Wr 6k and 5.36.5 2k

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Wr 6k and 5.36.5 2k

Post by hjs » July 23rd, 2019, 4:45 pm

Not fresh anymore, but had not heard it earlier.

Simon van Dorp, his instagram with those results included.

https://www.instagram.com/simon_vandorp/?hl=en

Video of the 6k https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_ ... 6k%2F&_rdr

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Re: Wr 6k and 5.36.5 2k

Post by MartinSH4321 » July 24th, 2019, 4:42 am

:shock: not that bad! :lol:
less than 1sec for a 2k WR, wow
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1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
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Re: Wr 6k and 5.36.5 2k

Post by hjs » July 24th, 2019, 5:16 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
July 24th, 2019, 4:42 am
:shock: not that bad! :lol:
less than 1sec for a 2k WR, wow
He pulled several sub 5.40 around that time. This one was the first in a 4x2k session. Notice the rating, this is a 6.8 guy. Rating in during his final stretch in the 6k was close to 50 :D

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Post by jimmyshand » July 25th, 2019, 6:07 am

Incredible! Rating for last 500 of the 2k seems superhuman.
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1k 3:15.4 (Jun 2020) | 2k 6:51.4 (Feb 2019) | 5k 18:16.9 (Oct 2019) | 30min 8,016m (Apr 2019) | 10k 37:53.6 (May 2019) | 60min 15,254m (Apr 2019) | HM 1:25:38.4 (Apr 2019)

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Re: Wr 6k and 5.36.5 2k

Post by RayOfSunshine » July 26th, 2019, 6:05 am

Thanks for sharing. I notice his stroke isn't as long (leaning back) as some of the others. His motion almost looks effortless and not nearly as fast as he's going.
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Re: Wr 6k and 5.36.5 2k

Post by JimS » September 12th, 2019, 1:22 am

I've read before that the best 2ks shorten their stroke at the end when getting tired. How does that work?
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Re: Wr 6k and 5.36.5 2k

Post by lindsayh » September 12th, 2019, 6:26 am

JimS wrote:
September 12th, 2019, 1:22 am
I've read before that the best 2ks shorten their stroke at the end when getting tired. How does that work?
As the watts per stroke drop you may need to shorten the stroke to increase the rate and maintain the pace
Here is JDS doing a 5:38 2k just before his WR was done
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyN9E417AIQ
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Re: Wr 6k and 5.36.5 2k

Post by hjs » September 12th, 2019, 1:21 pm

JimS wrote:
September 12th, 2019, 1:22 am
I've read before that the best 2ks shorten their stroke at the end when getting tired. How does that work?
Legs lock up, so you throw everything you have left. I rate 30/31 during a 2k, the last bit I rate 40 or above. With a much shorter stroke, getting energy out of the upperbody much more.

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Re: Wr 6k and 5.36.5 2k

Post by JimS » September 12th, 2019, 4:09 pm

And how do you shorten the stroke? You catch further away from the wheel? Bend your legs less? Bend your hips less?
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Re: Wr 6k and 5.36.5 2k

Post by hjs » September 13th, 2019, 3:13 am

JimS wrote:
September 12th, 2019, 4:09 pm
And how do you shorten the stroke? You catch further away from the wheel? Bend your legs less? Bend your hips less?
You keep the feet flat, this limits the kneebending. So yes the catch will be further away from the wheel. Everything else is the same. Its not complicated, if you do intervals a next time, you could try it, every last 50 meters orso.

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Post by JimS » September 13th, 2019, 3:58 am

hjs wrote:
September 13th, 2019, 3:13 am
JimS wrote:
September 12th, 2019, 4:09 pm
And how do you shorten the stroke? You catch further away from the wheel? Bend your legs less? Bend your hips less?
You keep the feet flat, this limits the kneebending. So yes the catch will be further away from the wheel. Everything else is the same. Its not complicated, if you do intervals a next time, you could try it, every last 50 meters orso.
Great. That's seems a very useful cue. Will give it a crack on my next 8x500.

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Re: Wr 6k and 5.36.5 2k

Post by hjs » September 13th, 2019, 4:02 am

JimS wrote:
September 13th, 2019, 3:58 am
hjs wrote:
September 13th, 2019, 3:13 am
JimS wrote:
September 12th, 2019, 4:09 pm
And how do you shorten the stroke? You catch further away from the wheel? Bend your legs less? Bend your hips less?
You keep the feet flat, this limits the kneebending. So yes the catch will be further away from the wheel. Everything else is the same. Its not complicated, if you do intervals a next time, you could try it, every last 50 meters orso.
Great. That's seems a very useful cue. Will give it a crack on my next 8x500.

Thank you!
Welcome, it helps sqeezing the last bit out. Otw guys don,t do it ofcourse, course they need to use full strokes. Its a pure erg thing.

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