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Re: Forum Flyers

Post by tonomonic » June 4th, 2020, 8:53 am

Slothful1 wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 2:01 am
Hi tonomonic

Thanks for the background, but please add a bit more if you're comfortable - first name, rough age range, location, etc. are always helpful to the other members. We are spread across the world, but it's good to find some new locations (or even be surprised that you're near another team member).
Oh yeah, sorry about that.

My name is Mike. I'm currently in my late 30's residing in Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada. I'm a computer programmer by day. Aside from the rower, I still lift weights, ride my mountain bike and a peloton indoor bike, as well as do a lot of yard work!

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Re: Forum Flyers

Post by tonomonic » June 4th, 2020, 2:08 pm

rtbrouwer wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 3:01 am
tonomonic wrote:
June 3rd, 2020, 11:20 pm
Hey everyone. I've just started using the online logbook for the June heptathlon and am looking for a virtual club affiliation. I've been reading your team thread here and you all seem pretty fun and knowledgeable. Mind if I tag along?

A bit about me. I have a cycling background, but have been focused on powerlifting for the last few years. Owned the erg for a while but mostly used it for warm-ups and the odd 2k test. I've stopped lifting heavy weights in the last few months and have been doing more cardio which is when I rediscovered the rower and the online challenges.

I'm a bit of a data geek and having the metrics, rankings, and some goals to shoot for is pretty exciting at this point.
Welcome aboard. Glad to have you! From personal experience I can tell you that a cycling background in combination with a couple of powerlifting is a good base for the erg :-) Very curious to see what PB's you'll be able to set...
Here's where I'm at now. What I've found so far is that this is way different than cycling in that it takes much longer to accumulate fatigue, so a pace that feels totally comfortable for a 5 minutes is excruciating at 8 minutes.

06/04/20 5,285m 20:00.0 1:53.5 Rower Hwt View workout Edit workout
06/03/20 10,000m 38:46.3 1:56.3 Rower Hwt View workout Edit workout
06/02/20 345m 1:00.0 1:26.9 Rower Hwt View workout Edit workout
06/01/20 1,000m 3:18.8 1:39.4 Rower Hwt View workout Edit workout
05/26/20 4,000m 14:44.1 1:50.5 Rower Hwt View workout Edit workout
05/17/20 4,000m 14:59.1 1:52.3 Rower Hwt View workout Edit workout
05/16/20 2,000m 7:07.3 1:46.8 Rower Hwt View workout

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Re: Forum Flyers

Post by jackarabit » June 4th, 2020, 3:23 pm

Welcome Mike! Not for the good stuff @ 1k and especially 10k and edging toward sub7 tookay but just because you’re you. 👍
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Re: Forum Flyers

Post by Slothful1 » June 5th, 2020, 1:25 am

tonomonic wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 8:53 am
My name is Mike. I'm currently in my late 30's residing in Maple Ridge, British Columbia, Canada. I'm a computer programmer by day. Aside from the rower, I still lift weights, ride my mountain bike and a peloton indoor bike, as well as do a lot of yard work!
Thanks Mike. Some good looking times that you've posted already, and I'm sure they'll come down quickly as you refine your pacing and technique.

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Post by Slothful1 » June 5th, 2020, 1:30 am

Tandstad wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 4:26 am
Any room for a couch potato in your team? :)
Welcome aboard! At least I can beat you at something - with your rowing times I can outdo your couch potatoing by a long way!

Check the new member guide out a couple of posts before yours, and please let us know your first name (unless it is your forum name :)). Looking forward to your contribution to current and future challenges, and if you can recruit any females into our Cross Team Challenge boats, they're always needed.

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Re: Forum Flyers

Post by Tandstad » June 5th, 2020, 3:11 am

meerkats wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 6:17 am
Tandstad wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 4:26 am
Any room for a couch potato in your team? :)
I question your couch potato classification :D

BUt if you are a couch potato, i'd hate to see the results when you get off it??

You are more tan welcome to join us :D
MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 7:15 am
Tandstad wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 4:26 am
Any room for a couch potato in your team? :)
Of course mate! :D
lindsayh wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 7:29 am
Tandstad wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 4:26 am
Any room for a couch potato in your team? :)
Welcome indeed - I have seen your numbers and there isn't a potato in sight although your highly evolved rowing man cave probably has somewhere to flop after training. The average age of the FF members is continuing to fall - great news and pretty exciting.
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June 5th, 2020, 1:30 am
Tandstad wrote:
June 4th, 2020, 4:26 am
Any room for a couch potato in your team? :)
Welcome aboard! At least I can beat you at something - with your rowing times I can outdo your couch potatoing by a long way!

Check the new member guide out a couple of posts before yours, and please let us know your first name (unless it is your forum name :)). Looking forward to your contribution to current and future challenges, and if you can recruit any females into our Cross Team Challenge boats, they're always needed.

Dave
Thanks a lot everyone, I have always felt welcome here on the forums, so felt natural to join the team!

