This looks good!! There was time when my 30 minute PB was done at 20-22 but now I rate up more but haven't purposely done this workout for a while. Gives me a target to shoot for.Dangerscouse wrote: ↑July 8th, 2020, 1:12 pm
I need to not do 30r20 sessions more often. PB by 124m and it was January 5th the last time I have tried a TT for this session, and I think it's only my sixth ever 30r20 TT.
I was expecting to scrape in just over 8k as I have only done slow low rate sessions for months but it just felt like it was 'on' so I kept pulling. I faded near the end but no way near what I expected.
It looks like the competition from Ian has helped get me in the zone. I fully expect this to be beaten by Ian, so I might have to go again before the month's end.
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1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
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very impressive mate! im delighted for you!! strong all the way through!Dangerscouse wrote: ↑July 8th, 2020, 1:12 pm
I need to not do 30r20 sessions more often. PB by 124m and it was January 5th the last time I have tried a TT for this session, and I think it's only my sixth ever 30r20 TT.
I was expecting to scrape in just over 8k as I have only done slow low rate sessions for months but it just felt like it was 'on' so I kept pulling. I faded near the end but no way near what I expected.
It looks like the competition from Ian has helped get me in the zone. I fully expect this to be beaten by Ian, so I might have to go again before the month's end.
Well maybe before the month is up i'll have to give it another go. I really didnt feel like I had much left to give on mine. But now the challenge has been set...
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Very steong mate, well done!Dangerscouse wrote: ↑July 8th, 2020, 1:12 pm
I need to not do 30r20 sessions more often. PB by 124m and it was January 5th the last time I have tried a TT for this session, and I think it's only my sixth ever 30r20 TT.
I was expecting to scrape in just over 8k as I have only done slow low rate sessions for months but it just felt like it was 'on' so I kept pulling. I faded near the end but no way near what I expected.
It looks like the competition from Ian has helped get me in the zone. I fully expect this to be beaten by Ian, so I might have to go again before the month's end.
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LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
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iangallagher wrote: ↑July 8th, 2020, 7:25 pmvery impressive mate! im delighted for you!! strong all the way through!
Well maybe before the month is up i'll have to give it another go. I really didnt feel like I had much left to give on mine. But now the challenge has been set...
Thanks fellas. Low rates have always been a struggle for me so it's nice to see some improvement and the challenges being set are forcing me to raise my game.
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Wow, great improvement and fantastic new PBDangerscouse wrote: ↑July 8th, 2020, 1:12 pm
I need to not do 30r20 sessions more often. PB by 124m and it was January 5th the last time I have tried a TT for this session, and I think it's only my sixth ever 30r20 TT.
I was expecting to scrape in just over 8k as I have only done slow low rate sessions for months but it just felt like it was 'on' so I kept pulling. I faded near the end but no way near what I expected.
It looks like the competition from Ian has helped get me in the zone. I fully expect this to be beaten by Ian, so I might have to go again before the month's end.
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So much for not comparing to othersDangerscouse wrote: ↑July 9th, 2020, 3:24 amiangallagher wrote: ↑July 8th, 2020, 7:25 pmvery impressive mate! im delighted for you!! strong all the way through!
Well maybe before the month is up i'll have to give it another go. I really didnt feel like I had much left to give on mine. But now the challenge has been set...Thanks fellas. Low rates have always been a struggle for me so it's nice to see some improvement and the challenges being set are forcing me to raise my game.
Like mentioned on IG Stu, this is a really strong session, I would estimate it to be one of your very strongest PB's? I would just set a time and date for the sub36 10k asap, no way you will fail that on your current form!
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1K: 2:59(2020), 2K: 6:16(2020), 5K: 16:44(2020), 10K: 34:44(2020), 30min: 8743m(2020), 30r20: 8416(2020), 60min: 16851(2021) HM: 1:16:19(2020)
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Thanks Alex. The expected wall never really happened.
Hahaha, fair comment and thanks mate. I don't ever compare myself to people like you, for example, but I do think there is some benefit if you can compare to someone who does have similar results and chase after a tough target that is still potentially possible.
The competitive edge can equally blunt or sharpen your performance if you're not mindful about how you use it and it does take quite a lot of internal interrogation to confirm if you're letting your ego rule your decisions.
I think I'll give the 10k a go next week but we'll see how I feel
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Haha, I do it myself too Stu, all the time. I wish I didn't though, as I always stretch my aiming further and further, until the point where I keep disappointing myself, and end up with more HD's than new PB's.Dangerscouse wrote: ↑July 9th, 2020, 6:26 amThanks Alex. The expected wall never really happened.
Hahaha, fair comment and thanks mate. I don't ever compare myself to people like you, for example, but I do think there is some benefit if you can compare to someone who does have similar results and chase after a tough target that is still potentially possible.
