New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » January 3rd, 2020, 10:02 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 5:24 am
60' 14621m, 2:03.1 24, 164

Was targeting 14345m (50%ile), but felt good, so to my surprise, have knocked off one of my goals for this year.

6 min splits
time, m, split. spm, hr
6, 1444, 2:04.6, 23, 149
12, 1445, 2:04.5, 24, 153
18, 1440, 2:05.0, 24, 156
24, 1444, 2:04.6, 24, 160
30, 1450, 2:04.1, 25, 165
36, 1449, 2:04.2, 25, 165
42, 1460, 2:03.2, 25, 171
48, 1478, 2:01.7, 26, 174
54, 1492, 2:00.8, 26, 179 - suddenly got nervous that I wasn't going to finish. Embrace the fear!
60, 1522, 1:58.2, 27, 174
Wow - huge improvement! Seeing some great gains by folks on here.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by DavidA » January 3rd, 2020, 2:01 pm

max_ratcliffe wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 5:24 am
60' 14621m, 2:03.1 24, 164

Was targeting 14345m (50%ile), but felt good, so to my surprise, have knocked off one of my goals for this year.

6 min splits
time, m, split. spm, hr
6, 1444, 2:04.6, 23, 149
12, 1445, 2:04.5, 24, 153
18, 1440, 2:05.0, 24, 156
24, 1444, 2:04.6, 24, 160
30, 1450, 2:04.1, 25, 165
36, 1449, 2:04.2, 25, 165
42, 1460, 2:03.2, 25, 171
48, 1478, 2:01.7, 26, 174
54, 1492, 2:00.8, 26, 179 - suddenly got nervous that I wasn't going to finish. Embrace the fear!
60, 1522, 1:58.2, 27, 174
Woo Hoo!
Congratulations!

David
63 y / 70 kg / 172 cm / 5 kids / 17 grandkids :)
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dino » January 3rd, 2020, 3:44 pm

max_ratcliffe wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 5:24 am
60' 14621m, 2:03.1 24, 164

Was targeting 14345m (50%ile), but felt good, so to my surprise, have knocked off one of my goals for this year.
Nice one Max!
56M HWT
50+PB 1m 326m, 500m 1:38,7, 1k 3:31.6, 2k 7:16.8, 5k 19:06.6, 6k 23:26.0, 30m 7730m, 10k 39:26.1, 60m 15025m, HM 1:25:04.7, 34.2k OTW 3:52:00, FM 2:59:26.0, 50k 3:49:17.3
A long way away from any of these PBs now!!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » January 3rd, 2020, 6:19 pm

MartinSH4321 wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 5:32 am
max_ratcliffe wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 5:24 am
60' 14621m, 2:03.1 24, 164

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Wow, that's a great improvement, +500m, big congrats!

And your last 30' were 7401m, looks like you're ready for 7,5k! Very happy for you! :)
Thanks Martin,
I've had a bit of a mental thing about the 30' (it seems 150% as scary as a 5k), so it'll be good to have some confidence when I test it.

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January 3rd, 2020, 7:49 am
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Great effort there Max, congrats on the BIG PB!!! :) ....15km is calling :wink:
Thanks Alex,
15k is a long way off for now.

I hadn't done a 60' TT for months, but had plenty of 60' L4 sessions under my belt. The rate restrictions make those sessions really demanding physically (although the frequent rate and pace changes make them fly by) and this TT felt easier until the last couple of splits.
Dangerscouse wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 8:15 am
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Well done Max, that's a big improvement on your target. There's almost always one moment in a 60 mins session that I wobble and start to doubt myself too, but almost always, if you keep going it goes away.

As Martin says, you should test your 30 mins soon too with a second half result like that.
Cheers Stu,
It was purely mental. I realised how close I was to getting over my goal, but I still had something like 3k to go. That's when the anxiety kicked in and I got that prickly feeling and the HR started to race. Calmed down a bit as I neared the finish and using some of your counting techniques definitely helped.
KeithT wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 10:02 am
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Wow - huge improvement! Seeing some great gains by folks on here.
DavidA wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 2:01 pm
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Woo Hoo!
Congratulations!

David
Dino wrote:
January 3rd, 2020, 3:44 pm
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Nice one Max!

Thanks all,
Very pleased with this - it's my best PB by some way I think. Only problem? It makes my others look quite soft! :roll: :)
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by euan12345 » January 4th, 2020, 3:48 am

HM - 1:28.56.8
PB by something like 3:30, but....

My third and final PB from this winter. It really was a tale of two halves. The first 55mins were as good as, if not better, than I was expecting. My previous time was going to be nothing short of annihilated.

On 55mins, I got a stitch in my right side. Didn’t really know the rowing method of removing it, so it slowed me for around 10mins, but it was still ok.

It cleared around 1:05, and then my elbow got me. I had an injury 16 years ago, which resulted in a less-than-straight arm and occasional tightness. Either I made some bad strokes, or it just got fatigued. The result was it was getting tight every 10-20 strokes and I had to paddle 5. Was constantly trying to self-diagnose and still keep going as best I could. At the very end it was almost at 90 degrees hanging on the side of the handle!

