New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » March 4th, 2021, 3:32 pm

Tony Cook wrote:
March 4th, 2021, 2:31 pm
Half an hour of power. Beat previous by 204m so that was nice. Felt like HD’ing from only 10 mins in. Had to eat the elephant one mouthful at a time - ‘just get to half way.’ ‘Only 3 more mins and that’s three fifths done.’
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 8,336m 1:47.9 278 1257 20 167
6:00.0 1,671m 1:47.7 280 1263 20 158
12:00.0 1,670m 1:47.7 280 1261 20 164
18:00.0 1,673m 1:47.5 281 1267 20 170
24:00.0 1,665m 1:48.1 277 1253 20 171
30:00.0 1,658m 1:48.5 274 1241 20 175
That's a massive improvement and an excellent row! I can fell your battle with the mind games and you handled well.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by jsarche » March 4th, 2021, 3:38 pm

Tony Cook wrote:
March 4th, 2021, 2:31 pm
Half an hour of power. Beat previous by 204m so that was nice. Felt like HD’ing from only 10 mins in. Had to eat the elephant one mouthful at a time - ‘just get to half way.’ ‘Only 3 more mins and that’s three fifths done.’
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 8,336m 1:47.9 278 1257 20 167
6:00.0 1,671m 1:47.7 280 1263 20 158
12:00.0 1,670m 1:47.7 280 1261 20 164
18:00.0 1,673m 1:47.5 281 1267 20 170
24:00.0 1,665m 1:48.1 277 1253 20 171
30:00.0 1,658m 1:48.5 274 1241 20 175
That's really impressive - great work!
54 yo HWTM; 5'10": 500=1:36.1; 1k=3:25.3; 2k=7:07; 5k=18:48.0; 6K=22:49.3; 10k=39:15.5; HM=1:33:37.5

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » March 5th, 2021, 1:56 am

Tony Cook wrote:
March 4th, 2021, 2:31 pm
Half an hour of power. Beat previous by 204m so that was nice. Felt like HD’ing from only 10 mins in. Had to eat the elephant one mouthful at a time - ‘just get to half way.’ ‘Only 3 more mins and that’s three fifths done.’
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 8,336m 1:47.9 278 1257 20 167
6:00.0 1,671m 1:47.7 280 1263 20 158
12:00.0 1,670m 1:47.7 280 1261 20 164
18:00.0 1,673m 1:47.5 281 1267 20 170
24:00.0 1,665m 1:48.1 277 1253 20 171
30:00.0 1,658m 1:48.5 274 1241 20 175
Wow, at r20?! That's really strong Tony. What's your free rate PB? The last 12 minutes look increasingly painful
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » March 5th, 2021, 3:53 am

Dave_G1986 wrote:
March 2nd, 2021, 11:26 am
Failed to beat my 2km PB last time I tried a couple of weeks ago, almost HD that day, limping home about 10 seconds off a PB. Today was different though. I dug deep and knocked 0.4 off last Septembers time

Very good Dave,
I'm sure you've answered this before, but what else do you do for cross training? You're not getting those times on that volume of erging alone, surely?

Tony Cook wrote:
March 4th, 2021, 2:31 pm
Half an hour of power. Beat previous by 204m so that was nice. Felt like HD’ing from only 10 mins in. Had to eat the elephant one mouthful at a time - ‘just get to half way.’ ‘Only 3 more mins and that’s three fifths done.’
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 8,336m 1:47.9 278 1257 20 167
6:00.0 1,671m 1:47.7 280 1263 20 158
12:00.0 1,670m 1:47.7 280 1261 20 164
18:00.0 1,673m 1:47.5 281 1267 20 170
24:00.0 1,665m 1:48.1 277 1253 20 171
30:00.0 1,658m 1:48.5 274 1241 20 175
Very strong Tony,
Looks absolutely brutal, especially the last 6 min, but very ballsy indeed if you kept going through 20 minutes of wanting to HD.

I'd have hurled.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » March 5th, 2021, 4:12 am