My name is Jo André, living in the northwestern part of Norway(right across the fjord from Aalesund). Married and have two boys at age 2 and 5(3 and 6 within the next two months). Been competing in different sports like table tennis(20 years+), soccer, judo, track and field, terrain bike races, and also been competing in mountain running races for the last 14 years(more or less). Always been quite competitive. Started erging in November 2019 when I bought my C2 rower, and been progressing good since.

I am most comfortable with distances between 2k and 60 mins, that is where I can best utilize my aerobic engine. I am definitely worst at sprinting, and this will probably not be something I prioritize either. In March 2017 I blew my knee during heavy squats, got so bad I could not drive a car or walk normally for some time, so the highest rates is likely to wreck my knee again.

I work as a Project manager within the Maritime sector, providing vessels with internet/telephony via satellite. Educated as a furniture carpenter, and enjoy making different DIY projects and remodeling our house on my spare time. I am also a audiophile and home cinema-phile.

I always say my motto is "The only thing I am better at than training, is eating", hence the high body weight :lol:

Looking forward to trying some CTC challenges :) The June challenge is interesting!
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1K: 2:59(2020), 2K: 6:16(2020), 5K: 16:44(2020), 10K: 34:44(2020), 30min: 8743m(2020), 30r20: 8416(2020), 60min: 16851(2021) HM: 1:16:19(2020)

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Re: Forum Flyers

Post by rtbrouwer » June 5th, 2020, 7:23 am

Tandstad wrote:
June 5th, 2020, 3:11 am
Thanks a lot everyone, I have always felt welcome here on the forums, so felt natural to join the team!

My name is Jo André, living in the northwestern part of Norway(right across the fjord from Aalesund). Married and have two boys at age 2 and 5(3 and 6 within the next two months). Been competing in different sports like table tennis(20 years+), soccer, judo, track and field, terrain bike races, and also been competing in mountain running races for the last 14 years(more or less). Always been quite competitive. Started erging in November 2019 when I bought my C2 rower, and been progressing good since.

I am most comfortable with distances between 2k and 60 mins, that is where I can best utilize my aerobic engine. I am definitely worst at sprinting, and this will probably not be something I prioritize either. In March 2017 I blew my knee during heavy squats, got so bad I could not drive a car or walk normally for some time, so the highest rates is likely to wreck my knee again.

I work as a Project manager within the Maritime sector, providing vessels with internet/telephony via satellite. Educated as a furniture carpenter, and enjoy making different DIY projects and remodeling our house on my spare time. I am also a audiophile and home cinema-phile.

I always say my motto is "The only thing I am better at than training, is eating", hence the high body weight :lol:

Looking forward to trying some CTC challenges :) The June challenge is interesting!
Welcome on board! I've been seeing your posts in the training forum for quite a while. You will surely help get us at higher positions in all the competitions :-)

And you are right, the June challenge looks like a real challenge. Think i'll do an "easy" effort on the june challenge today just to get the first boat floating and have a score up. But still a bit tired from my heptathlon yesterday (26k in one sitting).
PB: 500m 1:24.8 - 1k 3:13 - 2k 6:48 - 5k 18:17 - 6k 21:57 - 30m 8064m - 10k 38:09 60m 15771 HM 1:20:45
SB: 500m 0:00.0 - 1k 0:00 - 2k 0:00 - 5k 18:17 - 6k 21:57 - 30m 0000m - 10k 00:00 60m 00000 HM 0:00:00

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Re: Forum Flyers

Post by rtbrouwer » June 5th, 2020, 8:32 am

Just put in a time for the June CTC to get an idea of the pacing. came to total of 4602m.
7:00 @ 1:45.9 for 1983m
5:00 @ 1:45.3 for 1424m
3:00 @ 1:43.6 for 868m
1:00 @ 1:31.4 for 328m

My idea was to go pretty fast on the first 7 minutes because that is almost 50% of the race and I didn't want to leave to much on the table there. Went slightly faster on the second part. Again a little bit faster on the 3:00 and everything I had left on the last minute.

Would be interesting to see what happens if I go a bit easier on the first 7. Will I make up the lost time on the "shorter" sections because I am fresher? I think I can gain a lot on the 3:00 piece but was too tired in this case to go sub 1:40 there.
PB: 500m 1:24.8 - 1k 3:13 - 2k 6:48 - 5k 18:17 - 6k 21:57 - 30m 8064m - 10k 38:09 60m 15771 HM 1:20:45
SB: 500m 0:00.0 - 1k 0:00 - 2k 0:00 - 5k 18:17 - 6k 21:57 - 30m 0000m - 10k 00:00 60m 00000 HM 0:00:00

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Post by jackarabit » June 6th, 2020, 12:32 pm

@Ronald Brouwer:
20 Watt deficit from your 2k av. watts to this tripartite gasper with declining distances and middling, one size fits all rest. I don’t consider the final 1’ after a 2’ nap as presenting much difficulty for most—including the Aged and Infirm (me). I would opt for bat out of hell for 7’ and try to maintain flat pace or slightly deteriorating positive thru 3’, rely on the naptastic energy resupply to the a-lactic system for final minute. My opinion you chose right the first time and maybe something more to be wrung out.

