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Post by [old] John Rupp » April 22nd, 2005, 8:54 pm

Cute video.<br /><br />I like the 14 sets of 2 reps.<br /><br />Here's an animation of WR holder Galabin Boevski, showing the low squat position of Olympic weightlifters.<br /><a href='http://www.gewichtheben-zeilsheim.de/images/Boevski.gif' target='_blank'>http://www.gewichtheben-zeilsheim.de/im ... gif</a><br /><br />A photo of Galabin breaking the 69kg (152.8 pound) clean & jerk record with 196.5 kg (432.3 pounds).<br /><a href='http://slam.canoe.ca/2000GamesGallerySe ... ting1.html' target='_blank'>http://slam.canoe.ca/2000GamesGallerySe ... tml</a><br /><br />Notice the powerful thighs.<br /><a href='http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpictu ... ting,0.jpg' target='_blank'>http://www.smh.com.au/ffxImage/urlpictu ... g,0.jpg</a>

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Post by [old] JaneW. » April 23rd, 2005, 1:53 am

One big happy family! I guess this is how men interact. I have much to learn. <br /><br /><br />Friday<br />women's night. I'm going crazy hanging around you guys all week. Needed to bond with women for awhile. <br /><br />(cycling 58min, trained avg. heart rate 160 bpm. , 30min. row at 22spm with gloves)<br /><br />1 set pushups, 2sets pullups, chinups. In an hour, weights. <br />set up training diary. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

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Post by [old] Jim Barry » April 23rd, 2005, 11:18 am

Yesterday tried headstand push-ups (against a wall). That is not happening yet at all, but a few mintutes later I was happy to just do headstands in the middle of the room unassisted. (my wife was impressed anyway)<br /><br />(psst...the latter was workout of the day on crossfit).<br /><br />Also tried some speed push-ups. I got in 40 in 34 seconds. (although honestly some might have not been "short slide") <br /><br />10 Hindu Pushups. <br /><br />And I was right, the Hindu squats were hard on me. My hamstrings were very sore yesterday (walking like an old man). <br /><br />This morning I tried 6 rep tabata squat workout with just two 15lbs barbells (10 ground to full extention reps in 20 seconds). I can see that upping the weight even a little and a few extra reps and all 8 rounds would be nasty. I'll look into that when my hamstrings get back in order here in a few days. <br /><br />I'll hopefully get a 90' ride on my trainer later today (raining and cold)

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Post by [old] JaneW. » April 23rd, 2005, 12:03 pm

Wow! I'm impressed with your unassisted handstands. How are you finding your balance? Where is your focus? <br /><br />With handstands, my focal point is in my hands. I want to be able to do the kind of controlled handstands like the competitive springboard divers. Have you seen those? Hope your hamstrings will become better. <br /><br />Describe Hindu pushups? I'll see if Google can help.

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Post by [old] JaneW. » April 23rd, 2005, 12:36 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-JaneW.+Apr 23 2005, 09:03 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(JaneW. @ Apr 23 2005, 09:03 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Wow! I'm impressed with your unassisted handstands. How are you finding your balance? Where is your focus? <br /><br />With handstands, my focal point is in my hands. I want to be able to do the kind of controlled handstands like the competitive springboard divers. Have you seen those? Hope your hamstrings will become better. <br /><br />Describe Hindu pushups? I'll see if Google can help. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Jim,<br />The Hindu pushups are like downward dog and upward dog positions in yoga. How is yoga related to these exercises? Any idea? <br /><br />(Hush, hush, some of the men in crossfit look like Gary. Sorry Gary but a few do resemble you in structure. )<br />

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Post by [old] Jim Barry » April 24th, 2005, 8:03 am

Read closer Jane, I'm still using my head. It is not that impressive other than I find being upside down to be a stress in and of itself. Getting the legs up there is feels cool though.<br /><br /><br />Edit: <br />My ride on the trainer yesterday went really well. I've had the hardest time getting my HR into my normal workout HR zones. I can do it easily on the road. I decided it was how I had the trainer set up. I lowered the resistance and rode in a higher gear. It was just right and caught a groove at 85-90rpm. Felt more like the road. My 90' ride (longest ever on the trainer) averaged 145bpm Good for you Jane at 160. What's your max and min HR?

