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max_ratcliffe
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by max_ratcliffe » June 4th, 2020, 6:59 am
Dino wrote: ↑June 3rd, 2020, 7:39 pm
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This really is excellent work Max. Certainly leaving me for dust on the shorter distances!!!
Massive rate too. I could hold that SPM for about a minute before turning into a fish that has jumped out of its bowl!
Thanks Dino,
The slow rate training is going nowhere at the moment, but learning to rate up has made a big difference to my efforts in the short stuff. Henry made some comment a while ago along the lines of "why would you try to row like a tall heavyweight if you're short" that struck home.
I will be interested to see if I can extend the higher rate stroke to 2k (not 35spm - that would definitely end in an HD), but not 26spm either.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
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KeithT
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by KeithT » June 4th, 2020, 5:48 pm
Tony Cook wrote: ↑June 3rd, 2020, 6:36 pm
8,038 in 30 minutes @ 20spm. Really please to have cracked the 8k barrier.
Then I see Stu goes quicker for twice that time! Well done.
This is a big milestone, way to go!
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41
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DavidA
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by DavidA » June 5th, 2020, 2:39 pm
Tony Cook wrote: ↑June 3rd, 2020, 6:36 pm
8,038 in 30 minutes @ 20spm. Really please to have cracked the 8k barrier.
Then I see Stu goes quicker for twice that time! Well done.
Congratulations!
Breaking 8 k is big deal.
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Tony Cook
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by Tony Cook » June 5th, 2020, 4:41 pm
10 seconds off my 10k time.
OK it’s only my second time at it and the first time I just wanted to see if I could come in under 40mins.
This time I did it as part of the Heptathlon Challenge and as it was the first event I took it steady. Looks like I may have to ‘pain up’ and have a proper crack at it.
Born 1963 6' 5" 100Kg
PBs from 2020 - 100m 15.7s - 1min 355m - 500m 1:28.4 - 1k 3:10.6 - 2k 6:31.6 - 5k 17:34.9 - 6k 20:57.5 - 30min @ 20SPM 8,336m - 10k 36:28.0 - 1 hour 16,094m - HM 1:18:51.7
2021 - 5k 17:26 - FM 2:53:37.0
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by mict450 » June 5th, 2020, 4:51 pm
Important milestone, Tony. Well done!!
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by iangallagher » June 6th, 2020, 12:38 am
This was totally unexpected as I did my neck in yesterday and could barely move - so hardly slept and was hobbling about all morning. As the morning wore on I loosened up a little but I resigned myself to a few days off. Out of interest, i did jump on the rower for 3 seconds at a low drag just to see how it felt. If i stayed completely rigid it was ok.
Anyway, big lunch of fish and chips and I was just about to settle down for the arvo - when the baby went off for a sleep. I thought i cant miss this opportunity so i'll go in the garage and just do a light and easy 10km to get the blood moving - as it might help with recovery.
Low and behold the session was feeling good and I was feeling better and better as it was progressing. I settled on a higher Stroke rate than normal and was just playing around doing rate ladders to keep things interesting. It was only when i go to 8km I saw that i might be able to sneak under 37 minutes if I pushed.
Thats a 58 second improvement in 4 days and my best before that was 38.31 from the start of May. Well chuffed!
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
36:55.7 10,000m 1:50.7 257 1185 25 167
7:32.9 2,000m 1:53.2 241 1129 23 156
7:22.0 4,000m 1:50.5 259 1192 25 161
7:28.8 6,000m 1:52.2 248 1152 25 166
7:22.5 8,000m 1:50.6 259 1189 26 174
7:09.4 10,000m 1:47.3 283 1273 29 182
182cm; 89kg; 1km = 2.57.5; 2km = 6.19; 4mins = 1296; 5km = 16.49; 6km = 20.24; 30mins = 8605; 10km= 35.31; 60 minutes = 16205 HM = 1:18.50
Erging since May 2020
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by Tandstad » June 6th, 2020, 1:05 am
iangallagher wrote: ↑June 6th, 2020, 12:38 am
This was totally unexpected as I did my neck in yesterday and could barely move - so hardly slept and was hobbling about all morning. As the morning wore on I loosened up a little but I resigned myself to a few days off. Out of interest, i did jump on the rower for 3 seconds at a low drag just to see how it felt. If i stayed completely rigid it was ok.
Anyway, big lunch of fish and chips and I was just about to settle down for the arvo - when the baby went off for a sleep. I thought i cant miss this opportunity so i'll go in the garage and just do a light and easy 10km to get the blood moving - as it might help with recovery.
