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mathineer
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by mathineer » October 17th, 2018, 8:11 am
just27 wrote: ↑October 16th, 2018, 6:08 pm
I used to row whatever happened, then did the math, and added a fixed number to reach a palindrome. Now, with the bikeErg portion of my daily meters being ofttimes cut in half, I just take what I get. (Palindromes still happen ... once in a blue moon.)
"Occasionally, palindromes happen." Sounds like one of those drug commercials where happy albeit afflicted people go happily about their happy lives made happy by the grace of the wonderful drug in question while happy music plays in the background and a happy announcer happily enumerates the numerous not-so-happy side effects of said wonderful drug, one side effect of which is ...occasionally, palindromes happen.
the happy mathineer, who is happily drug-free (if you exclude the occasional forced palindrome)
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Kona2
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Kona2
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by Kona2 » October 17th, 2018, 10:03 am
MILESTONES...Bragging Rights...Celebrations:
2.0 MM Minnie
700 K Danno
500 K Cornel ...a cool half million!
Thanks, everyone, for erging with us!
Trevor 279 m
Tony 1,111 m ...a singular palindrome!
Victor 2,000 m
Mathineer 2,176 m
Jason 2,177 m
Gman 2,198 m
Derric 5,000 m
Tom M 5,500 m
Doug 5,515 m
Dan O' 5,661 m
Steve W 6,058 m
Cornel 6,727 m
Gary 7,046 m
danwho![Image](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/Kona2007_bucket/Number%20Fun/7ofSpades1-1-1.jpg)
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m ....a lucky 7 palindrome! Whew...at least it's a full deck kind of palindrome...!
Baz 10,000 m
Dana 10,000 m
Dennis 10,000 m
David A 11,084 m
Jeff D 12,589 m
Danno 14,000 m
Ron 16,861 m ...a palindrome! Lucky 16s!
Minnie 18,482 m ...queen of the boat!
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lframari
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by lframari » October 17th, 2018, 11:49 am
Truthy wrote: ↑October 16th, 2018, 2:41 pm
Speaking of palindromes... Do you guys enter a fixed distance when you start or do you just starting rowing and catch the palindrome as you finish? 'coz it's too hard to catch it for me. I ended up finishing with distances like 15,052 and 16,062! Totally agree it's really a good motivation.
I will sometimes row a variety of pieces, then see where I am and then pick a palindrome downstream and put in a fixed row distance. I found out that 100 meters is the minimum fixed distance. I see how an accidental palindrome would be much more challenging, something to shoot for in the future.
Louie
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lframari
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by lframari » October 17th, 2018, 1:12 pm
lframari wrote: ↑October 17th, 2018, 11:49 am
Truthy wrote: ↑October 16th, 2018, 2:41 pm
Speaking of palindromes... Do you guys enter a fixed distance when you start or do you just starting rowing and catch the palindrome as you finish? 'coz it's too hard to catch it for me. I ended up finishing with distances like 15,052 and 16,062! Totally agree it's really a good motivation.
I will sometimes row a variety of pieces, then see where I am and then pick a palindrome downstream and put in a fixed row distance. I found out that 100 meters is the minimum fixed distance. I see how an accidental palindrome would be much more challenging, something to shoot for in the future.
Maybe for the next Team Challenge, Mathineer can identify PI to a fairly large number of digits and members of the team can all sign up to row subsets of the digits?
Louie
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just27
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by just27 » October 17th, 2018, 9:01 pm
Kona2 wrote: ↑October 17th, 2018, 10:03 am
Minnie 18,482 m ...queen of the boat!
I do so love being queen of the boat ... from whence came the "Minnie" moniker!
And, look how close that number came to a native (naturally occurring) palindrome!
