New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

[winniewinser]

Huge jump in meters - very well done!

Cheers Keith

[max_ratcliffe]

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Still..

Don,t sell yourself short. 1.03 is elite level, never seen a screen below 1.01...

You really should easily get below 3, and 2.50 would ofcourse take training. But for a 1.03 max pace still no super fast.

Out of interest, do elite 2k rowers have these sorts of LP numbers, or is that only the domain of the Phill Clapps of the world?

[rtbrouwer]

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Still..

Don,t sell yourself short. 1.03 is elite level, never seen a screen below 1.01...

You really should easily get below 3, and 2.50 would ofcourse take training. But for a 1.03 max pace still no super fast.

Out of interest, do elite 2k rowers have these sorts of LP numbers, or is that only the domain of the Phill Clapps of the world?

I know Cam Buchan (5:49 2k) has a max pull of around 1:10..
I think (but that's just a guess/feeling) most olympic rowers pull 1:08-1:10 ish. 1:01 - 1:03 is only for strongmen and dedicated sprint ergers.

[hjs]

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Still..

Don,t sell yourself short. 1.03 is elite level, never seen a screen below 1.01...

You really should easily get below 3, and 2.50 would ofcourse take training. But for a 1.03 max pace still no super fast.

Out of interest, do elite 2k rowers have these sorts of LP numbers, or is that only the domain of the Phill Clapps of the world?

Its mostly not usefull for them, over 2k Lowpull means little. Its also differs a lot, I have seen guys pull 1.04 ish, but others don,t even think about testing it.
Other point, for beginners low pull is an important marker. Very telling about ones potential.

Re Cam Buch, have seen him pull below 1.10. Do you guys know he is 6.9 2.06m? He does not look so tall, but 6.9 is being a building

[winniewinser]

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Still..

Don,t sell yourself short. 1.03 is elite level, never seen a screen below 1.01...

You really should easily get below 3, and 2.50 would ofcourse take training. But for a 1.03 max pace still no super fast.

Out of interest, do elite 2k rowers have these sorts of LP numbers, or is that only the domain of the Phill Clapps of the world?

Its mostly not usefull for them, over 2k Lowpull means little. Its also differs a lot, I have seen guys pull 1.04 ish, but others don,t even think about testing it.
Other point, for beginners low pull is an important marker. Very telling about ones potential.

Re Cam Buch, have seen him pull below 1.10. Do you guys know he is 6.9 2.06m? He does not look so tall, but 6.9 is being a building

Not that I am going to try this but how is that measured? What is the setup? Not seen or heard of that in my limited time.

[MartinSH4321]

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Still..

Don,t sell yourself short. 1.03 is elite level, never seen a screen below 1.01...

You really should easily get below 3, and 2.50 would ofcourse take training. But for a 1.03 max pace still no super fast.

Out of interest, do elite 2k rowers have these sorts of LP numbers, or is that only the domain of the Phill Clapps of the world?

Its mostly not usefull for them, over 2k Lowpull means little. Its also differs a lot, I have seen guys pull 1.04 ish, but others don,t even think about testing it.
Other point, for beginners low pull is an important marker. Very telling about ones potential.

Re Cam Buch, have seen him pull below 1.10. Do you guys know he is 6.9 2.06m? He does not look so tall, but 6.9 is being a building

In a comment to one of his vlogs a guy posted he can do a LP of 1.06 (the guy wasn't me ) and Cam answered his LP is about the same. I estimate he didn't optimise all parameters to get the best LP (high feet, max drag...), in one of his vids we also did a 14.1'' 100m without weights on the erg front, the erg slipped a lot if I remember right. As you said, I think that's nothing most elite rowers care about and therefore don't test it.

[MartinSH4321]

Out of interest, do elite 2k rowers have these sorts of LP numbers, or is that only the domain of the Phill Clapps of the world?

Its mostly not usefull for them, over 2k Lowpull means little. Its also differs a lot, I have seen guys pull 1.04 ish, but others don,t even think about testing it.
Other point, for beginners low pull is an important marker. Very telling about ones potential.

Re Cam Buch, have seen him pull below 1.10. Do you guys know he is 6.9 2.06m? He does not look so tall, but 6.9 is being a building

Not that I am going to try this but how is that measured? What is the setup? Not seen or heard of that in my limited time.