Tony Cook wrote:
March 4th, 2021, 2:31 pm
Half an hour of power. Beat previous by 204m so that was nice. Felt like HD’ing from only 10 mins in. Had to eat the elephant one mouthful at a time - ‘just get to half way.’ ‘Only 3 more mins and that’s three fifths done.’
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 8,336m 1:47.9 278 1257 20 167
6:00.0 1,671m 1:47.7 280 1263 20 158
12:00.0 1,670m 1:47.7 280 1261 20 164
18:00.0 1,673m 1:47.5 281 1267 20 170
24:00.0 1,665m 1:48.1 277 1253 20 171
30:00.0 1,658m 1:48.5 274 1241 20 175
Jeeezzz :o ....that is a super strong row Tony and a massive new PB.....huge congrats B)
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Tony Cook » March 5th, 2021, 4:39 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
March 5th, 2021, 1:56 am
Tony Cook wrote:
March 4th, 2021, 2:31 pm
Half an hour of power. Beat previous by 204m so that was nice. Felt like HD’ing from only 10 mins in. Had to eat the elephant one mouthful at a time - ‘just get to half way.’ ‘Only 3 more mins and that’s three fifths done.’
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 8,336m 1:47.9 278 1257 20 167
6:00.0 1,671m 1:47.7 280 1263 20 158
12:00.0 1,670m 1:47.7 280 1261 20 164
18:00.0 1,673m 1:47.5 281 1267 20 170
24:00.0 1,665m 1:48.1 277 1253 20 171
30:00.0 1,658m 1:48.5 274 1241 20 175
Wow, at r20?! That's really strong Tony. What's your free rate PB? The last 12 minutes look increasingly painful
Thanks Stu. I’ve never tried a free rate 30’. I’ve always thought if I’m going free rate then do 5/6/10k rather than double up on 30’ of pain cave.
Having refused the body’s request to stop at 20’ I got my mind to focus on the projected finish with a view to 8,333 - 1/3 of a k fits my mind rather than a random number. It did get increasingly hard to keep at that figure but for those 10 mins the mental battle was won.
Born 1963 6' 5" 100Kg
PBs from 2020 - 100m 15.7s - 1min 355m - 500m 1:28.4 - 1k 3:10.6 - 2k 6:31.6 - 5k 17:34.9 - 6k 20:57.5 - 30min @ 20SPM 8,336m - 10k 36:28.0 - 1 hour 16,094m - HM 1:18:51.7
2021 - 5k 17:26 - FM 2:53:37.0

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » March 5th, 2021, 4:47 am

Tony Cook wrote:
March 5th, 2021, 4:39 am
Dangerscouse wrote:
March 5th, 2021, 1:56 am
Tony Cook wrote:
March 4th, 2021, 2:31 pm
Half an hour of power. Beat previous by 204m so that was nice. Felt like HD’ing from only 10 mins in. Had to eat the elephant one mouthful at a time - ‘just get to half way.’ ‘Only 3 more mins and that’s three fifths done.’
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 8,336m 1:47.9 278 1257 20 167
6:00.0 1,671m 1:47.7 280 1263 20 158
12:00.0 1,670m 1:47.7 280 1261 20 164
18:00.0 1,673m 1:47.5 281 1267 20 170
24:00.0 1,665m 1:48.1 277 1253 20 171
30:00.0 1,658m 1:48.5 274 1241 20 175
Wow, at r20?! That's really strong Tony. What's your free rate PB? The last 12 minutes look increasingly painful
Thanks Stu. I’ve never tried a free rate 30’. I’ve always thought if I’m going free rate then do 5/6/10k rather than double up on 30’ of pain cave.
Having refused the body’s request to stop at 20’ I got my mind to focus on the projected finish with a view to 8,333 - 1/3 of a k fits my mind rather than a random number. It did get increasingly hard to keep at that figure but for those 10 mins the mental battle was won.
Very nice, this was certainly a full 100% effort. You still keep on improving steadily, congrats!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » March 5th, 2021, 4:53 am

Tony Cook wrote:
March 5th, 2021, 4:39 am
Thanks Stu. I’ve never tried a free rate 30’. I’ve always thought if I’m going free rate then do 5/6/10k rather than double up on 30’ of pain cave.
Having refused the body’s request to stop at 20’ I got my mind to focus on the projected finish with a view to 8,333 - 1/3 of a k fits my mind rather than a random number. It did get increasingly hard to keep at that figure but for those 10 mins the mental battle was won.
I'm continually amazed by how different we all are, and what works for you is a receipe for disaster for others.

FWIW, there's about 200m difference between my r20 and free rate 30 mins PBs, and that seems to be fairly common, albeit it's only a very rough guide.

Really impressive how you battled through that last 10 minutes. The urge to HD must have been huge.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Tandstad » March 5th, 2021, 5:06 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
March 5th, 2021, 4:53 am
Tony Cook wrote:
March 5th, 2021, 4:39 am
Thanks Stu. I’ve never tried a free rate 30’. I’ve always thought if I’m going free rate then do 5/6/10k rather than double up on 30’ of pain cave.
Having refused the body’s request to stop at 20’ I got my mind to focus on the projected finish with a view to 8,333 - 1/3 of a k fits my mind rather than a random number. It did get increasingly hard to keep at that figure but for those 10 mins the mental battle was won.
I'm continually amazed by how different we all are, and what works for you is a receipe for disaster for others.

FWIW, there's about 200m difference between my r20 and free rate 30 mins PBs, and that seems to be fairly common, albeit it's only a very rough guide.

Really impressive how you battled through that last 10 minutes. The urge to HD must have been huge.
327 meter difference here, although my free rate is 4 months newer(Aug 20) than my 30r20(Apr 20). But I think you could get past 8600 on a proper free rate attempt Tony :)
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dave_G1986 » March 5th, 2021, 9:20 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
March 5th, 2021, 3:53 am
Dave_G1986 wrote:
March 2nd, 2021, 11:26 am
Failed to beat my 2km PB last time I tried a couple of weeks ago, almost HD that day, limping home about 10 seconds off a PB. Today was different though. I dug deep and knocked 0.4 off last Septembers time

Very good Dave,
I'm sure you've answered this before, but what else do you do for cross training? You're not getting those times on that volume of erging alone, surely?


