New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » April 8th, 2021, 9:27 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 7:35 am
1' PB - 392m (+5m) :D

Wasn't sure if I should give it a go today, good I did :lol:

This effort felt amazing, followed Henry's advice to go by feel and was very surprised to see 1:14 average around 200m in. Faded at the end, but still 1:22 last pull,so propably a bit left :)

Super happy with the result :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 392m 1:16.5 781 2987 44
1:00.0 393m 1:16.3 787 3007 44
Nice :D now the key will be to keep your body in one piece. Won’t name possible goals but this is just the start. You faded, but still the second half was faster, so you also must have speeded up after halfway. First goal 400...

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » April 8th, 2021, 10:54 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 7:35 am
1' PB - 392m (+5m) :D

Wasn't sure if I should give it a go today, good I did :lol:

This effort felt amazing, followed Henry's advice to go by feel and was very surprised to see 1:14 average around 200m in. Faded at the end, but still 1:22 last pull,so propably a bit left :)

Super happy with the result :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 392m 1:16.5 781 2987 44
1:00.0 393m 1:16.3 787 3007 44
1:16 pace, and amazing, aren't what I was expecting to read :lol:

This is a very impressive PB, and is also very promising for more in the future if your fade wasn't too bad.

I'm with JA, I can't get my head around the raw power needed to get an average pace like that.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » April 8th, 2021, 11:22 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 10:54 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 7:35 am
1' PB - 392m (+5m) :D

Wasn't sure if I should give it a go today, good I did :lol:

This effort felt amazing, followed Henry's advice to go by feel and was very surprised to see 1:14 average around 200m in. Faded at the end, but still 1:22 last pull,so propably a bit left :)

Super happy with the result :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 392m 1:16.5 781 2987 44
1:00.0 393m 1:16.3 787 3007 44
1:16 pace, and amazing, aren't what I was expecting to read :lol:

This is a very impressive PB, and is also very promising for more in the future if your fade wasn't too bad.

I'm with JA, I can't get my head around the raw power needed to get an average pace like that.
Thanks Stu! Yeah, amazing is propably not the right word :lol:

Luckily my base power is pretty good and the weight training works so well. We all have our strengths, I can't imagine to row for 100k :wink:
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » April 8th, 2021, 11:29 am

hjs wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 9:27 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 7:35 am
1' PB - 392m (+5m) :D

Wasn't sure if I should give it a go today, good I did :lol:

This effort felt amazing, followed Henry's advice to go by feel and was very surprised to see 1:14 average around 200m in. Faded at the end, but still 1:22 last pull,so propably a bit left :)

Super happy with the result :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 392m 1:16.5 781 2987 44
1:00.0 393m 1:16.3 787 3007 44
Nice :D now the key will be to keep your body in one piece. Won’t name possible goals but this is just the start. You faded, but still the second half was faster, so you also must have speeded up after halfway. First goal 400...
Thanks Henry! 400 always was only a dream, but now I really think it's possible when I can get my strength level a good bit more up and some TTs under the belt.
Maybe I misunderstand something, but the first half was 1:14.x, so the second must be around 1:18?
Definitely not too much fade, and I didn't feel that terrible afterwards, would estimate that I could have done at least 10 more seconds sub 1:30, so a good sign for the 500m too, maybe something like 1:16 pace as long as possible and hopefully not dying too early :)
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » April 8th, 2021, 11:35 am

KeithT wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 9:20 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 7:35 am
1' PB - 392m (+5m) :D

Wasn't sure if I should give it a go today, good I did :lol:

This effort felt amazing, followed Henry's advice to go by feel and was very surprised to see 1:14 average around 200m in. Faded at the end, but still 1:22 last pull,so propably a bit left :)

Super happy with the result :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 392m 1:16.5 781 2987 44
1:00.0 393m 1:16.3 787 3007 44
Yes Martin!!!!! I wasn't on computer yesterday so just saw this and your 100M - truly amazing stuff. I mean seriously impressive power. My last 1' PB I never even hit 1:16 let alone have that be an average, mind-blowing. You will crush the 500M and go below sub 1:20 for sure. I may do the 500M today to see if I can PB but it won't come close to what you will do.
Thank you Keith! It's a great feeling to see when hard work pays off :)
Now I'm very confident to break 1:20, confidence is super high at the moment, so I should give it a go this week.
Good luck for your 500 TT, you're in great shape, the last 1k was incredibly strong and the 1' PB also not long ago, so you can be very confident to get a PB, would love to see you breaking my PB! :D
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » April 8th, 2021, 12:01 pm

MartinSH4321 wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 11:29 am
hjs wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 9:27 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 7:35 am
1' PB - 392m (+5m) :D

Wasn't sure if I should give it a go today, good I did :lol:

