New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » August 17th, 2019, 7:18 am

Andrew Shuck wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 6:42 am
10k P.B. Ave/ 1:44.8 Time 34:57.3
I beat my previous time of 35:25.9
Distance/Time/ Ave per 500/ watts/ spm / Hr
2k 7:00.0 1:45.0 302w 27spm 175bpm
4k 7:00.3 1:45.0 302 27 " 184 "
6k 6:58.5 1:44.6 306 28 " 191 "
8k 7:00.1 1:45.0 302 29 " 195 '
10k 6:58.4 1:44.6 306 30 " 199

Around 26 mins in, i had the 1st of 4 hd's.( significant rate drop, not actually stopping)
My plan was to maintain 1:45's. Tough one this, especially with a superficial hangover. :oops:
Wow, sub 35min, extra extra strong! Big congrats, that's a great milestone!! :D
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Andrew Shuck » August 17th, 2019, 7:28 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 7:18 am

Wow, sub 35min, extra extra strong! Big congrats, that's a great milestone!! :D
@ Martin, i've just flicked back at recent posts, well done on your recent 10k P.B. Massive feel good factor.
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Pb's achieved in 2019/20....500m 1:22.91k 3:00.2 2k 6:19.25k 16:50.5 10k 34:57.3 1/2 M 1:17:37.3 60min 16557 full M 2:45:52.7 2018 100k 7:37.27.1 23 Million meters to date
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » August 17th, 2019, 7:34 am

Andrew Shuck wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 6:42 am
10k P.B. Ave/ 1:44.8 Time 34:57.3
I beat my previous time of 35:25.9
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My plan was to maintain 1:45's. Tough one this, especially with a superficial hangover. :oops:
This is staggering. How quick will you be with no hangover?!?
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Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Gammmmo » August 17th, 2019, 7:37 am

Andrew Shuck wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 6:42 am
10k P.B. Ave/ 1:44.8 Time 34:57.3
I beat my previous time of 35:25.9
Distance/Time/ Ave per 500/ watts/ spm / Hr
2k 7:00.0 1:45.0 302w 27spm 175bpm
4k 7:00.3 1:45.0 302 27 " 184 "
6k 6:58.5 1:44.6 306 28 " 191 "
8k 7:00.1 1:45.0 302 29 " 195 '
10k 6:58.4 1:44.6 306 30 " 199

Around 26 mins in, i had the 1st of 4 hd's.( significant rate drop, not actually stopping)
My plan was to maintain 1:45's. Tough one this, especially with a superficial hangover. :oops:
Super...if you can take a chunk like that off, then there is more there....
Extra credit IMO for recording decent marks at the short AND long stuff. Nice.
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » August 17th, 2019, 8:14 am

Andrew Shuck wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 6:42 am
10k P.B. Ave/ 1:44.8 Time 34:57.3
I beat my previous time of 35:25.9
Distance/Time/ Ave per 500/ watts/ spm / Hr
2k 7:00.0 1:45.0 302w 27spm 175bpm
4k 7:00.3 1:45.0 302 27 " 184 "
6k 6:58.5 1:44.6 306 28 " 191 "
8k 7:00.1 1:45.0 302 29 " 195 '
10k 6:58.4 1:44.6 306 30 " 199

Around 26 mins in, i had the 1st of 4 hd's.( significant rate drop, not actually stopping)
My plan was to maintain 1:45's. Tough one this, especially with a superficial hangover. :oops:
Stunning effort Andrew. To take off nearly 29 secs, and to average a sub 7 pace for 10k is mind blowing. You need to test your 2k again very soon.