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Kona2
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by Kona2 » October 17th, 2018, 10:47 pm
lframari wrote: ↑October 17th, 2018, 1:12 pm
lframari wrote: ↑October 17th, 2018, 11:49 am
Truthy wrote: ↑October 16th, 2018, 2:41 pm
Speaking of palindromes... Do you guys enter a fixed distance when you start or do you just starting rowing and catch the palindrome as you finish? 'coz it's too hard to catch it for me. I ended up finishing with distances like 15,052 and 16,062! Totally agree it's really a good motivation.
I will sometimes row a variety of pieces, then see where I am and then pick a palindrome downstream and put in a fixed row distance. I found out that 100 meters is the minimum fixed distance. I see how an accidental palindrome would be much more challenging, something to shoot for in the future.
Maybe for the next Team Challenge, Mathineer can identify PI to a fairly large number of digits and members of the team can all sign up to row subsets of the digits?
That would be fun
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mathineer
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by mathineer » October 18th, 2018, 8:27 am
lframari wrote: ↑October 17th, 2018, 1:12 pm
Maybe for the next Team Challenge, Mathineer can identify PI to a fairly large number of digits and members of the team can all sign up to row subsets of the digits?
Wouldn't that be irrational?
Regardless, I did the first four today, 3141. That may become one of my standard pieces. For a little longer row, there's always 2pi = 6282, or one and one half times round the circle for 9423, or 4pi = 12564 ...
mathineer
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Kona2
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by Kona2 » October 18th, 2018, 9:18 am
Some slyly clever wording with the irrational (i.e., decimal) .... snort. And before I knew it, there I was....down the bunny trail....
Another episode....bunny trails of the mind
Since we are talking about pi, rationally I would like 1/8 of a pumpkin pie. If we were to list out the gazillions of pi opportunities for erging numbers, I bet that just about any number of meters you wish to deposit into your meter piggy bank could be found in the not yet proven to be infinite set of numbers that defines pi. Martin Krzywinski is a scientist artist, a bioinformatics specialist who uses computer science and stats to understand biological data. Like several scientist artists, he has used color to help depict all these numeric relationships. And so we arrive eventually at something called the Feynman Point in the pi sequence....it is a unique point in pi where six 9's appear in a row, and is the big purple dot near the top of the circle (the more an individual number is repeated, the larger the dot). Krzywinski wanted his art to help start conversations about numbers and randomness, and minimize the angst (dislike and confusion) that many of us feel about math.
The six 9s occur at the 762nd decimal location in pi - and memorizing pi up to the point of the six nines is a worthy goal. No one really knows why the six 9s appearance notation is attributed to physicist Richard Feynman - especially his biographers.
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And now you know about something new.
Meanwhile, we're amazingly in a non-Challenge week. Enjoy it. The Challenges will be coming fast and furiouser in the next few months ...and we'll move into the two for one before we know it. There's something for everyone in these! And in an utterly random statement, there is nothing like spilled Cheerios to bring pups running.
MILESTONES....Bragging Rights...Celebrations:
1.1 MM Ian
750 K Stuart
550 K Greg F
350 K Gary
300 K Dana
50 K Lee
Thanks, everyone, for erging with us!
david w 2,000 m
Truthy 3,010 m
Gman 3,317 m
Jamie 4,000 m
Rebecca 5,000 m
William H 5,000 m
Bernie 6,027 m
Gary 7,113 m
Dana 7,591 m
Lee 10,000 m
Rosie 10,000 m
David A 11,112 m
Patrick S 12,187 m
Jonathan 14,622 m
Ian 16,883 m
Stuart 17,000 m
Minnie 17,512 m
Greg F 28,590 m ![🚲](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/s9e/emoji-assets-twemoji@11.2/dist/svgz/1f6b2.svgz)
Ed ![Image](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/Kona2007_bucket/Number%20Fun/Star3.gif)
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m ...a palindrome! And he moons us!
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lframari
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by lframari » October 18th, 2018, 6:22 pm
mathineer wrote: ↑October 18th, 2018, 8:27 am
lframari wrote: ↑October 17th, 2018, 1:12 pm
Maybe for the next Team Challenge, Mathineer can identify PI to a fairly large number of digits and members of the team can all sign up to row subsets of the digits?
