New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by ukaserex » April 12th, 2019, 11:41 am

KeithT wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 10:27 am

You are way too much like me!

I struggle to calm down and also have that "out of body experience" but have gotten way better. Even at the WRIC I did 5 hard pulls and then 5 to settle but realized my "settle" I was still in the 1:20s and had to take a breathe and force myself to calm down, which I did but its hard.

Then I am also impacted by music - especially classic rock and hard rock and that can be good in the middle of a longer row but during a 2K test I don't hear anything as completely zone into the monitor and what I am doing.

Finally, I did the Dark Horse Coaching Academy a little over a year ago. I am glad I did it and I did learned a lot. I met Shane farmer at the WRIC and he was a super nice guy. I know some rowing folks don't always agree with all Shane/Dark Horse coach and say he is a converted CF athlete (which he did come do extremely well in CF) but he was a rower and then really do a good job of teaching the basics of the stroke and how to identify issues and how to correct them
Ha! I just started the Dark Horse Coaching Academy on Monday! And I opted to stall it for a couple of days until this 2k was over, because I was trying to rest. I wasn't sure how hard that Damper workout would be.

I am hopeful that between the info here and in the DH program, with some clean eating and hard work, I can eventually get to 6:20. It's going to be tough, being a member of The Lollipop Guild, but I think if I work at it, I can do it.

As for Shane Farmer, never met him, but I've not come across anything controversial in his videos, so far. But, I consider myself pretty much a novice, and probably wouldn't know what would be considered controversial. I've seen enough positive results from those that have gone through the program to trust in it's efficacy.
100M - 16.1 1 Min - 370 500M - 1:25.1 1k - 3:10.2 4:00 - 1216 2k 6:37.0 5k 17:58.8 6k - 21:54.1 30 Min. - 8130 10k - 37:49.7 60:00 - 15604
1/2 Marathon 1:28:44.3 Marathon 2:59:36

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by ukaserex » April 12th, 2019, 11:43 am

Dino wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 10:43 am

BTW... did you do the last 15 seconds cutting the slide and really pumping the arms as you mentioned on the training thread... can see your rate goes up to 49! :shock: :?:
Yes, I did exactly that. The projected finish showed 6:48, and I did the short stroke and knocked off the second and a half I needed. The projected finish actually showed 6:36, but I guess I misread it, as my final time on the monitor showed 6:36.9, but the memory and ergdata showed 6:37.0.

I will do that on the last 100m of every 2k I do from now on.
100M - 16.1 1 Min - 370 500M - 1:25.1 1k - 3:10.2 4:00 - 1216 2k 6:37.0 5k 17:58.8 6k - 21:54.1 30 Min. - 8130 10k - 37:49.7 60:00 - 15604
1/2 Marathon 1:28:44.3 Marathon 2:59:36

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215 lbs
53 years old

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » April 12th, 2019, 11:58 am

Anth_F wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 10:03 am
Yeah, i bet it was too. Really well done mate, congrats.

You definitely earned a nice Pint after that one :wink:
Thanks mate! :-)
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » April 12th, 2019, 12:04 pm

ukaserex wrote:
April 12th, 2019, 7:58 am
https://log.concept2.com/profile/113865 ... gmmD_9aADE

So, the 2k is done. Lord, it was ugly, painful, and I can't fully express how uncomfortable it was without polluting the forum with foul, unsavory words.

They say if you don't want to quit in the middle of it, you aren't working hard enough. So, I guess I was working hard enough.

My Personal Best, from February 2, 2019 was 6:38.4. Today, I got 6:37.0 (my monitor showed 6:36.9, but ErgData rounded up to 6:37, as did the PM5 monitor in the memory display.)

So, a tiny improvement of 1.4 seconds. I guess since it's only been 9 weeks since my last 2k for time, that's not too shabby.

It was by far, one of the ugliest efforts ever. They played one of my favorite songs, and I came out way too fast. The first 500 are always so deceptive; I tried to relax and get into a rhythm, but I never did. I thought I was going to lose control of my bladder and bowels with 600m to go; just glad it's over.

I plan to really train hard for the next one; with a lot more focus on power & technique. Rate was far too high in the beginning and the middle.

Still, #26 in the world for my age group (50-59) isn't too shabby. I'm confident that I can do much better, though. Just need a stronger cardio base.
Still a nice improvement, and next time, with a slower start, you'll be a good bit faster, so congrats! :D
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by PhilS1961 » April 15th, 2019, 2:51 pm

2k Test today.

Main goal. 7:29
Dream goal. 7:25

Result 7:19

It hurt, a lot.
I paced it really well.
I emptied the tank over the last 500 and the last 300 were strong but very, very hard.
I could not have gone faster today.

VERY chuffed with that.
57 years old
6'2 (188)
211 lbs (96kg)
Wingspan 194 cm
Been erging since Jan 2019.
1k=3:32.3
2k=7:19.3 (April 16 2019)
30:00 = 7638 (March 15 2019)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Tenshuu » April 15th, 2019, 3:27 pm

PhilS1961 wrote:
April 15th, 2019, 2:51 pm
2k Test today.