I measured my LP during a 100m TT, strokes 4- ca. 8 are the fastest. I would say you also can just grab the handle and do some easier strokes, than 5-6 strokes a hard as you can, but as all strokes at 100m are all out (at least for me) there's no difference I think.
What works best for me:
- drag as high as possible
- feet as high as possible
- weights on the front of the erg
- shorts with good grip on the seat

[winniewinser]

Its mostly not usefull for them, over 2k Lowpull means little. Its also differs a lot, I have seen guys pull 1.04 ish, but others don,t even think about testing it.
Other point, for beginners low pull is an important marker. Very telling about ones potential.

Re Cam Buch, have seen him pull below 1.10. Do you guys know he is 6.9 2.06m? He does not look so tall, but 6.9 is being a building

Not that I am going to try this but how is that measured? What is the setup? Not seen or heard of that in my limited time.

I measured my LP during a 100m TT, strokes 4- ca. 8 are the fastest. I would say you also can just grab the handle and do some easier strokes, than 5-6 strokes a hard as you can, but as all strokes at 100m are all out (at least for me) there's no difference I think.
What works best for me:
- drag as high as possible
- feet as high as possible
- weights on the front of the erg
- shorts with good grip on the seat

So it's basically the lowest split you've ever seen on the screen.,....mines rubbish in that case

[rtbrouwer]

So it's basically the lowest split you've ever seen on the screen.,....mines rubbish in that case

that's exactly what it is is. It's the LOWest split you can PULL. Low Pull.

[hjs]

Not that I am going to try this but how is that measured? What is the setup? Not seen or heard of that in my limited time.

I measured my LP during a 100m TT, strokes 4- ca. 8 are the fastest. I would say you also can just grab the handle and do some easier strokes, than 5-6 strokes a hard as you can, but as all strokes at 100m are all out (at least for me) there's no difference I think.
What works best for me:
- drag as high as possible
- feet as high as possible
- weights on the front of the erg
- shorts with good grip on the seat

So it's basically the lowest split you've ever seen on the screen.,....mines rubbish in that case

Yes, and it makes sence to use watts instead of pace, thats would be more precise. But simply put its the most power you can get into the chain. Some people, often weak ones , call it a circus trick. Its not ofcourse. Its raw base power.

[winniewinser]

Yes, and it makes sence to use watts instead of pace, thats would be more precise. But simply put its the most power you can get into the chain. Some people, often weak ones , call it a circus trick. Its not ofcourse. Its raw base power.

Think I'll be leaving that to the bigger boys then

[hjs]

Yes, and it makes sence to use watts instead of pace, thats would be more precise. But simply put its the most power you can get into the chain. Some people, often weak ones , call it a circus trick. Its not ofcourse. Its raw base power.

Think I'll be leaving that to the bigger boys then

Wise, its rather dangerous, a real test for the lower back.

[MartinSH4321]

Yes, and it makes sence to use watts instead of pace, thats would be more precise. But simply put its the most power you can get into the chain. Some people, often weak ones , call it a circus trick. Its not ofcourse. Its raw base power.

Think I'll be leaving that to the bigger boys then

Wise, its rather dangerous, a real test for the lower back.

Yeah, it's a bad combination of pulling as hard as you can and getting the rating as high as possible, especially the first inches of the strokes are risky.

[max_ratcliffe]

Think I'll be leaving that to the bigger boys then

Wise, its rather dangerous, a real test for the lower back.

Yeah, it's a bad combination of pulling as hard as you can and getting the rating as high as possible, especially the first inches of the strokes are risky.

And unlike a deadlift, it's virtually impossible to get the spine fully neutral. I'm with Alex - my LP is pathetic.

If it's a good predictor of potential though, it does suggest that strength is more important than we are sometimes told.

[rtbrouwer]

If it's a good predictor of potential though, it does suggest that strength is more important than we are sometimes told.

I think it is more about explosive strength. I dare to say I am quite strong, I can deadlift a 150kg no problems, on the rower, pulling the handle at maximum DF it doens't feel nearly as heavy. But to move the handle quickly is a whole different story. so the question is: how fast can you move a relatively light resistance?