New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » August 26th, 2020, 4:30 pm

Tandstad wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 4:20 pm
KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 2:11 pm
Finally!!....... Sub 36:00 10K.....35:54.4

So, after a few failed attempts to reach the sub 36:00 goal I had a another try today. Interestingly, I felt good for the other attempts where today I was feeling a little more sluggish. I didn't sleep much last night and legs felt "ok" but I thought maybe today could be one of those surprise days. So, wanting to do a more intense piece no matter what, I decided to set the monitor to a 10K and start out like I was doing a TT and just see how it went. I swear having no expectations always seems better. I was ahead of pace as I got to 3K to go where I usually wobble but held the split. I actually wobbled some from 2k-1k to go but it was more about being cautious as I knew I still had a "sprint" in me. Was right on goal pace as I approached 500m to go and did the last 500m under 1:40. Overall pacing was still a little fast in the beginning but no giant drop off from goal pace so I am OK with it. Stroke rate was lower than planned but where I found the grove. I still think I can do better but very happy and now moving on to the 5K.

Time/Meters/Pace/SPM
35:54.4/10000/1:47.7/24

7:07.5/2000/1:46.8/26
7:10.6/4000/1:47.6/25
7:12.0/6000/1:48.0/24
7:14.0/8000/1:48.5/23
7:10.4/10000/1:47.6/23
Big congratulations Keith, seldom has anyone deserved to reach their goal more than this one 😎🎉rating 24 is also absolutely brilliant like the lads before me has mentioned :)
Thanks! I am glad I got it done as it was annoying me and now I feel ready for the 5K TT, then 2k, 1K. The rating, I didn't feel like I was trying to overpower it, was just the rate that was giving me the split time. In the end I was rating higher but was even lower right before. I rate high as many for the shorter rows, but 5K and up I always seem lower. Not sure what it means (if anything) - just is what it is I guess.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by iangallagher » August 27th, 2020, 12:04 am

KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 2:11 pm
Finally!!....... Sub 36:00 10K.....35:54.4

So, after a few failed attempts to reach the sub 36:00 goal I had a another try today. Interestingly, I felt good for the other attempts where today I was feeling a little more sluggish. I didn't sleep much last night and legs felt "ok" but I thought maybe today could be one of those surprise days. So, wanting to do a more intense piece no matter what, I decided to set the monitor to a 10K and start out like I was doing a TT and just see how it went. I swear having no expectations always seems better. I was ahead of pace as I got to 3K to go where I usually wobble but held the split. I actually wobbled some from 2k-1k to go but it was more about being cautious as I knew I still had a "sprint" in me. Was right on goal pace as I approached 500m to go and did the last 500m under 1:40. Overall pacing was still a little fast in the beginning but no giant drop off from goal pace so I am OK with it. Stroke rate was lower than planned but where I found the grove. I still think I can do better but very happy and now moving on to the 5K.

Time/Meters/Pace/SPM
35:54.4/10000/1:47.7/24

7:07.5/2000/1:46.8/26
7:10.6/4000/1:47.6/25
7:12.0/6000/1:48.0/24
7:14.0/8000/1:48.5/23
7:10.4/10000/1:47.6/23
Great result Keith and well deserved! I can’t comprehend rating that low but like you say - it works for you. Would flat out kill
Me if I tried! Looking forward to seeing you take
Some chunks off your 5k!
182cm; 89kg; 1km = 2.57.5; 2km = 6.19; 4mins = 1296; 5km = 16.49; 6km = 20.24; 30mins = 8605; 10km= 35.31; 60 minutes = 16205 HM = 1:18.50
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » August 27th, 2020, 12:35 am

KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 4:26 pm
Now for the 5K.....should we dare say sub 17:00?!
:mrgreen: my initial reaction is, not a chance! But I said that about going much past sub 36, so maybe it could happen. I'll be very happy with 17:10 for now, and that should also translate into a faster 2k.