The competitive edge can equally blunt or sharpen your performance if you're not mindful about how you use it and it does take quite a lot of internal interrogation to confirm if you're letting your ego rule your decisions.
I think I'll give the 10k a go next week but we'll see how I feel
You could easily start comparing yourself towards me, or at least set it as a target. While I have been stuck since my big Tour de PB's back in March/April, you(and Ian) have been closing the gap at a rapid pace. Your recent 30R20 shows that you are probably not more than 40-50 seconds behind my PB.
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1K: 2:59(2020), 2K: 6:16(2020), 5K: 16:44(2020), 10K: 34:44(2020), 30min: 8743m(2020), 30r20: 8416(2020), 60min: 16851(2021) HM: 1:16:19(2020)
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I dunno mate - i still shake my head in disbelief as I look at your PB's. I've been mapping out to target 5km again and there just seems no way in hell that sub 17 is possible at this stage - so your time there is particularly impressive. I know if i keep training it'll happen but i probably need to start being a bit more targeted and focussed with my sessions. But i'll keep going as I am for now, getting fitter just from doing what im doing so the serious stuff can wait just a bit longerTandstad wrote: ↑July 9th, 2020, 4:16 pmHaha, I do it myself too Stu, all the time. I wish I didn't though, as I always stretch my aiming further and further, until the point where I keep disappointing myself, and end up with more HD's than new PB's.Dangerscouse wrote: ↑July 9th, 2020, 6:26 amThanks Alex. The expected wall never really happened.
Hahaha, fair comment and thanks mate. I don't ever compare myself to people like you, for example, but I do think there is some benefit if you can compare to someone who does have similar results and chase after a tough target that is still potentially possible.
The competitive edge can equally blunt or sharpen your performance if you're not mindful about how you use it and it does take quite a lot of internal interrogation to confirm if you're letting your ego rule your decisions.
I think I'll give the 10k a go next week but we'll see how I feel
You could easily start comparing yourself towards me, or at least set it as a target. While I have been stuck since my big Tour de PB's back in March/April, you(and Ian) have been closing the gap at a rapid pace. Your recent 30R20 shows that you are probably not more than 40-50 seconds behind my PB.
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5000m
19:53.4 5,000m 1:59.3 206 1008 26 184
3:59.3 1,000m 1:59.6 204 1003 26 175
3:59.6 2,000m 1:59.8 204 1000 26 181
3:58.2 3,000m 1:59.1 207 1013 26 187
3:57.4 4,000m 1:58.7 209 1020 27 190
3:58.9 5,000m 1:59.4 205 1006 27 190
Previous:
22/03 - 22:04, 2:12.4, 27spm
05/04 - 21:33, 2:09.3, 24spm
21/04 - 21:05, 2:06.5, 25spm, 177 HR
25/05 - 20:43, 2:04.3, 24spm, 182 HR
Today - 19:53, 1:59.3, 26spm, 184 HR
I've been itching to tick the sub 20 5k off the list, so happy to get it done. It wasn't a good day however. This was meant to be a 95% effort, but it was probably the hardest row I've ever done. My max heart rate when rowing has been 191 and I hit 190 with over 4 minutes to go. It was not fun. Based on my 2k time (where I had a bad day as well), my equivalent 5k is 19:34, so it's quite a way off.
The last 3 time trials I've done (2k, 2k, and 5k), I've had a bad day. I've always had no problem giving a little extra on race day (running, crossfit, 1 rep maxes), but 3 times doesn't seem like a coincidence for rowing. I suspect it's something to do with my form. Maybe I just don't relax and start yanking with my arms or something. My HR after 1k today was 175 and after the first interval of my 4x1k last week was 175, but that was at 1:52 pace! I have similar comparisons for all 3 of the time trials where I have underachieved.
The takeaway for next time is to just let my stroke flow naturally and get into a rhythm.
19:53.4 5,000m 1:59.3 206 1008 26 184
3:59.3 1,000m 1:59.6 204 1003 26 175
3:59.6 2,000m 1:59.8 204 1000 26 181
3:58.2 3,000m 1:59.1 207 1013 26 187
3:57.4 4,000m 1:58.7 209 1020 27 190
3:58.9 5,000m 1:59.4 205 1006 27 190
Previous:
22/03 - 22:04, 2:12.4, 27spm
05/04 - 21:33, 2:09.3, 24spm
21/04 - 21:05, 2:06.5, 25spm, 177 HR
25/05 - 20:43, 2:04.3, 24spm, 182 HR
Today - 19:53, 1:59.3, 26spm, 184 HR
I've been itching to tick the sub 20 5k off the list, so happy to get it done. It wasn't a good day however. This was meant to be a 95% effort, but it was probably the hardest row I've ever done. My max heart rate when rowing has been 191 and I hit 190 with over 4 minutes to go. It was not fun. Based on my 2k time (where I had a bad day as well), my equivalent 5k is 19:34, so it's quite a way off.