Main goal. 7:29
Dream goal. 7:25

Result 7:19

It hurt, a lot.
I paced it really well.
I emptied the tank over the last 500 and the last 300 were strong but very, very hard.
I could not have gone faster today.

VERY chuffed with that.
You savage. Update that Signature bud!

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by buzbee » April 15th, 2019, 4:09 pm

Broke my first PB today on the spur-on-the-moment effort. I've been focusing on building up my aerobic base so have mostly been doing long and slow sessions. I just had 30 minutes or so to work with today so I figured I'd try a 500m sprint.

I did my first 500m test three weeks ago, and it was a mess. For that one I went all-out from the beginning and died about 200 meters in. My 100m splits were 133.5, 133.0, 136.5, 141.0 and 145.0 for a 1:37.7 finish.

Today I thought I'd try to hang on to a consistent 1:35 pace. I suspected this was still unrealistically aggressive, but wanted to see what would happen.

It actually went pretty well. I did flame out at the end, but the first 400m were pretty much on target: 100m splits of 1:36.5, 1:34.5, 1:34.5 and 1:35.5. I was pretty wiped entering the last 100m. I'd read about a strategy of rating up with short strokes at the end and I tried that - but think I mostly just flopped around like a gasping fish out of water. Last 100m split was 1:38.9, resulting in a final time of 1:35.9. Still, happy with the overall effort.

Chart here: https://log.concept2.com/profile/203297/log/37893180

Now, back to regular training. I've been putting it off, but the plan is to establish a 2K time this Friday.
M60, 180cm/95kg (5'11"/210lb); 500m = 1:35.9; 2k = 7:17.8; 5k = 19:27.3; 10k = 40:45.8; HM = 1:29:33.1

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » April 15th, 2019, 4:38 pm

buzbee wrote:
April 15th, 2019, 4:09 pm
Broke my first PB today on the spur-on-the-moment effort. I've been focusing on building up my aerobic base so have mostly been doing long and slow sessions. I just had 30 minutes or so to work with today so I figured I'd try a 500m sprint.

I did my first 500m test three weeks ago, and it was a mess. For that one I went all-out from the beginning and died about 200 meters in. My 100m splits were 133.5, 133.0, 136.5, 141.0 and 145.0 for a 1:37.7 finish.

Today I thought I'd try to hang on to a consistent 1:35 pace. I suspected this was still unrealistically aggressive, but wanted to see what would happen.

It actually went pretty well. I did flame out at the end, but the first 400m were pretty much on target: 100m splits of 1:36.5, 1:34.5, 1:34.5 and 1:35.5. I was pretty wiped entering the last 100m. I'd read about a strategy of rating up with short strokes at the end and I tried that - but think I mostly just flopped around like a gasping fish out of water. Last 100m split was 1:38.9, resulting in a final time of 1:35.9. Still, happy with the overall effort.

Chart here: https://log.concept2.com/profile/203297/log/37893180

Now, back to regular training. I've been putting it off, but the plan is to establish a 2K time this Friday.
Well done. You gave just got to keep chipping away at it and you'll get better with practice and more training, and the progression you have shown here is testament to that.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by Dangerscouse » April 15th, 2019, 4:40 pm

PhilS1961 wrote:
April 15th, 2019, 2:51 pm
2k Test today.

Main goal. 7:29
Dream goal. 7:25

Result 7:19

It hurt, a lot.
I paced it really well.
I emptied the tank over the last 500 and the last 300 were strong but very, very hard.
I could not have gone faster today.

VERY chuffed with that.
That is an excellent PB Phil! Very happy for you too. To beat your dream target time by six seconds is HUGE in a 2k.
51 HWT; 6' 4"; 1k= 3:09; 2k= 6:36; 5k= 17:19; 6k= 20:47; 10k= 35:46 30mins= 8,488m 60mins= 16,618m HM= 1:16.47; FM= 2:40:41; 50k= 3:16:09; 100k= 7:52:44; 12hrs = 153km

"You reap what you row"

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » April 16th, 2019, 1:15 am

PhilS1961 wrote:
April 15th, 2019, 2:51 pm
2k Test today.

Main goal. 7:29
Dream goal. 7:25

Result 7:19

It hurt, a lot.
I paced it really well.
I emptied the tank over the last 500 and the last 300 were strong but very, very hard.
I could not have gone faster today.

VERY chuffed with that.
Well done Phil, that's a huge improvement, congrats!
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by MartinSH4321 » April 16th, 2019, 1:17 am

buzbee wrote:
April 15th, 2019, 4:09 pm
Broke my first PB today on the spur-on-the-moment effort. I've been focusing on building up my aerobic base so have mostly been doing long and slow sessions. I just had 30 minutes or so to work with today so I figured I'd try a 500m sprint.