BICBWrong! Energy expenditure per 1” pace improvement is of greater significance above 300watt power than below 200, so maybe keeping an eye on the fuel gauge and backloading is necessary. Don’t want to stick an empty tank short of wheelsdown!
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Re: Forum Flyers

Post by jackarabit » June 6th, 2020, 5:08 pm

Metric Mile for C2 Heptathlon: flameout @ 2.5’, restart engine and pull up! 🤬

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Re: Forum Flyers

Post by lindsayh » June 7th, 2020, 2:19 am

jackarabit wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 12:32 pm
@Ronald Brouwer:
20 Watt deficit from your 2k av. watts to this tripartite gasper with declining distances and middling, one size fits all rest. I don’t consider the final 1’ after a 2’ nap as presenting much difficulty for most—including the Aged and Infirm (me). I would opt for bat out of hell for 7’ and try to maintain flat pace or slightly deteriorating positive thru 3’, rely on the naptastic energy resupply to the a-lactic system for final minute. My opinion you chose right the first time and maybe something more to be wrung out.
BICBWrong! Energy expenditure per 1” pace improvement is of greater significance above 300watt power than below 200, so maybe keeping an eye on the fuel gauge and backloading is necessary. Don’t want to stick an empty tank short of wheelsdown!
Jack I have just checked Google translate and there isn't a "jackspeak" option for poor Ronald but that being said I agree - Ronald the best way is to go hard on the longer ones because you have more to lose there and less to gain on the shorter no matter how hard you push it. You got it just right.
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Post by Slothful1 » June 7th, 2020, 5:40 am

Haven't done a mile for some time, but it always surprises me when I do. You go in being grateful that it's shorter than a 2km, so won't be as intimidating, but the usual fly and die overconfidence always comes along and beats me across the top of the thighs!

I chickened out of the rowing version, and instead chose to do the BikeErg heptathlon. The way the week ended up working, I scheduled all the events for Saturday to coincide partly with a one hour group ride on Zwift. In the end it turned into a 2 hour ride because once I'd ticked off the last of the 7 events I thought I was a couple of minutes from completing one of the Zwift climbs, and then it turned out to be another 20 minutes or so until I could get to the downhill freewheeling to rack up a few extra Zwift XP points.

Enjoyed the variety of the session after a busy week at work killed off my training motivation, so all good.

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Post by lindsayh » June 7th, 2020, 8:00 am

Slothful1 wrote:
June 7th, 2020, 5:40 am
Enjoyed the variety of the session after a busy week at work killed off my training motivation, so all good.
Dave
The heptathlon captured a lot of attention Dave - well done -- just didn't get any time at it this week
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PBs (65y+) 1 min 349m, 500m 1:29.8, 1k 3:11.7 2k 6:47.4, 5km 18:07.9, 30' 7928m, 10k 37:57.2, 60' 15368m

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Re: Forum Flyers

Post by jackarabit » June 7th, 2020, 12:03 pm

lindsayh wrote:
June 7th, 2020, 2:19 am
jackarabit wrote:
June 6th, 2020, 12:32 pm
@Ronald Brouwer:
20 Watt deficit from your 2k av. watts to this tripartite gasper with declining distances and middling, one size fits all rest. I don’t consider the final 1’ after a 2’ nap as presenting much difficulty for most—including the Aged and Infirm (me). I would opt for bat out of hell for 7’ and try to maintain flat pace or slightly deteriorating positive thru 3’, rely on the naptastic energy resupply to the a-lactic system for final minute. My opinion you chose right the first time and maybe something more to be wrung out.
BICBWrong! Energy expenditure per 1” pace improvement is of greater significance above 300watt power than below 200, so maybe keeping an eye on the fuel gauge and backloading is necessary. Don’t want to stick an empty tank short of wheelsdown!
Jack I have just checked Google translate and there isn't a "jackspeak" option for poor Ronald but that being said I agree - Ronald the best way is to go hard on the longer ones because you have more to lose there and less to gain on the shorter no matter how hard you push it. You got it just right.
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Post by Marcvo17 » June 8th, 2020, 10:57 pm

Hey, Forum Flyers. Hope it is ok, I just joined your team. You seem like an open and active team...serious but not too serious. I live in the US...but lived in London and Geneva for 10 years...and it is nice being on a team with members from across the global.

My name is Marc Voorhees. I am 65 years old. I am a little over 5’ 9” and “lightweight” so I have to work extra hard to keep up with you. What I lack in physical stature, I hopefully make up in effort.

I was avid runner (marathons and such). But tore my meniscus last year, and that ended my running. Then turned to swimming, but then COVID closed the pools. So I now turn to indoor rowing. Just started to get serious with it at the end of April. Love it. Easy on the joints and something I can do every day. Although I do find the term “lightweight” a bit condescending 🤨

My goals for this season: (1) - average 10K meters per day every day, (2) finished at least in top 25% of all of my ranked Concept2 distances (albeit in my “old man” age group), (3) complete all of the Concept 2 challenges and (4) complete the Cross Team Challenge each month. Although if this month’s CTC is any indication, I think “surviving” each challenge is a better description.

I will follow along on this chat board. Likely an infrequent poster. But hope to pick up some advice for my new teammates by following along.

Regards,
—Marc

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