The last 3 time trials I've done (2k, 2k, and 5k), I've had a bad day. I've always had no problem giving a little extra on race day (running, crossfit, 1 rep maxes), but 3 times doesn't seem like a coincidence for rowing. I suspect it's something to do with my form. Maybe I just don't relax and start yanking with my arms or something. My HR after 1k today was 175 and after the first interval of my 4x1k last week was 175, but that was at 1:52 pace! I have similar comparisons for all 3 of the time trials where I have underachieved.
The takeaway for next time is to just let my stroke flow naturally and get into a rhythm.
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100m: 16.7, 1': 337m, 500m: 1:33, 1k: 3:23, 2k: 7:17, 5k: 19:53, 6k: 23:58, 60': 14112m
100m: 16.7, 1': 337m, 500m: 1:33, 1k: 3:23, 2k: 7:17, 5k: 19:53, 6k: 23:58, 60': 14112m
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Lovely stuff, and that's a huge chunk off your former PB and a big milestone to break too.boomingaway wrote: ↑July 11th, 2020, 4:43 am5000m
19:53.4 5,000m 1:59.3 206 1008 26 184
3:59.3 1,000m 1:59.6 204 1003 26 175
3:59.6 2,000m 1:59.8 204 1000 26 181
3:58.2 3,000m 1:59.1 207 1013 26 187
3:57.4 4,000m 1:58.7 209 1020 27 190
3:58.9 5,000m 1:59.4 205 1006 27 190
Previous:
22/03 - 22:04, 2:12.4, 27spm
05/04 - 21:33, 2:09.3, 24spm
21/04 - 21:05, 2:06.5, 25spm, 177 HR
25/05 - 20:43, 2:04.3, 24spm, 182 HR
Today - 19:53, 1:59.3, 26spm, 184 HR
I've been itching to tick the sub 20 5k off the list, so happy to get it done. It wasn't a good day however. This was meant to be a 95% effort, but it was probably the hardest row I've ever done. My max heart rate when rowing has been 191 and I hit 190 with over 4 minutes to go. It was not fun. Based on my 2k time (where I had a bad day as well), my equivalent 5k is 19:34, so it's quite a way off.
The last 3 time trials I've done (2k, 2k, and 5k), I've had a bad day. I've always had no problem giving a little extra on race day (running, crossfit, 1 rep maxes), but 3 times doesn't seem like a coincidence for rowing. I suspect it's something to do with my form. Maybe I just don't relax and start yanking with my arms or something. My HR after 1k today was 175 and after the first interval of my 4x1k last week was 175, but that was at 1:52 pace! I have similar comparisons for all 3 of the time trials where I have underachieved.
The takeaway for next time is to just let my stroke flow naturally and get into a rhythm.
Finding the rhythm and stroke that is right for you is really important otherwise as the general effort is hard enough as it is without it not having a good flow to it.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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There it is ladies and gents, I can retire from erging now
This felt really good and I possibly could have squeezed more out but a 35 second increase on a PB for a distance that I have tried and failed many many times to beat over about 10 years is one of the sweetest feelings I have ever felt in sports.
Started off thinking I'm a bit fatigued from my 30r20 so take it relatively easy(ish) and see what happens, and this happened....
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
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About time too well done Stu, looks comfortable too.Dangerscouse wrote: ↑July 11th, 2020, 6:18 am
There it is ladies and gents, I can retire from erging now
This felt really good and I possibly could have squeezed more out but a 35 second increase on a PB for a distance that I have tried and failed many many times to beat over about 10 years is one of the sweetest feelings I have ever felt in sports.
Started off thinking I'm a bit fatigued from my 30r20 so take it relatively easy(ish) and see what happens, and this happened....
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PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6
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That's a very impressive 10k time Stu and 35 secs chipped off is quite something too.Dangerscouse wrote: ↑July 11th, 2020, 6:18 am
There it is ladies and gents, I can retire from erging now
This felt really good and I possibly could have squeezed more out but a 35 second increase on a PB for a distance that I have tried and failed many many times to beat over about 10 years is one of the sweetest feelings I have ever felt in sports.
Started off thinking I'm a bit fatigued from my 30r20 so take it relatively easy(ish) and see what happens, and this happened....
Big congrats on that super PB fella!!!!!
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Easy peasy. I would say the beginning, certainly more in you. Start out more agressive and rate a tad lower in the first half. Compare this your r20 stroke.Dangerscouse wrote: ↑July 11th, 2020, 6:18 am
There it is ladies and gents, I can retire from erging now
This felt really good and I possibly could have squeezed more out but a 35 second increase on a PB for a distance that I have tried and failed many many times to beat over about 10 years is one of the sweetest feelings I have ever felt in sports.
Started off thinking I'm a bit fatigued from my 30r20 so take it relatively easy(ish) and see what happens, and this happened....