28.7 5,000m 1:44.8 303 1344 39
3:30.8 1,000m 1:45.4 299 1328 38
3:31.4 2,000m 1:45.7 296 1320 39
3:31.7 3,000m 1:45.8 295 1315 39
3:30.6 4,000m 1:45.3 300 1331 40
3:24.1 5,000m 1:42.0 329 1433 42
Blisteringly quick. Sub-7 pace but over 5k is very impressive and this is at a serious power per stroke (pole/pull?) too.

I wonder how much this was influenced by the very painful lactate (H+ ions) bath you gave yourself last week. I don't understand the specificity but I've definitely seen improvements to my distance pieces from doing short (I'd hesitate to call them fast :roll: ) sprint work.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by iangallagher » June 21st, 2021, 8:06 pm

max_ratcliffe wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 7:21 pm
iangallagher wrote:
June 20th, 2021, 10:27 pm
New 5km PB on the Skierg today. Beat the old one by 17 seconds which was a bit of a surprise.

Decided to not purposely try and rate over 40 which ive been consciously trying to do recently - instead just focus on pace and let rate come naturally.

Felt really comfortable so went for it in the last km when it looked like sub 17.30 was on.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
17:28.7 5,000m 1:44.8 303 1344 39
3:30.8 1,000m 1:45.4 299 1328 38
3:31.4 2,000m 1:45.7 296 1320 39
3:31.7 3,000m 1:45.8 295 1315 39
3:30.6 4,000m 1:45.3 300 1331 40
3:24.1 5,000m 1:42.0 329 1433 42
Blisteringly quick. Sub-7 pace but over 5k is very impressive and this is at a serious power per stroke (pole/pull?) too.

I wonder how much this was influenced by the very painful lactate (H+ ions) bath you gave yourself last week. I don't understand the specificity but I've definitely seen improvements to my distance pieces from doing short (I'd hesitate to call them fast :roll: ) sprint work.
thanks Max. i was thinking the same thing yesterday - i guess there has to be a link of some sort. I dont really understand the specificity either. This was a 100% easier than that training session though which then makes the target pace for this seem quite manageable
182cm; 89kg; 1km = 2.57.5; 2km = 6.19; 4mins = 1296; 5km = 16.49; 6km = 20.24; 30mins = 8605; 10km= 35.31; 60 minutes = 16205 HM = 1:18.50
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by iangallagher » June 21st, 2021, 8:19 pm

hjs wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 3:49 am
iangallagher wrote:
June 20th, 2021, 10:27 pm
New 5km PB on the Skierg today. Beat the old one by 17 seconds which was a bit of a surprise.

Decided to not purposely try and rate over 40 which ive been consciously trying to do recently - instead just focus on pace and let rate come naturally.

Felt really comfortable so went for it in the last km when it looked like sub 17.30 was on.

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
17:28.7 5,000m 1:44.8 303 1344 39
3:30.8 1,000m 1:45.4 299 1328 38
3:31.4 2,000m 1:45.7 296 1320 39
3:31.7 3,000m 1:45.8 295 1315 39
3:30.6 4,000m 1:45.3 300 1331 40
3:24.1 5,000m 1:42.0 329 1433 42
Very nice. Congrats. Pacing looks spot on. Still supriced you need so little spm, given your rowing rate. But do what works!
thanks mate. Yeah i purposely put the brakes on during the first km and that had a positive impact on the rest of the distance
182cm; 89kg; 1km = 2.57.5; 2km = 6.19; 4mins = 1296; 5km = 16.49; 6km = 20.24; 30mins = 8605; 10km= 35.31; 60 minutes = 16205 HM = 1:18.50
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by iangallagher » June 21st, 2021, 11:41 pm

As its quite cool here in Aus i thought id take advantage and do a half marathon. No real target in mind - just to complete it

Felt pretty comfortable. Last 8km was a bit of grind. Had a funny snap with about 12km to go when i almost stopped for no reason but that then passed and i felt ok again. think this betters my last attempt by a few minutes

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:18:50.4 21,097m 1:52.1 248 1154 25 162
11:04.3 3,000m 1:50.7 258 1187 25 152
11:07.6 6,000m 1:51.2 254 1174 25 159
11:14.0 9,000m 1:52.3 247 1149 26 157
11:16.8 12,000m 1:52.8 244 1139 26 163
11:17.2 15,000m 1:52.8 243 1137 26 167
11:17.7 18,000m 1:52.9 243 1135 26 169
11:12.1 21,000m 1:52.0 249 1156 27 171
0:20.7 21,097m 1:46.7 288 1291 29 171
182cm; 89kg; 1km = 2.57.5; 2km = 6.19; 4mins = 1296; 5km = 16.49; 6km = 20.24; 30mins = 8605; 10km= 35.31; 60 minutes = 16205 HM = 1:18.50
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » June 22nd, 2021, 2:53 am

KeithT wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 11:44 am
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All my plans got crushed, catched a cold, than the covid jab and the cold once more which cost me almost 3 weeks of training, so I started my endurance block a few days ago with strength training on maintenance. Strength is still pretty decent, so I hope I can do a good 500 when I'm feeling for it 🙂
[/quote]