It is very helpful to hear of your four wobbles as I always seem to struggle at about 27-28mins too. I'll use this as motivation next time
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Andrew Shuck » August 17th, 2019, 8:29 am

@ Max, H-over was nothing more than a fuzzy head. Cheers.
@ Paul, As well as all distances being physically hard, i find keeping mental focus hard too. I just have to hang in there..The pain seems to stay constant. It's just a matter of coming to terms with it. (quote: Henry Embrace the pain.)
@ Stu, as you've said many times...Tickle the edges of a H.D.
Thanks all.
Male 57yrs. 6'1" 88kg.[u[/u] Left Hip Resurfaced June 2024.
Pb's achieved in 2019/20....500m 1:22.91k 3:00.2 2k 6:19.25k 16:50.5 10k 34:57.3 1/2 M 1:17:37.3 60min 16557 full M 2:45:52.7 2018 100k 7:37.27.1 23 Million meters to date
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » August 17th, 2019, 8:56 am

Andrew Shuck wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 6:42 am
10k P.B. Ave/ 1:44.8 Time 34:57.3
I beat my previous time of 35:25.9
Distance/Time/ Ave per 500/ watts/ spm / Hr
2k 7:00.0 1:45.0 302w 27spm 175bpm
4k 7:00.3 1:45.0 302 27 " 184 "
6k 6:58.5 1:44.6 306 28 " 191 "
8k 7:00.1 1:45.0 302 29 " 195 '
10k 6:58.4 1:44.6 306 30 " 199

Around 26 mins in, i had the 1st of 4 hd's.( significant rate drop, not actually stopping)
My plan was to maintain 1:45's. Tough one this, especially with a superficial hangover. :oops:
Congrats, but lets be real, now this is on par with your other work, that 10k was really sub par. :wink:

Still very nice. Congrats

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Post by Andrew Shuck » August 17th, 2019, 11:59 am

hjs wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 8:56 am
Congrats, but lets be real, now this is on par with your other work, that 10k was really sub par. :wink:

Still very nice. Congrats
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@ Henry, yes you're right my 10k did need addressing. thanks.
Male 57yrs. 6'1" 88kg.[u[/u] Left Hip Resurfaced June 2024.
Pb's achieved in 2019/20....500m 1:22.91k 3:00.2 2k 6:19.25k 16:50.5 10k 34:57.3 1/2 M 1:17:37.3 60min 16557 full M 2:45:52.7 2018 100k 7:37.27.1 23 Million meters to date
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Post by jimmyshand » August 17th, 2019, 1:20 pm

Given the crazy-good PBs being posted here (Andrew! for example) this is definitely not a brag but I did manage to take almost 6 seconds off my 5k today and end up with 18:19.4.

Things that were good: I found it tough but didn't give up; overall rate was 27, though it did vary and I ended up at 29 for the last 500; clear negative split; 1:46.6 last 500; but most of all I was pleased with the disciplined pacing. My plan was to hit 1:51.0 or below until 3,500 and then turn it up from there but I was able to do a bit better than that.

I really wasn't feeling great and my diet has been terrible and sleep pattern awful so this gives me hope that under perfect conditions (which will never exist!) I could go a little faster. But the psychological boost of doing a 5k and the split being 1:49.x is nice so I'll just settle for that for now.

Martin: you'll easily beat this soon but thanks for the motivation.
44 years old - 198cm/6'6" - England

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1k 3:15.4 (Jun 2020) | 2k 6:51.4 (Feb 2019) | 5k 18:16.9 (Oct 2019) | 30min 8,016m (Apr 2019) | 10k 37:53.6 (May 2019) | 60min 15,254m (Apr 2019) | HM 1:25:38.4 (Apr 2019)

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Post by MartinSH4321 » August 17th, 2019, 1:53 pm

jimmyshand wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 1:20 pm
Given the crazy-good PBs being posted here (Andrew! for example) this is definitely not a brag but I did manage to take almost 6 seconds off my 5k today and end up with 18:19.4.

Things that were good: I found it tough but didn't give up; overall rate was 27, though it did vary and I ended up at 29 for the last 500; clear negative split; 1:46.6 last 500; but most of all I was pleased with the disciplined pacing. My plan was to hit 1:51.0 or below until 3,500 and then turn it up from there but I was able to do a bit better than that.

I really wasn't feeling great and my diet has been terrible and sleep pattern awful so this gives me hope that under perfect conditions (which will never exist!) I could go a little faster. But the psychological boost of doing a 5k and the split being 1:49.x is nice so I'll just settle for that for now.