The 7-8k range in a 10k is where I always lost it, and that was the difference for me too.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » August 27th, 2020, 2:32 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 12:35 am
KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 4:26 pm
Now for the 5K.....should we dare say sub 17:00?!
:mrgreen: my initial reaction is, not a chance! But I said that about going much past sub 36, so maybe it could happen. I'll be very happy with 17:10 for now, and that should also translate into a faster 2k.

The 7-8k range in a 10k is where I always lost it, and that was the difference for me too.
Congrats Keith, the ones you have to work the most for are the best.

Re 5k think sub 17 is also sub 622. A 36 min 10 points to 17.20 ish. Best to prove that wrong :D

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Tandstad » August 27th, 2020, 3:08 am

hjs wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 2:32 am
Dangerscouse wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 12:35 am
KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 4:26 pm
Now for the 5K.....should we dare say sub 17:00?!
:mrgreen: my initial reaction is, not a chance! But I said that about going much past sub 36, so maybe it could happen. I'll be very happy with 17:10 for now, and that should also translate into a faster 2k.

The 7-8k range in a 10k is where I always lost it, and that was the difference for me too.
Congrats Keith, the ones you have to work the most for are the best.

Re 5k think sub 17 is also sub 622. A 36 min 10 points to 17.20 ish. Best to prove that wrong :D
To provide some data from own experience with 5k/10k:
18.02.2020: 5k 17:04.9
14.03.2020: 10k 35:24.1
18.03.2020: 5k 16:44.5
14.04.2020: 10k 34:44.9

So I think you need to be close to 35.30 to have a shot at breaking 17 :)
39YO, 188 cm, 115 kg, NOR. Instagram: jtands
1K: 2:59(2020), 2K: 6:16(2020), 5K: 16:44(2020), 10K: 34:44(2020), 30min: 8743m(2020), 30r20: 8416(2020), 60min: 16851(2021) HM: 1:16:19(2020)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by winniewinser » August 27th, 2020, 3:27 am

KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 2:11 pm
Finally!!....... Sub 36:00 10K.....35:54.4

So, after a few failed attempts to reach the sub 36:00 goal I had a another try today. Interestingly, I felt good for the other attempts where today I was feeling a little more sluggish. I didn't sleep much last night and legs felt "ok" but I thought maybe today could be one of those surprise days. So, wanting to do a more intense piece no matter what, I decided to set the monitor to a 10K and start out like I was doing a TT and just see how it went. I swear having no expectations always seems better. I was ahead of pace as I got to 3K to go where I usually wobble but held the split. I actually wobbled some from 2k-1k to go but it was more about being cautious as I knew I still had a "sprint" in me. Was right on goal pace as I approached 500m to go and did the last 500m under 1:40. Overall pacing was still a little fast in the beginning but no giant drop off from goal pace so I am OK with it. Stroke rate was lower than planned but where I found the grove. I still think I can do better but very happy and now moving on to the 5K.

Time/Meters/Pace/SPM
35:54.4/10000/1:47.7/24

7:07.5/2000/1:46.8/26
7:10.6/4000/1:47.6/25
7:12.0/6000/1:48.0/24
7:14.0/8000/1:48.5/23
7:10.4/10000/1:47.6/23
Fantastic result Keith.....really well done and a big milestone smashed.
6'2" 52yo
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Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » August 27th, 2020, 7:30 am

KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 2:11 pm
Finally!!....... Sub 36:00 10K.....35:54.4

<>
Brilliant work, Keith. You've been after this for a while, must be very satisfying.