Low and behold the session was feeling good and I was feeling better and better as it was progressing. I settled on a higher Stroke rate than normal and was just playing around doing rate ladders to keep things interesting. It was only when i go to 8km I saw that i might be able to sneak under 37 minutes if I pushed.
Thats a 58 second improvement in 4 days and my best before that was 38.31 from the start of May. Well chuffed!
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
36:55.7 10,000m 1:50.7 257 1185 25 167
7:32.9 2,000m 1:53.2 241 1129 23 156
7:22.0 4,000m 1:50.5 259 1192 25 161
7:28.8 6,000m 1:52.2 248 1152 25 166
7:22.5 8,000m 1:50.6 259 1189 26 174
7:09.4 10,000m 1:47.3 283 1273 29 182
Wow great job Ian, really strong time at a low rate
funny how when you are not expecting to do good, it seems like all tention is removed, and suddenly you get a PB! Very strong last 2k too.
39YO, 188 cm, 115 kg, NOR. Instagram: jtands
1K: 2:59(2020), 2K: 6:16(2020), 5K: 16:44(2020), 10K: 34:44(2020), 30min: 8743m(2020), 30r20: 8416(2020), 60min: 16851(2021) HM: 1:16:19(2020)
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MartinSH4321
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by MartinSH4321 » June 6th, 2020, 2:38 am
iangallagher wrote: ↑June 6th, 2020, 12:38 am
This was totally unexpected as I did my neck in yesterday and could barely move - so hardly slept and was hobbling about all morning. As the morning wore on I loosened up a little but I resigned myself to a few days off. Out of interest, i did jump on the rower for 3 seconds at a low drag just to see how it felt. If i stayed completely rigid it was ok.
Anyway, big lunch of fish and chips and I was just about to settle down for the arvo - when the baby went off for a sleep. I thought i cant miss this opportunity so i'll go in the garage and just do a light and easy 10km to get the blood moving - as it might help with recovery.
Low and behold the session was feeling good and I was feeling better and better as it was progressing. I settled on a higher Stroke rate than normal and was just playing around doing rate ladders to keep things interesting. It was only when i go to 8km I saw that i might be able to sneak under 37 minutes if I pushed.
Thats a 58 second improvement in 4 days and my best before that was 38.31 from the start of May. Well chuffed!
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
36:55.7 10,000m 1:50.7 257 1185 25 167
7:32.9 2,000m 1:53.2 241 1129 23 156
7:22.0 4,000m 1:50.5 259 1192 25 161
7:28.8 6,000m 1:52.2 248 1152 25 166
7:22.5 8,000m 1:50.6 259 1189 26 174
7:09.4 10,000m 1:47.3 283 1273 29 182
Well done Ian, a lot of great performances (and more to come for sure)!
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42
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Dangerscouse
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by Dangerscouse » June 6th, 2020, 3:47 am
Tony Cook wrote: ↑June 5th, 2020, 4:41 pm
10 seconds off my 10k time.
OK it’s only my second time at it and the first time I just wanted to see if I could come in under 40mins.
This time I did it as part of the Heptathlon Challenge and as it was the first event I took it steady. Looks like I may have to ‘pain up’ and have a proper crack at it.
10 secs improvement, with obvious reluctance to go too hard, is a great result.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
"You reap what you row"
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by Dangerscouse » June 6th, 2020, 3:51 am
iangallagher wrote: ↑June 6th, 2020, 12:38 am
This was totally unexpected as I did my neck in yesterday and could barely move - so hardly slept and was hobbling about all morning. As the morning wore on I loosened up a little but I resigned myself to a few days off. Out of interest, i did jump on the rower for 3 seconds at a low drag just to see how it felt. If i stayed completely rigid it was ok.
Anyway, big lunch of fish and chips and I was just about to settle down for the arvo - when the baby went off for a sleep. I thought i cant miss this opportunity so i'll go in the garage and just do a light and easy 10km to get the blood moving - as it might help with recovery.
Low and behold the session was feeling good and I was feeling better and better as it was progressing. I settled on a higher Stroke rate than normal and was just playing around doing rate ladders to keep things interesting. It was only when i go to 8km I saw that i might be able to sneak under 37 minutes if I pushed.
Thats a 58 second improvement in 4 days and my best before that was 38.31 from the start of May. Well chuffed!