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Post by [old] JaneW. » April 24th, 2005, 3:47 pm

Jim,<br />still impressed because being upside down can be terrifying for some people.<br /><br /> For my avg. 160 bpm, my max was 170's and min 150's. Amazing that the Tour de France riders train at 180 avg. But I never forget that every person from beginners to elite all have great courage and determination to continue the quest of reaching their full potential. I have a deeper respect for all beginners. <br /><br /><br />Training:<br />Last night 50min row, erg then 3x 2k rows painful at level 4,5 aerobic and strength work . <br />Today- yoga, weghts <br /><br /> Note: I read an incredible story in the papers today. Ultramarathon runner, Dean karnazes.He puts his kids to bed and then covers 75 miles. He also surfs, windsurf,<br />scuba dives and climb mountains. Strong leg muscles. He does two sets of 200 push ups, 50 pullups, and 400 situps twice a day. He sounds like he's into orienteering. <br /><br />He will fit right in with the Eco Challenge athletes. These people can often train 24hours at a time with relatively little sleep not to mention the navigational skills invloved. They often are experts are knowing how to survive in the wilderness. <br /><br />With every acitivity, I have the utmost awe for every person's work ethics. This is what he says :<br /> In Western society, we try to be as comfortable as possible. We think comfort equals happiness. There's no struggle, no pain. I think we need highs and lows to feel alive. Instead of trying to avoid the pain, I celebrate it. I feel alive. " <br /><br />Interesting way of describing his philosophy, don't you guys think? <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

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Post by [old] JaneW. » April 24th, 2005, 4:13 pm

Correction:<br /><br />Karnazes doesn't stretch or take supplements but does 200 pushups, 50 pullups and 400 sit ups twice a day. - extracted from a Bay Area newspaper.<br /><br />Eco Challenge athletes tend to be more muscular and well rounded meaning their skills range from mountain climbing, rowing, swimming, trail running, mountain biking, camping, navigating, etc. - for those who aren't familiar with Eco Challenge

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Post by [old] akit110 » April 24th, 2005, 5:53 pm

With every acitivity, I have the utmost awe for every person's work ethics. This is what he says :<br /> In Western society, we try to be as comfortable as possible. We think comfort equals happiness. There's no struggle, no pain. I think we need highs and lows to feel alive. Instead of trying to avoid the pain, I celebrate it. I feel alive. " <br /><br />Interesting way of describing his philosophy, don't you guys think? <br />[/quote]<br /><br />I appreciate what he's trying to say. However, I think he's generalizing a bit too much about Western society, maybe. I think there are plenty of people even in the West, who have to struggle to get by - for whom seeking highs and lows through athletic recreation are not a necessity to feel alive since unfortunately they encounter plenty of challenges just to get through a normal day.

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Post by [old] JaneW. » April 24th, 2005, 6:07 pm

Ah yes, Akit<br /><br />I see what you are saying. From the paper, he says"we ge in our air conditioned cars, our temperature controlled houses. etc. " I believe he might be talking about the wealthy and people who aren't struggling to get by. Very good point. <br /><br />But I have to admit, that even though he's comparably rich, he could have chosen a sedentary lifestyle but he didn't. Instead, he wanted to experience an inner peace and solitude in which running has given him. <br /><br />Sadly, we are all not born with certain comforts such as a roof over our heads, enough food, safe neighborhoods. Is this what you're talking about?

