New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » June 5th, 2019, 10:58 am

1min PB :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 375m 1:20.0 684 2652 42
1:00.0 376m 1:19.7 689 2671 42

The TT was totally unplanned, this week should be easy so no training yesterday, legs felt fresh.
A few meters more are possible I think, started a bit to slow.
Don't know why there are 2 different results, the PM5 showed 689W average (376m), but 375m is the result.
Anyway, I'm very happy with this result, +6m :lol:
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Andrew Shuck » June 5th, 2019, 11:26 am

@ Nick, well spotted, most definitely a big typo :oops:
@ Keith, thanks a lot.
@ Max, well done soon be sub 7:30
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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » June 5th, 2019, 11:30 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 10:58 am
1min PB :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 375m 1:20.0 684 2652 42
1:00.0 376m 1:19.7 689 2671 42

The TT was totally unplanned, this week should be easy so no training yesterday, legs felt fresh.
A few meters more are possible I think, started a bit to slow.
Don't know why there are 2 different results, the PM5 showed 689W average (376m), but 375m is the result.
Anyway, I'm very happy with this result, +6m :lol:
Nice work, with no sprinttraining at all.

Re downrounding, happens often, how and why I don,t know.

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » June 5th, 2019, 1:02 pm

hjs wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 11:30 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 10:58 am
1min PB :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 375m 1:20.0 684 2652 42
1:00.0 376m 1:19.7 689 2671 42

The TT was totally unplanned, this week should be easy so no training yesterday, legs felt fresh.
A few meters more are possible I think, started a bit to slow.
Don't know why there are 2 different results, the PM5 showed 689W average (376m), but 375m is the result.
Anyway, I'm very happy with this result, +6m :lol:
Nice work, with no sprinttraining at all.

Re downrounding, happens often, how and why I don,t know.
Thank you Henry, I tried to follow your advice to start faster and fade out, a great advice as always! Next time I'll start even faster as I still finished with a 1:21 pace. I'll give it a try in a few months when preparing for a new 2k PB, by now just training to get fitter, not faster :D
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » June 5th, 2019, 1:05 pm

MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 10:58 am
1min PB :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 375m 1:20.0 684 2652 42
1:00.0 376m 1:19.7 689 2671 42

The TT was totally unplanned, this week should be easy so no training yesterday, legs felt fresh.
A few meters more are possible I think, started a bit to slow.
Don't know why there are 2 different results, the PM5 showed 689W average (376m), but 375m is the result.
Anyway, I'm very happy with this result, +6m :lol:
Wow- way to go! You beat my PB by 3m and now have 2 rows better than mine - You are going to force me to test some of these again :)
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » June 5th, 2019, 1:11 pm

MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 10:58 am
1min PB :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 375m 1:20.0 684 2652 42
1:00.0 376m 1:19.7 689 2671 42

The TT was totally unplanned, this week should be easy so no training yesterday, legs felt fresh.
A few meters more are possible I think, started a bit to slow.
Don't know why there are 2 different results, the PM5 showed 689W average (376m), but 375m is the result.
Anyway, I'm very happy with this result, +6m :lol:
That is STRONG AF!! :shock:
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » June 5th, 2019, 3:07 pm

KeithT wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 1:05 pm
MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 10:58 am
1min PB :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 375m 1:20.0 684 2652 42
1:00.0 376m 1:19.7 689 2671 42

The TT was totally unplanned, this week should be easy so no training yesterday, legs felt fresh.
A few meters more are possible I think, started a bit to slow.
Don't know why there are 2 different results, the PM5 showed 689W average (376m), but 375m is the result.
Anyway, I'm very happy with this result, +6m :lol:
Wow- way to go! You beat my PB by 3m and now have 2 rows better than mine - You are going to force me to test some of these again :)
I'm sure you can beat my results, maybe we can motivate each other for some nice improvements on the short distances :D
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » June 5th, 2019, 3:10 pm