I love it when a plan comes together...
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » August 27th, 2020, 8:27 am

iangallagher wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 12:04 am
KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 2:11 pm
Finally!!....... Sub 36:00 10K.....35:54.4

So, after a few failed attempts to reach the sub 36:00 goal I had a another try today. Interestingly, I felt good for the other attempts where today I was feeling a little more sluggish. I didn't sleep much last night and legs felt "ok" but I thought maybe today could be one of those surprise days. So, wanting to do a more intense piece no matter what, I decided to set the monitor to a 10K and start out like I was doing a TT and just see how it went. I swear having no expectations always seems better. I was ahead of pace as I got to 3K to go where I usually wobble but held the split. I actually wobbled some from 2k-1k to go but it was more about being cautious as I knew I still had a "sprint" in me. Was right on goal pace as I approached 500m to go and did the last 500m under 1:40. Overall pacing was still a little fast in the beginning but no giant drop off from goal pace so I am OK with it. Stroke rate was lower than planned but where I found the grove. I still think I can do better but very happy and now moving on to the 5K.

Time/Meters/Pace/SPM
35:54.4/10000/1:47.7/24

7:07.5/2000/1:46.8/26
7:10.6/4000/1:47.6/25
7:12.0/6000/1:48.0/24
7:14.0/8000/1:48.5/23
7:10.4/10000/1:47.6/23
Great result Keith and well deserved! I can’t comprehend rating that low but like you say - it works for you. Would flat out kill
Me if I tried! Looking forward to seeing you take
Some chunks off your 5k!
Thanks! The 5K will be interesting, may do a 4x2K 5'R next week to help guage where I might be. Seeing lots of reaction to my rating, I looked back at the 30 minute I just did and it was 25, so that is just where I do high 1:40s paces I guess. When we get to 5K I will still prob be like 26/27 but once we get to 2K I will be 30-32 and then high 30s for 1K.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » August 27th, 2020, 8:33 am

hjs wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 2:32 am
Dangerscouse wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 12:35 am
KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 4:26 pm
Now for the 5K.....should we dare say sub 17:00?!
:mrgreen: my initial reaction is, not a chance! But I said that about going much past sub 36, so maybe it could happen. I'll be very happy with 17:10 for now, and that should also translate into a faster 2k.

The 7-8k range in a 10k is where I always lost it, and that was the difference for me too.
Congrats Keith, the ones you have to work the most for are the best.

Re 5k think sub 17 is also sub 622. A 36 min 10 points to 17.20 ish. Best to prove that wrong :D
Yeah, I know that is aggressive but need to get Stu riled up. I do better from 5K down and my current 17:27 is really old (year and half) so I think 17:15 is doable but beyond that may be asking a bit much - guess I will find out. You are right that this was meant more as I had to work for it.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » August 27th, 2020, 8:36 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 12:35 am
KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 4:26 pm
Now for the 5K.....should we dare say sub 17:00?!
:mrgreen: my initial reaction is, not a chance! But I said that about going much past sub 36, so maybe it could happen. I'll be very happy with 17:10 for now, and that should also translate into a faster 2k.

The 7-8k range in a 10k is where I always lost it, and that was the difference for me too.
Yeah, my initial thought was maybe 17:15 knowing my current 5K is over a year and a half old. Sub 17:00 is a great long term goal but like you said so was the sub 36 for me especially.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » August 27th, 2020, 8:37 am

winniewinser wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 3:27 am
KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 2:11 pm
Finally!!....... Sub 36:00 10K.....35:54.4

So, after a few failed attempts to reach the sub 36:00 goal I had a another try today. Interestingly, I felt good for the other attempts where today I was feeling a little more sluggish. I didn't sleep much last night and legs felt "ok" but I thought maybe today could be one of those surprise days. So, wanting to do a more intense piece no matter what, I decided to set the monitor to a 10K and start out like I was doing a TT and just see how it went. I swear having no expectations always seems better. I was ahead of pace as I got to 3K to go where I usually wobble but held the split. I actually wobbled some from 2k-1k to go but it was more about being cautious as I knew I still had a "sprint" in me. Was right on goal pace as I approached 500m to go and did the last 500m under 1:40. Overall pacing was still a little fast in the beginning but no giant drop off from goal pace so I am OK with it. Stroke rate was lower than planned but where I found the grove. I still think I can do better but very happy and now moving on to the 5K.

