Is Pete plan still the best for improving 2k ?

[futurechamp]

Is the Pete plan still considered the best here? I'm a bit confused as it says nothing about HR training. I suppose you just work this out for yourself?

I recently started training again and have been doing 2X 20mins 6 times a week. I'm thinking of starting the Pete plan to improve my 2k time in 3-4 months.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

[max_ratcliffe]

Is the Pete plan still considered the best here? I'm a bit confused as it says nothing about HR training. I suppose you just work this out for yourself?

I recently started training again and have been doing 2X 20mins 6 times a week. I'm thinking of starting the Pete plan to improve my 2k time in 3-4 months.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Other more knowledgeable folks will reply better than I can, but I think it depends on how good you are. If you really do have designs on being a future champ, then you probably can do better than the pp, which was never originally intended for anyone else.

But lots of people have got very good times on it, including Pete himself. I think Henry said Pete did a 6.10, which is very very good, but somewhat short of elite.

[Tony Cook]

I’ve only erged properly since March but have a long background in playing and coaching other sports and fitness.
I wouldn’t say the PP is ‘the best’. It is a pared down version of the Wolverine Plan so, by definition, shouldn’t be as good - in terms of what it achieves.
I tried the PP for three cycles and then went to the C2 interactive plan - I picked 16 weeks, 6 sessions a week. Felt better to me as the structure was clear - several weeks of aerobic base building moving into faster intervals and short sharp stuff nearer to the end. I knocked 17 seconds off my 2k time. What I cannot say is whether I would have done that, or better if I’d repeated 5 or 6 cycles of the PP.

[Dangerscouse]

Imo, what is 'best' for you, might not be 'best' for others. We are all similar, but so very different in a myriad number of ways.

The Pete Plan definitely does work, and I've seen people make great progress on it, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's the best option. What might be better is to amend the long steady distances to a HR cap, rather than a 2k+ x seconds.

I'm a big advocate in HR training for the long, slow distances, as you can tailor the pace accordingly if you're having a bad day, feel tired etc, rather than slavishly following a set pace.

[hjs]

Is the Pete plan still considered the best here? I'm a bit confused as it says nothing about HR training. I suppose you just work this out for yourself?

I recently started training again and have been doing 2X 20mins 6 times a week. I'm thinking of starting the Pete plan to improve my 2k time in 3-4 months.

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Like the others say. In itself it can be very usefull in a buildup in the shorter term to a race/test.

Remember, that even Pete himself did not think, this was the best he could do. But he thought this up so he could train within his lunchhour at work. Done and dusted within a hour.

If you are training alone this could be a good way to keep discipline. Having a training partner though, would certainly be helpfull.

[Ciaran77]

Ive only been erging close to a year. After 8months my progress had stalled. Ive done 3 cycles of the Pete plan and taken 20seconds out of my 2k pb. I done a test after each cycle. Seems very effective to me.

[futurechamp]

Imo, what is 'best' for you, might not be 'best' for others. We are all similar, but so very different in a myriad number of ways.

The Pete Plan definitely does work, and I've seen people make great progress on it, but it doesn't necessarily mean that it's the best option. What might be better is to amend the long steady distances to a HR cap, rather than a 2k+ x seconds.

I'm a big advocate in HR training for the long, slow distances, as you can tailor the pace accordingly if you're having a bad day, feel tired etc, rather than slavishly following a set pace.

Okay thanks. Yeah I don't even understand how people can train without a HR monitor. They don't really know how hard they are working/ if they are building up too much lactate trying to hold a split.

[DNA_Rower]

I've done countless cycles of the Pete Plan and I always improve my Pete Plan times. I am just about reaching my peak times from 2017 again, so thinking about having a crack at a PB in another couple of cycles. Maybe in January once the excess alcohol has left my system again!

I like it partly for its simplicity and the fact you are really just constantly training against yourself from 3 weeks ago.

[Tsnor]

I’ve only erged properly since March but have a long background in playing and coaching other sports and fitness.
I wouldn’t say the PP is ‘the best’. It is a pared down version of the Wolverine Plan so, by definition, shouldn’t be as good - in terms of what it achieves.
I tried the PP for three cycles and then went to the C2 interactive plan - I picked 16 weeks, 6 sessions a week. Felt better to me as the structure was clear - several weeks of aerobic base building moving into faster intervals and short sharp stuff nearer to the end. I knocked 17 seconds off my 2k time. What I cannot say is whether I would have done that, or better if I’d repeated 5 or 6 cycles of the PP.

Was reading this older thread and came across the reference to the "C2 interactive plan". Can anyone post a URL or instructions on how to find it. I can't find it (and fully expect to say "duh" once you tell me how). Sorry to necro an older thread.

[Tony Cook]

I’ve only erged properly since March but have a long background in playing and coaching other sports and fitness.
I wouldn’t say the PP is ‘the best’. It is a pared down version of the Wolverine Plan so, by definition, shouldn’t be as good - in terms of what it achieves.
I tried the PP for three cycles and then went to the C2 interactive plan - I picked 16 weeks, 6 sessions a week. Felt better to me as the structure was clear - several weeks of aerobic base building moving into faster intervals and short sharp stuff nearer to the end. I knocked 17 seconds off my 2k time. What I cannot say is whether I would have done that, or better if I’d repeated 5 or 6 cycles of the PP.

Was reading this older thread and came across the reference to the "C2 interactive plan". Can anyone post a URL or instructions on how to find it. I can't find it (and fully expect to say "duh" once you tell me how). Sorry to necro an older thread.

I got it from a link on one of the threads on the forum but as it was months ago I can’t remember which one. I saved the spreadsheet on my works computer and have ‘scribbled’ all over it now and cannot upload from there.
I am sure a kindly person will have the link, or know how/where to find it soon.

[jamesg]

Should be here:

http://3.8.144.21/training/interactive

[Tsnor]

Thank you. Neat to see a numeric IP address instead of DNS.

Here are first few weeks of suggested workouts. More UT1 and less UT2 than I expected.

Week Session 1 Session 2 Session 3 Session 4 Session 5
1 TEST 1x20'UT1 2x12'UT1 2x15'UT1 2x10'UT1
2 40'UT2 2x14'UT1 2x16'UT1 2x18'UT1 2x15'UT1
3 45'UT2 2x17'UT1 2x19'UT1 4x10'UT1 2x18'UT1
4 30'UT2 2x7'AT 2x10'UT1 2x7'AT 2x12'UT1
5 45'UT2 2x8'AT 2x14'UT1 2x8'AT 2x16'UT1

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