I did my first 500m test three weeks ago, and it was a mess. For that one I went all-out from the beginning and died about 200 meters in. My 100m splits were 133.5, 133.0, 136.5, 141.0 and 145.0 for a 1:37.7 finish.

Today I thought I'd try to hang on to a consistent 1:35 pace. I suspected this was still unrealistically aggressive, but wanted to see what would happen.

It actually went pretty well. I did flame out at the end, but the first 400m were pretty much on target: 100m splits of 1:36.5, 1:34.5, 1:34.5 and 1:35.5. I was pretty wiped entering the last 100m. I'd read about a strategy of rating up with short strokes at the end and I tried that - but think I mostly just flopped around like a gasping fish out of water. Last 100m split was 1:38.9, resulting in a final time of 1:35.9. Still, happy with the overall effort.

Chart here: https://log.concept2.com/profile/203297/log/37893180

Now, back to regular training. I've been putting it off, but the plan is to establish a 2K time this Friday.
Well done, congrats! It's good if the last 100m are a bit slower, if not the first 400m were too slow/easy :-)
1983 Austria 1.86 94Kg
LP: 1:03.4 100m: 13.3 1': 392m 500m: 1:21.4
1k: 3:05 2k: 6:43 5k: 17:53 30': 8237m 30R20: 8088m 10k: 36:39
60': 16087m, HM: 1:19:42

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by PhilS1961 » April 16th, 2019, 6:18 am

Dangerscouse wrote:
April 15th, 2019, 4:40 pm
PhilS1961 wrote:
April 15th, 2019, 2:51 pm
2k Test today.

Main goal. 7:29
Dream goal. 7:25

Result 7:19

It hurt, a lot.
I paced it really well.
I emptied the tank over the last 500 and the last 300 were strong but very, very hard.
I could not have gone faster today.

VERY chuffed with that.
That is an excellent PB Phil! Very happy for you too. To beat your dream target time by six seconds is HUGE in a 2k.
Thanks. I'm a beginner so it's "beginners gains". I'm hoping to get closer to 7 before it levels out :-)
57 years old
6'2 (188)
211 lbs (96kg)
Wingspan 194 cm
Been erging since Jan 2019.
1k=3:32.3
2k=7:19.3 (April 16 2019)
30:00 = 7638 (March 15 2019)

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » April 16th, 2019, 12:42 pm

PhilS1961 wrote:
April 15th, 2019, 2:51 pm
2k Test today.

Main goal. 7:29
Dream goal. 7:25

Result 7:19

It hurt, a lot.
I paced it really well.
I emptied the tank over the last 500 and the last 300 were strong but very, very hard.
I could not have gone faster today.

VERY chuffed with that.
Great job!! Always fun to crush your goal!
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by KeithT » April 16th, 2019, 12:45 pm

buzbee wrote:
April 15th, 2019, 4:09 pm
Broke my first PB today on the spur-on-the-moment effort. I've been focusing on building up my aerobic base so have mostly been doing long and slow sessions. I just had 30 minutes or so to work with today so I figured I'd try a 500m sprint.

I did my first 500m test three weeks ago, and it was a mess. For that one I went all-out from the beginning and died about 200 meters in. My 100m splits were 133.5, 133.0, 136.5, 141.0 and 145.0 for a 1:37.7 finish.

Today I thought I'd try to hang on to a consistent 1:35 pace. I suspected this was still unrealistically aggressive, but wanted to see what would happen.

It actually went pretty well. I did flame out at the end, but the first 400m were pretty much on target: 100m splits of 1:36.5, 1:34.5, 1:34.5 and 1:35.5. I was pretty wiped entering the last 100m. I'd read about a strategy of rating up with short strokes at the end and I tried that - but think I mostly just flopped around like a gasping fish out of water. Last 100m split was 1:38.9, resulting in a final time of 1:35.9. Still, happy with the overall effort.

Chart here: https://log.concept2.com/profile/203297/log/37893180

Now, back to regular training. I've been putting it off, but the plan is to establish a 2K time this Friday.
You gotta love the "spur of the moment" PBs - I have done quite a few like that and for some reason they are extra satisfying.
56 yo, 6'3" 205# PBs (all since turning 50):
1 min - 376m, 500m - 1:21.3, 1K - 2:57.2, 4 min - 1305m, 2K - 6:27.8, 5K - 17:23, 30 min - 8444m, 10K - 35:54, 60 min - 16110, HM - 1:19:19, FM - 2:45:41

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Re: New Personal Best! Brag About That New Pb!

Post by ukaserex » April 16th, 2019, 4:25 pm

Phil,
Really fine result!

I know all too well how that last 100 meters feels, mentally and physically!
100M - 16.1 1 Min - 370 500M - 1:25.1 1k - 3:10.2 4:00 - 1216 2k 6:37.0 5k 17:58.8 6k - 21:54.1 30 Min. - 8130 10k - 37:49.7 60:00 - 15604
1/2 Marathon 1:28:44.3 Marathon 2:59:36

5'10"
215 lbs
53 years old

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