Time/Meters/Pace/SPM
35:54.4/10000/1:47.7/24

7:07.5/2000/1:46.8/26
7:10.6/4000/1:47.6/25
7:12.0/6000/1:48.0/24
7:14.0/8000/1:48.5/23
7:10.4/10000/1:47.6/23
Fantastic result Keith.....really well done and a big milestone smashed.
Thanks Alex! Had to work for this one and test multiple times, some of the failures helped me learn though.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » August 27th, 2020, 8:39 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 7:30 am
KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 2:11 pm
Finally!!....... Sub 36:00 10K.....35:54.4

<>
Brilliant work, Keith. You've been after this for a while, must be very satisfying.

I love it when a plan comes together...
Thanks! Yes, this one took some building up to and then a few failed tests. Not really in my wheelhouse so very satisfied with it. Hope it all translated to faster 5K/2k/1K
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » August 27th, 2020, 8:46 am

Tandstad wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 3:08 am
hjs wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 2:32 am
Dangerscouse wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 12:35 am


:mrgreen: my initial reaction is, not a chance! But I said that about going much past sub 36, so maybe it could happen. I'll be very happy with 17:10 for now, and that should also translate into a faster 2k.

The 7-8k range in a 10k is where I always lost it, and that was the difference for me too.
Congrats Keith, the ones you have to work the most for are the best.

Re 5k think sub 17 is also sub 622. A 36 min 10 points to 17.20 ish. Best to prove that wrong :D
To provide some data from own experience with 5k/10k:
18.02.2020: 5k 17:04.9
14.03.2020: 10k 35:24.1
18.03.2020: 5k 16:44.5
14.04.2020: 10k 34:44.9

So I think you need to be close to 35.30 to have a shot at breaking 17 :)
Yeah, was "half" joking with the sub 17 but do expect to drop a good 10 seconds or more off time. I do better the lower we go but 5K is still a longer row. My best rows (like 1K) are shorter and not as aerobic. I will not be as stressed about a certain time for the 5K right now and just want to improve. In the end it all comes down to the 2K, so just hoping the improvements will end up helping the 2K score.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » August 27th, 2020, 1:50 pm

KeithT wrote:
August 27th, 2020, 8:33 am

Yeah, I know that is aggressive but need to get Stu riled up.
Hahahahahahahaha, love it!!! We'll be pushing each to faster and better I'm sure
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by nick rockliff » August 27th, 2020, 3:53 pm

KeithT wrote:
August 26th, 2020, 2:11 pm
Finally!!....... Sub 36:00 10K.....35:54.4

So, after a few failed attempts to reach the sub 36:00 goal I had a another try today. Interestingly, I felt good for the other attempts where today I was feeling a little more sluggish. I didn't sleep much last night and legs felt "ok" but I thought maybe today could be one of those surprise days. So, wanting to do a more intense piece no matter what, I decided to set the monitor to a 10K and start out like I was doing a TT and just see how it went. I swear having no expectations always seems better. I was ahead of pace as I got to 3K to go where I usually wobble but held the split. I actually wobbled some from 2k-1k to go but it was more about being cautious as I knew I still had a "sprint" in me. Was right on goal pace as I approached 500m to go and did the last 500m under 1:40. Overall pacing was still a little fast in the beginning but no giant drop off from goal pace so I am OK with it. Stroke rate was lower than planned but where I found the grove. I still think I can do better but very happy and now moving on to the 5K.

Time/Meters/Pace/SPM
35:54.4/10000/1:47.7/24

7:07.5/2000/1:46.8/26
7:10.6/4000/1:47.6/25
7:12.0/6000/1:48.0/24
7:14.0/8000/1:48.5/23
7:10.4/10000/1:47.6/23
Nice 10k and great PB, well done.
67 6' 4" 108kg
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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