In conclusion: of course I should be over the moon with my PB. I overcame physical issues and didn’t just get sub 1:30 but sub 1:29 on top. But just knowing ‘what might have been’. Another positive was that this issue didn’t show up on 5/10k rows, so maybe I cut my losses and stick to the shorter distances.

Thanks for reading - sorry the post ended up this long!
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37M HW, 5'10 (178cm), 95kg
2k: 7:29.8, 5k: 19:37.2, 10k: 40:34.9, HM: 1:28.56.8, 30R20: 7211m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » January 4th, 2020, 4:13 am

euan12345 wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 3:48 am
HM - 1:28.56.8
PB by something like 3:30, but....

My third and final PB from this winter. It really was a tale of two halves. The first 55mins were as good as, if not better, than I was expecting. My previous time was going to be nothing short of annihilated.

On 55mins, I got a stitch in my right side. Didn’t really know the rowing method of removing it, so it slowed me for around 10mins, but it was still ok.

It cleared around 1:05, and then my elbow got me. I had an injury 16 years ago, which resulted in a less-than-straight arm and occasional tightness. Either I made some bad strokes, or it just got fatigued. The result was it was getting tight every 10-20 strokes and I had to paddle 5. Was constantly trying to self-diagnose and still keep going as best I could. At the very end it was almost at 90 degrees hanging on the side of the handle!

In conclusion: of course I should be over the moon with my PB. I overcame physical issues and didn’t just get sub 1:30 but sub 1:29 on top. But just knowing ‘what might have been’. Another positive was that this issue didn’t show up on 5/10k rows, so maybe I cut my losses and stick to the shorter distances.

Thanks for reading - sorry the post ended up this long!
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Really nice Euan, well done. A HM is never easy and you really battled through a lot to get this PB.

If I was you I'd refine your technique with circa 10k, and less, distances and hopefully that will help you along with your increase in fitness as you keep training
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by jimmyshand » January 4th, 2020, 4:51 am

euan12345 wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 3:48 am
HM - 1:28.56.8
Great result Euan - that's a big chunk off!
44 years old - 198cm/6'6" - England

PBs -
1k 3:15.4 (Jun 2020) | 2k 6:51.4 (Feb 2019) | 5k 18:16.9 (Oct 2019) | 30min 8,016m (Apr 2019) | 10k 37:53.6 (May 2019) | 60min 15,254m (Apr 2019) | HM 1:25:38.4 (Apr 2019)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by euan12345 » January 4th, 2020, 5:59 am

jimmyshand wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 4:51 am
euan12345 wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 3:48 am
HM - 1:28.56.8
Great result Euan - that's a big chunk off!
Thanks so much! Yes, I agree - better for me to stick to the lesser distances. I have a self-made plan going forward and my only real target at this point is the ol’ 2k

p.s as a Fifer who grew up 10 miles from Auchtermuchty, lots of respect for your username B)
37M HW, 5'10 (178cm), 95kg
2k: 7:29.8, 5k: 19:37.2, 10k: 40:34.9, HM: 1:28.56.8, 30R20: 7211m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » January 4th, 2020, 6:08 am

euan12345 wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 3:48 am
HM - 1:28.56.8
PB by something like 3:30, but....

My third and final PB from this winter. It really was a tale of two halves. The first 55mins were as good as, if not better, than I was expecting. My previous time was going to be nothing short of annihilated.

On 55mins, I got a stitch in my right side. Didn’t really know the rowing method of removing it, so it slowed me for around 10mins, but it was still ok.

It cleared around 1:05, and then my elbow got me. I had an injury 16 years ago, which resulted in a less-than-straight arm and occasional tightness. Either I made some bad strokes, or it just got fatigued. The result was it was getting tight every 10-20 strokes and I had to paddle 5. Was constantly trying to self-diagnose and still keep going as best I could. At the very end it was almost at 90 degrees hanging on the side of the handle!

In conclusion: of course I should be over the moon with my PB. I overcame physical issues and didn’t just get sub 1:30 but sub 1:29 on top. But just knowing ‘what might have been’. Another positive was that this issue didn’t show up on 5/10k rows, so maybe I cut my losses and stick to the shorter distances.

Thanks for reading - sorry the post ended up this long!
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Well done, great improvement! Big congrats!
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LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by euan12345 » January 4th, 2020, 6:33 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 6:08 am

Well done, great improvement! Big congrats!
Thanks, Martin!
37M HW, 5'10 (178cm), 95kg
2k: 7:29.8, 5k: 19:37.2, 10k: 40:34.9, HM: 1:28.56.8, 30R20: 7211m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » January 4th, 2020, 7:34 am

euan12345 wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 3:48 am
HM - 1:28.56.8
PB by something like 3:30, but....
I know where you're coming from, but, you should absolutely be proud of the enormous chunks you've taken off your three PBs.