Wouldn't that be irrational?
Regardless, I did the first four today, 3141. That may become one of my standard pieces. For a little longer row, there's always 2pi = 6282, or one and one half times round the circle for 9423, or 4pi = 12564 ...
mathineer
I tried the 4 PI today. Thanks to aptly named Mathineer for doing the math for me.
Louie
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TallErgs
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by TallErgs » October 18th, 2018, 8:58 pm
Thanks for the Pi trivia, that was an interesting read!
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Kona2
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by Kona2 » October 19th, 2018, 11:25 am
One potato, two potato, three potato, four.... Mathineer has gifted us with another symbolic category...
3141 m
6282 m
9423 m
12,564 m
Don't expect that I will catch all these as they come through...
MILESTONES...Bragging Rights...Celebrations:
550 K Dennis
150 K Victor
100 K David G
Thanks, everyone, for erging with us!
Gman 1,121 m
Victor 2,009 m
Kevin Mc 3,037 m
Mathineer 3,141 m ...![Image](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/Kona2007_bucket/Decorated%20images/pi%20symbol_zpslepk2fu2.png)
Trevor 4,003 m
Rebecca 5,000 m
Jason 5,145 m
Steve W 6,000 m
Russ ![Image](http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii240/Kona2007_bucket/Number%20Fun/arg-7-50-transa.gif)
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m ...a lucky 7s palindrome!
Vanessa 8,950 m
david w 9,820 m
Dennis 10,000 m
Derric 10,000 m
Lee 10,000 m
Todd 10,000 m
Patrick S 10,003 m
David A 11,057 m
Stuart 12,122 m
Tom M 12,500 m
Louie 12,564 m ![4️⃣](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/s9e/emoji-assets-twemoji@11.2/dist/svgz/0034-20e3.svgz)
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David G 12,988 m
Baz 15,000 m
danwho 15,551 m ...a palindrome with high fives in the middle!
Jonathan 16,894 m
Danno 17,000 m
Robert H 17,000 m
Greg F 28,202 m ![🚲](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/s9e/emoji-assets-twemoji@11.2/dist/svgz/1f6b2.svgz)
It was a moonless night....but all is well in Lunie land...
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by danwho » October 19th, 2018, 2:42 pm
Kona2 wrote: ↑October 19th, 2018, 11:25 am
danwho 15,551 m ...a palindrome with high fives in the middle!
And 15551 occurs at position 320336 in the decimal representation of pi (after the 3.).
And it occurs 2015 times in the first 200 million digits of pi.
I figured somebody would have made it easy to find out such things.
Here's one place: http://www.angio.net/pi/.
Can't tell you with certainty that it's correct, but I can tell you that it at least gives the same answer for the same sequence of digits each time. ![Very Happy :D](./images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif)
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Truthy
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by Truthy » October 19th, 2018, 11:08 pm
Apparently I finished The Fall Challenge 8th in the team and the team finished 8th overall. 8th rower of the 8th team. Almost sounds like 7th son of a 7th son
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Gotta go listen some Iron Maiden to commemorate the event.
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just27
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by just27 » October 20th, 2018, 1:01 am
danwho wrote: ↑October 19th, 2018, 2:42 pm
Kona2 wrote: ↑October 19th, 2018, 11:25 am
danwho 15,551 m ...a palindrome with high fives in the middle!
And 15551 occurs at position 320336 in the decimal representation of pi (after the 3.).
And it occurs 2015 times in the first 200 million digits of pi.
I figured somebody would have made it easy to find out such things.
Here's one place: http://www.angio.net/pi/.
Can't tell you with certainty that it's correct, but I can tell you that it at least gives the same answer for the same sequence of digits each time.
Hah ... I'm flashing on how the adults sound in the Charlie Brown clips ... "Wah Wa Wa Wah Wa Wa ... "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxC_AjFxS68