This effort felt amazing, followed Henry's advice to go by feel and was very surprised to see 1:14 average around 200m in. Faded at the end, but still 1:22 last pull,so propably a bit left :)

Super happy with the result :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 392m 1:16.5 781 2987 44
1:00.0 393m 1:16.3 787 3007 44
Nice :D now the key will be to keep your body in one piece. Won’t name possible goals but this is just the start. You faded, but still the second half was faster, so you also must have speeded up after halfway. First goal 400...
Thanks Henry! 400 always was only a dream, but now I really think it's possible when I can get my strength level a good bit more up and some TTs under the belt.
Maybe I misunderstand something, but the first half was 1:14.x, so the second must be around 1:18?
Definitely not too much fade, and I didn't feel that terrible afterwards, would estimate that I could have done at least 10 more seconds sub 1:30, so a good sign for the 500m too, maybe something like 1:16 pace as long as possible and hopefully not dying too early :)
Me bad, I misread your result. You did die, like you should :wink:
Keep doing what you do. Only be carefull with the real fast stuff, not needed to go full 100% power. 90/95% is enough.
Ps re lowpull, look at watts, every second now is such a gap, to much to see improvement.
Also keep doing time trials, this will make them less mental taxing, and more a “just a workout” thing.
Later on, you could ad in, overdistance work, although those are not easy to plan. 1k pace should feel very easy right now :D

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » April 8th, 2021, 1:41 pm

I couldn't let Martin take all the limelight....so strapped in and flapped around for 100m to PB by 0.2s 😂😂😂. Don't worry, I know this is rubbish, even for a late forties LWT. I'm never going to be really quick on the short stuff.

0:17.5 100m 1:27.5 51
0:04.8 25m 1:35.9 50
0:04.2 50m 1:24.0 57
0:04.2 75m 1:24.0 43
0:04.2 100m 1:24.0 57

Another one bites the dust 😁
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » April 8th, 2021, 1:45 pm

MartinSH4321 wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 7:35 am
1' PB - 392m (+5m) :D

Wasn't sure if I should give it a go today, good I did :lol:

This effort felt amazing, followed Henry's advice to go by feel and was very surprised to see 1:14 average around 200m in. Faded at the end, but still 1:22 last pull,so propably a bit left :)

Super happy with the result :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 392m 1:16.5 781 2987 44
1:00.0 393m 1:16.3 787 3007 44
Wonderful stuff there Martin. One more stroke would see you over 400, but how you pull an SPI of nearly 18 at that rate utterly baffles me.

I look forward to seeing your 500. Will you go as far as the 1k and 4'?
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PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » April 8th, 2021, 1:48 pm

winniewinser wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 1:41 pm
I couldn't let Martin take all the limelight....so strapped in and flapped around for 100m to PB by 0.2s 😂😂😂. Don't worry, I know this is rubbish, even for a late forties LWT. I'm never going to be really quick on the short stuff.

0:17.5 100m 1:27.5 51
0:04.8 25m 1:35.9 50
0:04.2 50m 1:24.0 57
0:04.2 75m 1:24.0 43
0:04.2 100m 1:24.0 57

Another one bites the dust 😁
No likely to be challenging Martin at this sort of thing yet, but your stronger stroke is really paying dividends across the park. This looks pretty good to my eyes.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » April 8th, 2021, 2:57 pm

500M PB at 1:21.3

Nothing too exciting here. I felt I was in a good place to give this a go and inspired by Martin thought I would do it today. I felt good after warming up and decided to split the TT into 2 sections with a plan to be right on past PB pace (1:21.9) at 250M and then try to go faster. First 250 went as planned, I did a few more quick half strokes than usual (hence the higher SPM) and then settled in and was at 1:22 halfway, I then put as much force as I could on the stroke and dropped the pace to 1:19/1:20 and held until about 60M to go when I faded pretty hard. Considering the way I felt, the overall pacing being good and such I really don't think I can do better unless I work on speed/power. My low pulls are slower than they used to be but I am able to hold near max efforts longer now. I may try 2K soon as that's the big one and the one I really want to focus on more though I will also do a FM soon as I want to make that an annual thing.

Time/Mtrs/Pace SPM
1:21.3/500/1:21.3/48

:41.0/250/1:22.0/51
:40.3/250/1:20.6/45
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » April 8th, 2021, 3:14 pm

KeithT wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 2:57 pm
500M PB at 1:21.3

Nothing too exciting here. I felt I was in a good place to give this a go and inspired by Martin thought I would do it today. I felt good after warming up and decided to split the TT into 2 sections with a plan to be right on past PB pace (1:21.9) at 250M and then try to go faster. First 250 went as planned, I did a few more quick half strokes than usual (hence the higher SPM) and then settled in and was at 1:22 halfway, I then put as much force as I could on the stroke and dropped the pace to 1:19/1:20 and held until about 60M to go when I faded pretty hard. Considering the way I felt, the overall pacing being good and such I really don't think I can do better unless I work on speed/power. My low pulls are slower than they used to be but I am able to hold near max efforts longer now. I may try 2K soon as that's the big one and the one I really want to focus on more though I will also do a FM soon as I want to make that an annual thing.