Wondered why you haven't been posting the typical amazing power sessions....hope doing better and ready to get back at it. I get my 2nd COVID jab tomorrow, hoping I have no side effects.
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Yeah, it was really frustrating as I knew I was in very good shape for a proper 500 TT. On the other hand, I recognized that my erg fitness suffered a good bit during this strength block, so propably I'll get an even better result after the coming base endurance block with strength on maintenance (2 whole body sessions with 4 heavy sets per week for back, legs, chest and shoulders).
How is your 2k prep going?
Good luck with the jab, most people hardly have any side effects, hope you're one of them :)
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » June 22nd, 2021, 9:27 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 22nd, 2021, 2:53 am
KeithT wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 11:44 am
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All my plans got crushed, catched a cold, than the covid jab and the cold once more which cost me almost 3 weeks of training, so I started my endurance block a few days ago with strength training on maintenance. Strength is still pretty decent, so I hope I can do a good 500 when I'm feeling for it 🙂
Wondered why you haven't been posting the typical amazing power sessions....hope doing better and ready to get back at it. I get my 2nd COVID jab tomorrow, hoping I have no side effects.
[/quote]
Yeah, it was really frustrating as I knew I was in very good shape for a proper 500 TT. On the other hand, I recognized that my erg fitness suffered a good bit during this strength block, so propably I'll get an even better result after the coming base endurance block with strength on maintenance (2 whole body sessions with 4 heavy sets per week for back, legs, chest and shoulders).
How is your 2k prep going?
Good luck with the jab, most people hardly have any side effects, hope you're one of them :)
[/quote]

2K prep was going well until a bad workout last week and in general have felt sluggish on the ERG but still plan to do a 2K very soon even if it's not the best so I know where I am.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by flatbread » June 22nd, 2021, 10:09 am

back on the static and got a 2k PR

6:56.5 2,000m 1:44.1 310 1366 33 133
1:43.6 500m 1:43.6 315 1383 34 89
1:45.3 1,000m 1:45.3 300 1331 32 147
1:44.5 1,500m 1:44.5 307 1355 32 149
1:43.2 2,000m 1:43.2 318 1395 33 149
55, 1m84, 76kg

RHR 40, MHR 165

10k 37:56, 5k 17:52, 2k 6:52 60' 15720m

2021 power bests on bike: 405w 5', 370w 20', 350w 60'

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » June 22nd, 2021, 10:14 am

flatbread wrote:
June 22nd, 2021, 10:09 am
back on the static and got a 2k PR

6:56.5 2,000m 1:44.1 310 1366 33 133
1:43.6 500m 1:43.6 315 1383 34 89
1:45.3 1,000m 1:45.3 300 1331 32 147
1:44.5 1,500m 1:44.5 307 1355 32 149
1:43.2 2,000m 1:43.2 318 1395 33 149
Awesome! Had you broke 7 minutes before?
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by flatbread » June 22nd, 2021, 10:15 am

KeithT wrote:
June 22nd, 2021, 10:14 am
flatbread wrote:
June 22nd, 2021, 10:09 am
back on the static and got a 2k PR

6:56.5 2,000m 1:44.1 310 1366 33 133
1:43.6 500m 1:43.6 315 1383 34 89
1:45.3 1,000m 1:45.3 300 1331 32 147
1:44.5 1,500m 1:44.5 307 1355 32 149
1:43.2 2,000m 1:43.2 318 1395 33 149
Awesome! Had you broke 7 minutes before?
nope. my previous was 7:00 in Dec.
55, 1m84, 76kg

RHR 40, MHR 165

10k 37:56, 5k 17:52, 2k 6:52 60' 15720m

2021 power bests on bike: 405w 5', 370w 20', 350w 60'

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » June 22nd, 2021, 10:21 am

iangallagher wrote:
June 21st, 2021, 11:41 pm
As its quite cool here in Aus i thought id take advantage and do a half marathon. No real target in mind - just to complete it

Felt pretty comfortable. Last 8km was a bit of grind. Had a funny snap with about 12km to go when i almost stopped for no reason but that then passed and i felt ok again. think this betters my last attempt by a few minutes

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:18:50.4 21,097m 1:52.1 248 1154 25 162
11:04.3 3,000m 1:50.7 258 1187 25 152
11:07.6 6,000m 1:51.2 254 1174 25 159
11:14.0 9,000m 1:52.3 247 1149 26 157
11:16.8 12,000m 1:52.8 244 1139 26 163
11:17.2 15,000m 1:52.8 243 1137 26 167
11:17.7 18,000m 1:52.9 243 1135 26 169
11:12.1 21,000m 1:52.0 249 1156 27 171
0:20.7 21,097m 1:46.7 288 1291 29 171
Very nice, especially considering your focus on the shorter distances and the skierg.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » June 22nd, 2021, 10:24 am

flatbread wrote:
June 22nd, 2021, 10:09 am
back on the static and got a 2k PR

6:56.5 2,000m 1:44.1 310 1366 33 133
1:43.6 500m 1:43.6 315 1383 34 89
1:45.3 1,000m 1:45.3 300 1331 32 147
1:44.5 1,500m 1:44.5 307 1355 32 149
1:43.2 2,000m 1:43.2 318 1395 33 149
Well done, sub 7 is a massive milestone. Great pacing too 👏👍
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » June 23rd, 2021, 3:51 pm

flatbread wrote:
June 22nd, 2021, 10:15 am
KeithT wrote:
June 22nd, 2021, 10:14 am
flatbread wrote:
June 22nd, 2021, 10:09 am
back on the static and got a 2k PR

6:56.5 2,000m 1:44.1 310 1366 33 133
1:43.6 500m 1:43.6 315 1383 34 89
1:45.3 1,000m 1:45.3 300 1331 32 147
1:44.5 1,500m 1:44.5 307 1355 32 149
1:43.2 2,000m 1:43.2 318 1395 33 149
Awesome! Had you broke 7 minutes before?
nope. my previous was 7:00 in Dec.
Then this is a really big deal!
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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