Dangerscouse wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 1:11 pm
MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 10:58 am
1min PB :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 375m 1:20.0 684 2652 42
1:00.0 376m 1:19.7 689 2671 42

The TT was totally unplanned, this week should be easy so no training yesterday, legs felt fresh.
A few meters more are possible I think, started a bit to slow.
Don't know why there are 2 different results, the PM5 showed 689W average (376m), but 375m is the result.
Anyway, I'm very happy with this result, +6m :lol:
That is STRONG AF!! :shock:
Thanks Stu! :lol:
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by hjs » June 5th, 2019, 3:49 pm

MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 1:02 pm
hjs wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 11:30 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 10:58 am
1min PB :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 375m 1:20.0 684 2652 42
1:00.0 376m 1:19.7 689 2671 42

The TT was totally unplanned, this week should be easy so no training yesterday, legs felt fresh.
A few meters more are possible I think, started a bit to slow.
Don't know why there are 2 different results, the PM5 showed 689W average (376m), but 375m is the result.
Anyway, I'm very happy with this result, +6m :lol:
Nice work, with no sprinttraining at all.

Re downrounding, happens often, how and why I don,t know.
Thank you Henry, I tried to follow your advice to start faster and fade out, a great advice as always! Next time I'll start even faster as I still finished with a 1:21 pace. I'll give it a try in a few months when preparing for a new 2k PB, by now just training to get fitter, not faster :D
Most fast guys, really start fast and often die a bit, thats not for everybody though.

If you don,t loose strenght and get fitter, your 1 min and 500 also will get better. I have seen a y strong guy improve his 500 by only starting doing 5k as training, instead of sprinting a bit. Erg sprinting is very much about raw power. Ofcourse really peaking needs some specific training, but raw power will get us a long way.
A guy like Paul Jeffrey, Wr holder sprinting on both the rower als skierg mostly trained his strengh and power, and pulled 1.13 on the 500 age 54....

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » June 6th, 2019, 5:25 am

KeithT wrote:
June 4th, 2019, 11:33 am
Always fun to smash a goal! How was your pacing, was it fairly consistent? Also, 26 SPM for a 2K seems a little low, might gain some with getting the rating higher.
Thanks Keith.
Started with 10 strong strokes (thanks, JimS, for that idea) then went to 500m at 1.56, 1.55 or so for the next 1k, slowly speeding up and then went nuts with 500m to go. I could barely focus by then (other than trying to will the distance left to go down), so not sure of the pace.
Dino wrote:
June 4th, 2019, 12:25 pm
well done max! 7.30 next! :D
do you not use Ergdata? it's useful to revisit how you rowed it looking at the graph in the log or CSV, rather than just having the interval info.
Thanks Dino,
7.30 has to be the next 2k target now, but will focus on getting the 5k down below 20min (another target at the beginning of the year).
The only thing older than the ergs in the gym is my phone – a seriously ancient blackberry clone. Think I need to look into ergdata, but might go for an HRM first. Understanding how consistent I am across intervals will be quite handy.
Dangerscouse wrote:
June 4th, 2019, 1:54 pm
Well done Max! You will definitely benefit from increasing the stroke rate up to 30+ but that will come with time and more fitness.

Counting down the last 30 strokes is a great distraction
Thanks Stu,
I haven’t done much rate work, as I haven’t really understood how to pace it. And the skill aspect comes in a bit too – I tend to resemble a landed fish when I go much faster.
JimS wrote:
June 4th, 2019, 9:09 pm

Nice one! Yeah. Somehow last 30 is always doable.
Thanks Jim,
I got the last 30 idea from you. And the strong start. Not sure what is going on physiologically, but there seem to be some free metres at the start.
MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 1:13 am
Well done Max, good you struggled through the last 500m!
Thanks Martin,
Was delighted once I’d peeled myself off the floor.
Anth_F wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 7:57 am
Well done, Max.
Last 500 certainly can make or break on a 2k... nice determination to get over the line!!!!!!!!
Thanks Anth,
500m seemed lots.
mitchel674 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 9:59 am
Very nice!! Impressive progress and you crushed your target.
Thanks Mitchel,
What gains I’ve made thus far have been largely due to smarter pacing, but this is definitely something I couldn’t have done a month ago. Very pleasing.
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by max_ratcliffe » June 6th, 2019, 5:55 am