Martin: you'll easily beat this soon but thanks for the motivation.
Well done Alasdair, I knew you can go sub 18:20!
That's great motivation, I hope to give it a try soon, but I fear it won't be easy at all :D
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LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » August 17th, 2019, 1:56 pm

Andrew Shuck wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 7:28 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 7:18 am

Wow, sub 35min, extra extra strong! Big congrats, that's a great milestone!! :D
@ Martin, i've just flicked back at recent posts, well done on your recent 10k P.B. Massive feel good factor.
Thank you Andrew, I definitely have a great run atm, and you're right, reaching these milestones are massive feel good factors! I'm curious what milestone you'll hit next.
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » August 17th, 2019, 2:19 pm

jimmyshand wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 1:20 pm
Given the crazy-good PBs being posted here (Andrew! for example) this is definitely not a brag but I did manage to take almost 6 seconds off my 5k today and end up with 18:19.4.

Things that were good: I found it tough but didn't give up; overall rate was 27, though it did vary and I ended up at 29 for the last 500; clear negative split; 1:46.6 last 500; but most of all I was pleased with the disciplined pacing. My plan was to hit 1:51.0 or below until 3,500 and then turn it up from there but I was able to do a bit better than that.

I really wasn't feeling great and my diet has been terrible and sleep pattern awful so this gives me hope that under perfect conditions (which will never exist!) I could go a little faster. But the psychological boost of doing a 5k and the split being 1:49.x is nice so I'll just settle for that for now.

Martin: you'll easily beat this soon but thanks for the motivation.
Nice, well done!

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Post by jimmyshand » August 17th, 2019, 3:04 pm

Henry, Martin - thanks. Funny how sometimes we don't feel great but manage to put in a good performance.

Also weird how now sitting here on the couch I'm like "I could probably go five seconds faster" but at the time of actually doing it I'm thinking "this might kill me".

The psychology of it is weird but also strangely enjoyable and a bit addictive.
44 years old - 198cm/6'6" - England

PBs -
1k 3:15.4 (Jun 2020) | 2k 6:51.4 (Feb 2019) | 5k 18:16.9 (Oct 2019) | 30min 8,016m (Apr 2019) | 10k 37:53.6 (May 2019) | 60min 15,254m (Apr 2019) | HM 1:25:38.4 (Apr 2019)

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Post by MartinSH4321 » August 18th, 2019, 2:55 am

jimmyshand wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 3:04 pm
Henry, Martin - thanks. Funny how sometimes we don't feel great but manage to put in a good performance.

Also weird how now sitting here on the couch I'm like "I could probably go five seconds faster" but at the time of actually doing it I'm thinking "this might kill me".

The psychology of it is weird but also strangely enjoyable and a bit addictive.
Totally agree :D
I'm the type of erger who wants to fine-tune all relevant aspects (sleep, food, intensity/duration of previous training...) before trying a TT, but sometimes I don't plan them, feel not 100% and still get a PB. On average I think it helps to plan these things, but it's evident that there are other aspects, you can't plan everything.
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LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Post by Dangerscouse » August 18th, 2019, 3:10 am

jimmyshand wrote:
August 17th, 2019, 1:20 pm
Given the crazy-good PBs being posted here (Andrew! for example) this is definitely not a brag but I did manage to take almost 6 seconds off my 5k today and end up with 18:19.4.

Things that were good: I found it tough but didn't give up; overall rate was 27, though it did vary and I ended up at 29 for the last 500; clear negative split; 1:46.6 last 500; but most of all I was pleased with the disciplined pacing. My plan was to hit 1:51.0 or below until 3,500 and then turn it up from there but I was able to do a bit better than that.

I really wasn't feeling great and my diet has been terrible and sleep pattern awful so this gives me hope that under perfect conditions (which will never exist!) I could go a little faster. But the psychological boost of doing a 5k and the split being 1:49.x is nice so I'll just settle for that for now.

Martin: you'll easily beat this soon but thanks for the motivation.
I don't agree Alasdair, this is something to brag about. Given the circumstances, getting below 1:50 pace and taking off almost six seconds are all big achievements.

Seeing other lines of progression shouldn't be used as direct comparison as there are far too many variables, and don't forget, this is now only the start of your progression so this will be broken again soon enough
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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