Cheers Max. I’ve never followed anything structured really. I’ve just been mixing it up a bit since the start of the year doing rowing and then running next time. With rest days in the middle, so probably an equal amount of both. I throw in the odd weights session but it’s hard with the gyms closed and limited equipment and motivation at home! I enjoy getting out on the road bike too but probably been out twice all winter
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PBs: 500m = 1:28.8 June 21 / 1km = 3:16.2 June 19 / 2km = 6:57.7 March 21 / 5km = 18:39.8 April 21 / 10km = 39:46.8 July 21 / 1 min = 343m June 21 / 30 min = 7731m March 21

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » March 8th, 2021, 7:29 am

SkiErg:

Warm up:
10' at 2:15ish
2x30" 2'r

then 1k TT

3:36.0 1,000m 1:48.0 278 1256 49
0:42.8 200m 1:47.0 286 1283 50
0:42.8 400m 1:47.0 286 1283 48
0:43.6 600m 1:49.0 270 1230 48
0:43.6 800m 1:49.0 270 1230 50
0:43.2 1,000m 1:48.0 278 1256 51

Fly and just-hold-on-and-avoid-dying. Had a real wobble between 600m-500m to go when I'm sure I pulled about 50 strokes (the erging equivalent of those movie scenes where You. Just. Cannot. Get. To the door at the end of the corridor).

Very slow 1k cool down afterwards to get over 10k for the day.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » March 8th, 2021, 8:03 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
March 8th, 2021, 7:29 am
SkiErg:

Warm up:
10' at 2:15ish
2x30" 2'r

then 1k TT

3:36.0 1,000m 1:48.0 278 1256 49
0:42.8 200m 1:47.0 286 1283 50
0:42.8 400m 1:47.0 286 1283 48
0:43.6 600m 1:49.0 270 1230 48
0:43.6 800m 1:49.0 270 1230 50
0:43.2 1,000m 1:48.0 278 1256 51

Fly and just-hold-on-and-avoid-dying. Had a real wobble between 600m-500m to go when I'm sure I pulled about 50 strokes (the erging equivalent of those movie scenes where You. Just. Cannot. Get. To the door at the end of the corridor).

Very slow 1k cool down afterwards to get over 10k for the day.
Well done. Not done one in a few years. Pretty horrible, those 3 minutes feel like an hour.

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » March 8th, 2021, 8:14 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
March 8th, 2021, 7:29 am
SkiErg:

Warm up:
10' at 2:15ish
2x30" 2'r

then 1k TT

3:36.0 1,000m 1:48.0 278 1256 49
0:42.8 200m 1:47.0 286 1283 50
0:42.8 400m 1:47.0 286 1283 48
0:43.6 600m 1:49.0 270 1230 48
0:43.6 800m 1:49.0 270 1230 50
0:43.2 1,000m 1:48.0 278 1256 51

Fly and just-hold-on-and-avoid-dying. Had a real wobble between 600m-500m to go when I'm sure I pulled about 50 strokes (the erging equivalent of those movie scenes where You. Just. Cannot. Get. To the door at the end of the corridor).

Very slow 1k cool down afterwards to get over 10k for the day.
Congrats Max.....awesome new PB and I can only imagine how much that last 400m hurt :shock: B)
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » March 8th, 2021, 8:35 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
March 8th, 2021, 7:29 am
SkiErg:

Warm up:
10' at 2:15ish
2x30" 2'r

then 1k TT

3:36.0 1,000m 1:48.0 278 1256 49
0:42.8 200m 1:47.0 286 1283 50
0:42.8 400m 1:47.0 286 1283 48
0:43.6 600m 1:49.0 270 1230 48
0:43.6 800m 1:49.0 270 1230 50
0:43.2 1,000m 1:48.0 278 1256 51

Fly and just-hold-on-and-avoid-dying. Had a real wobble between 600m-500m to go when I'm sure I pulled about 50 strokes (the erging equivalent of those movie scenes where You. Just. Cannot. Get. To the door at the end of the corridor).

Very slow 1k cool down afterwards to get over 10k for the day.
Great stuff Max. A massive wobble at halfway, and still ramping it up for the last 200m is really good going.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » March 8th, 2021, 9:38 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
March 8th, 2021, 7:29 am
SkiErg:

Warm up:
10' at 2:15ish
2x30" 2'r

then 1k TT

3:36.0 1,000m 1:48.0 278 1256 49
0:42.8 200m 1:47.0 286 1283 50
0:42.8 400m 1:47.0 286 1283 48
0:43.6 600m 1:49.0 270 1230 48
0:43.6 800m 1:49.0 270 1230 50
0:43.2 1,000m 1:48.0 278 1256 51

Fly and just-hold-on-and-avoid-dying. Had a real wobble between 600m-500m to go when I'm sure I pulled about 50 strokes (the erging equivalent of those movie scenes where You. Just. Cannot. Get. To the door at the end of the corridor).

Very slow 1k cool down afterwards to get over 10k for the day.
Well done Max, that's a long way to go with a wobble half-way, great effort!
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1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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