RE 2W / KG

General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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Re: RE 2W / KG

Post by Carl Watts » August 26th, 2019, 6:19 pm

Exactly Allan, I think your percentages are on the money. There is an argument about the "Elite" rowers not bothering to rank their indoors rows however I would counter with they are probably outnumbered 1000:1 by those who do not even get off the couch. The rise of gaming and other factors is leading to a generation of kids that even in their 20's you would beat them on an indoor rower at age 50+.
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Re: RE 2W / KG

Post by hjs » August 27th, 2019, 3:09 am

Carl Watts wrote:
August 26th, 2019, 6:19 pm
Exactly Allan, I think your percentages are on the money. There is an argument about the "Elite" rowers not bothering to rank their indoors rows however I would counter with they are probably outnumbered 1000:1 by those who do not even get off the couch. The rise of gaming and other factors is leading to a generation of kids that even in their 20's you would beat them on an indoor rower at age 50+.
Very incorrect. Over here, almost nobody ranks. At our national championships 1400 people compete, maybe 25 results get ranked. The top often does not race here.
The numbers you guys pick are plucked from thin air.

People who do not get of the couch, could very well be talented. Most talent is never discovered or developed. The fact that people nowadays often are very inactive only makes them very unfit, nothing more. They could easily shape up.

For a 2.00 30 min, you roughly need a 7.20/30 2k, certainly not everybody can reach that, but those numbers are absolutely not super tough, people of average height and above can pull does numbers. Being shorter/lighter ofcourse does not help.
But the lightweight Wr, sub75kg is still below 6.00

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Re: RE 2W / KG

Post by Allan Olesen » August 27th, 2019, 12:46 pm

hjs wrote:
August 27th, 2019, 3:09 am
People who do not get of the couch, could very well be talented. Most talent is never discovered or developed. The fact that people nowadays often are very inactive only makes them very unfit, nothing more. They could easily shape up.
The discussion was not about what most people would become capable of if they started training. The discussion was about what they are capable of with their current training level.

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Re: RE 2W / KG

Post by hjs » August 27th, 2019, 1:00 pm

Allan Olesen wrote:
August 27th, 2019, 12:46 pm
hjs wrote:
August 27th, 2019, 3:09 am
People who do not get of the couch, could very well be talented. Most talent is never discovered or developed. The fact that people nowadays often are very inactive only makes them very unfit, nothing more. They could easily shape up.
The discussion was not about what most people would become capable of if they started training. The discussion was about what they are capable of with their current training level.
Really can,t make anything from this comment.

“Started training” “current training” it can,t be both. You train or you don,t and for those who do train, almost nobody gets close to their potential. Certainly not Carl, who gave up after one year and from that time he is downplaying everything and everybody because he won,t train.

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Re: RE 2W / KG

Post by nick rockliff » August 27th, 2019, 3:27 pm

Allan Olesen wrote:
August 26th, 2019, 2:41 pm
Carl Watts wrote:
August 26th, 2019, 4:49 am
Don't be under the impression from others that a 7500m in 30 minutes is "Easy", lets be honest here that is basically impossible for more than half of the 50 year olds in the general population.
That is understating it, I think. It is probably impossible for 80-90% of the general population at that age.

In the C2 rankings, 7500m will place you in the best third among males 50-59 years old. And those rankings are probably not representative of the general population since you need to have more than a casual relationship to a rowing ergometer before your discover that you can register your sessions online and get them ranked.
Had to check the rankings to see if this was right and was very surprised to see 7500 would be good enough for the top 25%. I would have thought there would be a much larger percentage at >7500 for 30 min.

Is it because the other 75% don't train on the erg as much?
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PBs 2k 6:16.4 5k 16:37.5 10k 34:35.5 30m 8727 60m 17059 HM 74:25.9 FM 2:43:48.8
50s PBs 2k 6.24.3 5k 16.55.4 6k 20.34.2 10k 35.19.0 30m 8633 60m 16685 HM 76.48.7
60s PBs 5k 17.51.2 10k 36.42.6 30m 8263 60m 16089 HM 79.16.6

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