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euan12345 wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 3:48 am

It cleared around 1:05, and then my elbow got me. I had an injury 16 years ago, which resulted in a less-than-straight arm and occasional tightness. Either I made some bad strokes, or it just got fatigued. The result was it was getting tight every 10-20 strokes and I had to paddle 5. Was constantly trying to self-diagnose and still keep going as best I could. At the very end it was almost at 90 degrees hanging on the side of the handle!
I get some RH anterior shoulder soreness if I break my arms too soon (too much work done by biceps, I think). If I focus on keeping my arms "long" (and I try to do this by relaxing my grip) then the soreness just doesn't happen. No idea whether this will affect your injury or not, or even be possible if your arm doesn't quite straighten, but might be something to think about.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by euan12345 » January 4th, 2020, 9:39 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 7:34 am
euan12345 wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 3:48 am
HM - 1:28.56.8
PB by something like 3:30, but....
I know where you're coming from, but, you should absolutely be proud of the enormous chunks you've taken off your three PBs.

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Thanks again :) Yes, it has been a good two weeks. All thanks to the Holiday Challenge and getting the video critique from this forum. I really shouldn’t be critical - it sucks having this elbow issue, but when it happened, it could have been a much worse result.
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I get some RH anterior shoulder soreness if I break my arms too soon (too much work done by biceps, I think). If I focus on keeping my arms "long" (and I try to do this by relaxing my grip) then the soreness just doesn't happen. No idea whether this will affect your injury or not, or even be possible if your arm doesn't quite straighten, but might be something to think about.
Thanks, that is interesting! I think for myself, I get into issues at the finish, if my elbow gets a bit stuck and chicken-wings out under tension. But I also think simple fatigue was the cause as well. It is feeling much better now, which is good. I can remember the surgeon saying at the time that my chances of getting arthritis were “...100%”, but so far it hasn’t shown up (yet)
37M HW, 5'10 (178cm), 95kg
2k: 7:29.8, 5k: 19:37.2, 10k: 40:34.9, HM: 1:28.56.8, 30R20: 7211m

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Atticus » January 4th, 2020, 4:07 pm

Hi all. Had an erg for several years now. Hitting 50 this year so thought I need to get serious about getting fit. Had a look over some past PBs and sessions I like to do. Besides the standard distances and times I also like the 'alternative' workouts on the PM.

Today I tried the 1 minute to 4minute and back again workout. Didn't know what to expect. Happy to hit these numbers:

1 min 286m/144.8 pace
2 min 575/1:44.3
3 min 852/1:45.6
4 min 1,115/1:47.6
3 min 864/1:44.1
2 min 595/1:40.8
1 min 310/1:36.7

Total: 16 mins 4,597m 1:44.4 pace

Target was to get a baseline down and maybe go sub 1:48 pace (average). Pretty happy with that.
HW. Almost 50. 2K 6:31, 5k 17.18, 10k 35.20, PBs set a few years ago. Chasing them seriously in 2020.

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » January 5th, 2020, 7:43 am

Atticus wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 4:07 pm
Hi all. Had an erg for several years now. Hitting 50 this year so thought I need to get serious about getting fit. Had a look over some past PBs and sessions I like to do. Besides the standard distances and times I also like the 'alternative' workouts on the PM.

Today I tried the 1 minute to 4minute and back again workout. Didn't know what to expect. Happy to hit these numbers:

1 min 286m/144.8 pace
2 min 575/1:44.3
3 min 852/1:45.6
4 min 1,115/1:47.6
3 min 864/1:44.1
2 min 595/1:40.8
1 min 310/1:36.7

Total: 16 mins 4,597m 1:44.4 pace

Target was to get a baseline down and maybe go sub 1:48 pace (average). Pretty happy with that.
Was this done without rest? That's a really good result if it was
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » January 6th, 2020, 9:23 am

euan12345 wrote:
January 4th, 2020, 3:48 am
HM - 1:28.56.8
PB by something like 3:30, but....

My third and final PB from this winter. It really was a tale of two halves. The first 55mins were as good as, if not better, than I was expecting. My previous time was going to be nothing short of annihilated.

On 55mins, I got a stitch in my right side. Didn’t really know the rowing method of removing it, so it slowed me for around 10mins, but it was still ok.

It cleared around 1:05, and then my elbow got me. I had an injury 16 years ago, which resulted in a less-than-straight arm and occasional tightness. Either I made some bad strokes, or it just got fatigued. The result was it was getting tight every 10-20 strokes and I had to paddle 5. Was constantly trying to self-diagnose and still keep going as best I could. At the very end it was almost at 90 degrees hanging on the side of the handle!

In conclusion: of course I should be over the moon with my PB. I overcame physical issues and didn’t just get sub 1:30 but sub 1:29 on top. But just knowing ‘what might have been’. Another positive was that this issue didn’t show up on 5/10k rows, so maybe I cut my losses and stick to the shorter distances.

Thanks for reading - sorry the post ended up this long!
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Great improvement and way to fight thru it!
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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