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Post by [old] JaneW. » April 24th, 2005, 6:34 pm

Sorry, but I wanted to add one more point but will be curious as to what others will say.<br /><br />In the poor, ghetto neighborhoods, basketball and boxing can be popular. I have seen how these athletes train and they are incredible. So, even with their sad socioeconomic conditions, they use training to be mentally tough and possbily to strive towards a dream where only a few can achieve, meaning NBA, NFL, boxing champions. Their bodies are ripped and cut up including tattoos. The women in these neighborhoods will sometimes turn to bodybuilding and running for positive outlets. However, some may not have the support in these neighborhoods to use athletics as a tool in dealing with everyday stress. <br />

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Post by [old] akit110 » April 24th, 2005, 9:54 pm

<!--QuoteBegin-JaneW.+Apr 24 2005, 06:34 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(JaneW. @ Apr 24 2005, 06:34 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Sorry, but I wanted to add one more point but will be curious as to what others will say.<br /><br />In the poor, ghetto neighborhoods, basketball and boxing can be popular. I have seen how these athletes train and they are incredible. So, even with their sad socioeconomic conditions, they use training to be mentally tough and possbily to strive towards a dream where only a few can achieve, meaning NBA, NFL, boxing champions. Their bodies are ripped and cut up including tattoos. The women in these neighborhoods will sometimes turn to bodybuilding and running for positive outlets. However, some may not have the support in these neighborhoods to use athletics as a tool in dealing with everyday stress. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I live in a neighborhood like you describe i.e. primarily working class, urban. The level of sports participation is not as high as some might think especially among young women. Just like the rest of the industrialized world esp. the US, kids are involved in outdoor play and sports less and less. Sure basketball is still popular recreationally. Boxing is done by very, very few. <br /><br />I am really impressed by what people can do e.g. 75-mile runs after their kids go to bed, 24-hour races through rugged terrain. But another part of me knows that a lot of our shared mutual obsession on this forum about erging, health and fitness etc. is really the exception in this world. And that the majority of the world is not middle-class, professional, comfortable, etc., and many - if not most- have so many challenges in their daily lives that they need not search so far afield as the person you quoted for challenges, highs, lows, and pains. <br /><br />So I just wanted to voice a sort of counterpoint to the presumption of the quoted individual. And that the level of affluence and comfort varies quite dramatically even here in the West.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

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Post by [old] cforce » April 24th, 2005, 10:10 pm

Heres the dilemma, I only have 65 pounds of weight at my house, I'm on the water twice daily, and I dont have the time/money/energy to get a membership at my local gym, but I wanna make some strength gains and improve my physique while im at it. Here is my plan ... (For the time being I will be doing lower weight - higher rep to put on a bit of muscle mass)<br /><br />clean and jerks <br />Bent-over rows<br />push-ups<br />body jump squats<br /><br />pretty much all of this with 4 sets of 10-12 reps, plus situps, planks and adominal work.<br /><br />How does this work? Any other excercises I should add in?<br /><br />thanks

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Post by [old] sremery » April 24th, 2005, 10:37 pm

I am new to rowing, but pretty experienced with weight training. From what I have learned in my early rowing experience hams and glutes are major. You may want to add stiff leg dead lift to build your hams and lower back and walking lunges to build your glutes. Also don't ignore your chest and shoulders, bend and lateral raise should be added. Just my opinion multiple sets for multiple reps burns time, but you can get the same results and good cardio of you get more weight and do one set to failure in the 8-12 range pre-exhausting the major body part first.<br /><br />Good luck

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Post by [old] sremery » April 24th, 2005, 10:44 pm

I do a twice a week workout total body everything to failure pretty intense. Warm up cardio and then start with leg press warm up of 400lb 12 reps then 600 lb 3 reps, 800lb 12 reps and then 1000 lb to failure around 30 reps, off to seated leg curls and then leg extention. After a brief spout of wanting to deliver my lunch on the floor, everything else to failure: rotary torso, incline flyes, bench, lateral raise, curl, pulldown, pull over, dips, crunches, hyper extention. Finish the routine in about 45 minutes average heart rate is 185bpm.<br /><br />Now I am new to rowing so have aboslutely no idea how it converts.

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