Squats

[old] Coach Gus · Post by **[old] Coach Gus** » December 27th, 2004, 5:53 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (JCG3888 @ Dec 23 2004, 07:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> 1) For weight traing geared towards rowing are squats a neccessity?<br>  </td></tr></table><br> For a different opinion...absolutely not. Are they helpful and of some benefit? Most people would say yes, though some of us would say the potential risks are not worth the benefit and you can get more rowing improvement in other ways. They are not a necessity even in rowing specific weight training.

[old] Yoda1 · Post by **[old] Yoda1** » December 27th, 2004, 6:18 pm

Paul,<br><br>You're right if you are talking about the sport specifically. However, I don't believe that resistance training for a given sport means that a person has to perform that same motion. You mentioned the ERG. Yes, the knee bends further than the 90 degrees while doing a motion that is quick and somewhat explosive. Training for that paticular full range of motion, in my mind, should be limited to a safe stopping point with greater resistance than while performing the actual stroke. (I hope I'm explaining this clearly enough. I'm not a writer.) I suppose what I'm trying to get across is that resistance training, whether it's weights or resistance bands and tubes, is meant to support the an individuals performance. Not take away. By telling an inexperienced person to do full squats to up their performance on an ERG puts them in danger of damaging knees, back, hips, etc. If a person wishes to compete in Powerlifting then by all means do the full squat. But if a person is using resistance training to raise their performance, then I feel they are placing themselves in a position of injury if they are attempting to perform that same full range of motion.<br><br>Maybe if I explain my thoughts this way. I have trained a lot of people over the years. Most of which are over the age of 50. Most don't even know how to perform a pushup correctly. They were never shown. They come to me after being told by a doctor that there blood pressure is too high, they need to lose weight, or their son or daughter dared them to run a marathon. It makes no difference what the reason is, they don't know how to perform exercises that for those of us that have been involved for a lot of years take as second nature. For that reason I have always opted for the safest method of resistance training. I have never had a person hurt while I've trained them. That's a pretty good record. And those that have stuck with the program have reached their goals. As long as they were reasonable. <br><br>Hey, once again, just my opinion<br>Yoda

[old] JCG3888 · Post by **[old] JCG3888** » December 28th, 2004, 9:45 pm

Thanks for the feedback, I will attempt the squats again tommorow

[old] grandslam · Post by **[old] grandslam** » December 29th, 2004, 12:03 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (Coach Gus @ Dec 27 2004, 02:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (JCG3888 @ Dec 23 2004, 07:09 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> 1) For weight traing geared towards rowing are squats a neccessity?<br>  </td></tr></table><br>For a different opinion...absolutely not. Are they helpful and of some benefit? Most people would say yes, though some of us would say the potential risks are not worth the benefit and you can get more rowing improvement in other ways. They are not a necessity even in rowing specific weight training. </td></tr></table><br>I have to totally agree with Coach here. The question is, are you already rowing as much as you can row, before resorting to weight lifting? <br><br>Hey, this thread sounds familiar . . . an echo from the weights vs erg thread? <br><br>Cheers,<br>Jeff Sauter