Time/Mtrs/Pace SPM
1:21.3/500/1:21.3/48

:41.0/250/1:22.0/51
:40.3/250/1:20.6/45
Fantastic PB Keith 🔥🔥🔥💪💪💪👏👏👏
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by nick rockliff » April 8th, 2021, 3:17 pm

KeithT wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 2:57 pm
500M PB at 1:21.3

Nothing too exciting here. I felt I was in a good place to give this a go and inspired by Martin thought I would do it today. I felt good after warming up and decided to split the TT into 2 sections with a plan to be right on past PB pace (1:21.9) at 250M and then try to go faster. First 250 went as planned, I did a few more quick half strokes than usual (hence the higher SPM) and then settled in and was at 1:22 halfway, I then put as much force as I could on the stroke and dropped the pace to 1:19/1:20 and held until about 60M to go when I faded pretty hard. Considering the way I felt, the overall pacing being good and such I really don't think I can do better unless I work on speed/power. My low pulls are slower than they used to be but I am able to hold near max efforts longer now. I may try 2K soon as that's the big one and the one I really want to focus on more though I will also do a FM soon as I want to make that an annual thing.

Time/Mtrs/Pace SPM
1:21.3/500/1:21.3/48

:41.0/250/1:22.0/51
:40.3/250/1:20.6/45
Nice 500, well done
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PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Tony Cook » April 8th, 2021, 3:27 pm

winniewinser wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 1:41 pm
I couldn't let Martin take all the limelight....so strapped in and flapped around for 100m to PB by 0.2s 😂😂😂. Don't worry, I know this is rubbish, even for a late forties LWT. I'm never going to be really quick on the short stuff.

0:17.5 100m 1:27.5 51
0:04.8 25m 1:35.9 50
0:04.2 50m 1:24.0 57
0:04.2 75m 1:24.0 43
0:04.2 100m 1:24.0 57

Another one bites the dust 😁
A PB is never rubbish. And you had 3.7 more seconds of leg burn!
As a running coach once said to me when I moaned about not being as quick as others, ‘It’s just as much effort for you as the fast guys, it’s just that you have to do it for longer.’
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PBs from 2020 - 100m 15.7s - 1min 355m - 500m 1:28.4 - 1k 3:10.6 - 2k 6:31.6 - 5k 17:34.9 - 6k 20:57.5 - 30min @ 20SPM 8,336m - 10k 36:28.0 - 1 hour 16,094m - HM 1:18:51.7
2021 - 5k 17:26 - FM 2:53:37.0

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » April 8th, 2021, 3:51 pm

winniewinser wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 1:41 pm
I couldn't let Martin take all the limelight....so strapped in and flapped around for 100m to PB by 0.2s 😂😂😂. Don't worry, I know this is rubbish, even for a late forties LWT. I'm never going to be really quick on the short stuff.

0:17.5 100m 1:27.5 51
0:04.8 25m 1:35.9 50
0:04.2 50m 1:24.0 57
0:04.2 75m 1:24.0 43
0:04.2 100m 1:24.0 57

Another one bites the dust 😁
That's a solid improvement, well done, your stronger stroke helps at all distances! :)
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » April 8th, 2021, 3:57 pm

KeithT wrote:
April 8th, 2021, 2:57 pm
500M PB at 1:21.3

Nothing too exciting here. I felt I was in a good place to give this a go and inspired by Martin thought I would do it today. I felt good after warming up and decided to split the TT into 2 sections with a plan to be right on past PB pace (1:21.9) at 250M and then try to go faster. First 250 went as planned, I did a few more quick half strokes than usual (hence the higher SPM) and then settled in and was at 1:22 halfway, I then put as much force as I could on the stroke and dropped the pace to 1:19/1:20 and held until about 60M to go when I faded pretty hard. Considering the way I felt, the overall pacing being good and such I really don't think I can do better unless I work on speed/power. My low pulls are slower than they used to be but I am able to hold near max efforts longer now. I may try 2K soon as that's the big one and the one I really want to focus on more though I will also do a FM soon as I want to make that an annual thing.

Time/Mtrs/Pace SPM
1:21.3/500/1:21.3/48

:41.0/250/1:22.0/51
:40.3/250/1:20.6/45
That's a great PB Keith, I'm very happy for you! Looks perfectly paced, and you got me by 0.1'' :D
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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