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
36:55.7 10,000m 1:50.7 257 1185 25 167
7:32.9 2,000m 1:53.2 241 1129 23 156
7:22.0 4,000m 1:50.5 259 1192 25 161
7:28.8 6,000m 1:52.2 248 1152 25 166
7:22.5 8,000m 1:50.6 259 1189 26 174
7:09.4 10,000m 1:47.3 283 1273 29 182
I'm really not sure how you're doing it; short and long distances, injuries and all whilst you're still getting used to rowing
You're clearly a natural athlete especially given your running PBs too.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km
"You reap what you row"
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winniewinser
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by winniewinser » June 6th, 2020, 5:05 am
Tony Cook wrote: ↑June 5th, 2020, 4:41 pm
10 seconds off my 10k time.
OK it’s only my second time at it and the first time I just wanted to see if I could come in under 40mins.
This time I did it as part of the Heptathlon Challenge and as it was the first event I took it steady. Looks like I may have to ‘pain up’ and have a proper crack at it.
Well done Tony, great progress!
iangallagher wrote: ↑June 6th, 2020, 12:38 am
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Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
36:55.7 10,000m 1:50.7 257 1185 25 167
7:32.9 2,000m 1:53.2 241 1129 23 156
7:22.0 4,000m 1:50.5 259 1192 25 161
7:28.8 6,000m 1:52.2 248 1152 25 166
7:22.5 8,000m 1:50.6 259 1189 26 174
7:09.4 10,000m 1:47.3 283 1273 29 182
Another great PB....just knocking everything out the park right now and good to see the niggling injury didn't come to much.
6'2" 52yo
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)
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max_ratcliffe
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by max_ratcliffe » June 6th, 2020, 8:08 am
Tony Cook wrote: ↑June 5th, 2020, 4:41 pm
10 seconds off my 10k time.
OK it’s only my second time at it and the first time I just wanted to see if I could come in under 40mins.
This time I did it as part of the Heptathlon Challenge and as it was the first event I took it steady. Looks like I may have to ‘pain up’ and have a proper crack at it.
Any PB is worth shouting about. Well done.
iangallagher wrote: ↑June 6th, 2020, 12:38 am
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Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
36:55.7 10,000m 1:50.7 257 1185 25 167
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Preposterous! To put in this sort of effort while injured is pretty special. Nice work.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
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max_ratcliffe
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by max_ratcliffe » June 6th, 2020, 8:15 am
Planning on an hour of steady state, but got a bit sidetracked with yard work, so had a crack at the ugly step child as part of the heptathlon.
Bare bones:
6000, 23:23.8, 1:56.9
1k splits:
3:52.2, 3:53.2, 3:53.2, 3:53.9, 4:00.8, 3:49.4
Chimp was agitating a lot with 2k to go, so I slowed down between 1500 and 1000 to go.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24
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Dino
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by Dino » June 6th, 2020, 8:43 am
max_ratcliffe wrote: ↑June 6th, 2020, 8:15 am
Planning on an hour of steady state, but got a bit sidetracked with yard work, so had a crack at the ugly step child as part of the heptathlon.
Bare bones:
6000, 23:23.8, 1:56.9
1k splits:
3:52.2, 3:53.2, 3:53.2, 3:53.9, 4:00.8, 3:49.4
Chimp was agitating a lot with 2k to go, so I slowed down between 1500 and 1000 to go.
Nice one Max! Done me again too!!
By my reckoning according to your signature that's 2 x PB for the price of 1 as you would have gone through 5k in 19:33?
If you target 5k you must be looking at ~19:25 now
56M HWT
50+PB 1m 326m, 500m 1:38,7, 1k 3:31.6, 2k 7:16.8, 5k 19:06.6, 6k 23:26.0, 30m 7730m, 10k 39:26.1, 60m 15025m, HM 1:25:04.7, 34.2k OTW 3:52:00, FM 2:59:26.0, 50k 3:49:17.3
A long way away from any of these PBs now!!
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winniewinser
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by winniewinser » June 6th, 2020, 9:23 am
max_ratcliffe wrote: ↑June 6th, 2020, 8:15 am
Planning on an hour of steady state, but got a bit sidetracked with yard work, so had a crack at the ugly step child as part of the heptathlon.
Bare bones:
6000, 23:23.8, 1:56.9
1k splits:
3:52.2, 3:53.2, 3:53.2, 3:53.9, 4:00.8, 3:49.4
Chimp was agitating a lot with 2k to go, so I slowed down between 1500 and 1000 to go.
Nice and consistent with a fast last.... congrats mate
6'2" 52yo
Alex
Recent 2k - 7:19
All time 2k - 6:50.2 (LW)