Andrew Shuck wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 11:26 am
@ Nick, well spotted, most definitely a big typo :oops:
@ Keith, thanks a lot.
@ Max, well done soon be sub 7:30
Thanks Andrew,
Not sure I feel like another go for a week or two, though. :wink:
51 HWT
PBs:
Rower 1'=329m; 500m=1:34.0; 1k=3:25:1; 2k=7:16.5; 5k=19:44; 6k=23:24; 30'=7582m; 10k=40.28; 60'=14621m; HM=1:27:46
SkiErg 1'=309m; 500m=1:40.3; 1k=3:35.3; 2k=7:35.5; 5k=20:18; 6k=24:35; 30'=7239m; 10k=42:09; 60'=14209m; HM=1:32:24

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dino » June 6th, 2019, 9:32 am

max_ratcliffe wrote:
June 6th, 2019, 5:25 am
....will focus on getting the 5k down below 20min (another target at the beginning of the year).
I'd say you could dip under 20mins now for 5k based on your 2k time. Try a 5k rate 20 keeping as close to 2:00 pace as you can and see how close you get to 20 mins... I think you may surprise yourself. If you don't make it but close then repeat but allow yourself to rate up as required. I reckon you'll post on the PB thread again very shortly :)
Looking back I think I was around 7.40 for 2k when first went under 20mins for 5k last December.
56M HWT
50+PB 1m 326m, 500m 1:38,7, 1k 3:31.6, 2k 7:16.8, 5k 19:06.6, 6k 23:26.0, 30m 7730m, 10k 39:26.1, 60m 15025m, HM 1:25:04.7, FM 2:59:26.0, 50k 3:49:17.3, 34.2k OTW 3:52:57
A long way away from any of these PBs now!!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dino » June 6th, 2019, 9:36 am

MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 10:58 am
1min PB :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 375m 1:20.0 684 2652 42
1:00.0 376m 1:19.7 689 2671 42
That is very fast Martin :shock: well done!! :) You are getting stronger and fitter every week it seems!! :D
56M HWT
50+PB 1m 326m, 500m 1:38,7, 1k 3:31.6, 2k 7:16.8, 5k 19:06.6, 6k 23:26.0, 30m 7730m, 10k 39:26.1, 60m 15025m, HM 1:25:04.7, FM 2:59:26.0, 50k 3:49:17.3, 34.2k OTW 3:52:57
A long way away from any of these PBs now!!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » June 6th, 2019, 12:06 pm

Dino wrote:
June 6th, 2019, 9:36 am
MartinSH4321 wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 10:58 am
1min PB :D

Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
1:00.0 375m 1:20.0 684 2652 42
1:00.0 376m 1:19.7 689 2671 42
That is very fast Martin :shock: well done!! :) You are getting stronger and fitter every week it seems!! :D
Thanks Dino! I've lost a good bit of my past strength, but still enough left and fitness gets better and better! :D We both make great improvements, let's continue with that :wink:
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by JimS » June 6th, 2019, 7:26 pm

Thanks Jim,
I got the last 30 idea from you. And the strong start. Not sure what is going on physiologically, but there seem to be some free metres at the start.

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Others can probably chime in. But i think its about the energy systems used.

https://runnersconnect.net/energy-systems-running/

This article helped me a lot.

Understanding this and being aware of it while im training has really helped my rowing and my rugby.
Age: 40. Weight: 123kg. Height: 6'4"
Row: 1k: 3:14 2k: 6:28 5k: 17:12 30min: 8532m
Bike: 10k: 18:58. 30min: 19102m

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