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[[old] dadams]

<!--quoteo(post=57688:date=Feb 28 2006, 12:32 PM:name=mumbles)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mumbles @ Feb 28 2006, 12:32 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>That's gonna hurt like h*** then! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Owen,<br />Now is the time to do it. Team Oarsome has caught up with us for second. Give it another go mate.<br /><br />Speedy

[[old] hjs]

<!--quoteo(post=57683:date=Feb 28 2006, 06:21 PM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 28 2006, 06:21 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57674:date=Feb 28 2006, 11:39 AM:name=mumbles)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mumbles @ Feb 28 2006, 11:39 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57669:date=Feb 28 2006, 11:31 AM:name=mpukita)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 28 2006, 11:31 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57666:date=Feb 28 2006, 11:21 AM:name=mumbles)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mumbles @ Feb 28 2006, 11:21 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Mark, your coming to Evesham? That's great news, will do my absolute best to be there!<br /><br />Owen <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Owen, if I can fly across the pond to be there, you had best be there, or I'll stalk you down and ... oops, forgot, you're a rather large lad ... <br /><br /> <br /><br />Tried the CTC again today. Must be too beat from Saturday's race because I could not come within a half second of my previous best. Gawd, I am slow!<br /><br />Sorry mates!<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I'll be there unless i am racing OTW , will attempt 300m again tomorrow been saying that for 2 weeks now .<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Owen:<br /><br />I believe tomorrow is too late, yes? Isn't it March 1, time for the <b>Rugby Test</b>?<br /><br /><b>Also, a question for the group </b> ... at least the more "senior" members.<br /><br />How long does it typically take for you to recuperate from a race? I have been finding that it's a good 3 or 4 days for me, which is surprising, as I would have thought a day or two at most, and I'd be good to go.<br /><br />My 300M attempt this morning was miserible. I raced Saturday, took Sunday off, did 2 recovery rows yesterday (about 10K total in two 5K pieces, strapless and easy), and tried the 300M today. I felt like crap afterward, and did a 20'@20SPM piece that was miserible the entire way ... slow, painful, sweaty ... every pull was an effort. And the pace was 2:09.3, when my very best 30'@20SPM pace is 2:06.2 ... so it was not a very taxing or speedy workout by that standard.<br /><br />Most of you here that are anywhere near my age have been rowing longer than me, so are more fit, and maybe you recover faster. I have another race on Sunday, and I'm thinking that scheduling two races two weeks in a row is probably something that it's not wise to do again, if it truly takes me 3 or 4 days to recover. What's the point? How could it be possible to improve much, or at all, if it's 3 or 4 days to recuperate? Then, one or two "real" days of training, a day off, and another race. And that assumes the first race is on Saturday, and the second is on Sunday.<br /><br />Your thoughts?<br /><br />Thanks -- Mark<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Mark if you race hard and dig deep you need at least a full week to recover. real recovery rows should be done at real slow pace. Re,ember it's not the training that makes you better but the build up done bye your body afterwards. <br /><br />ps Certainly above 40. You are not ranger who recovers in 60 min. yeah right <br />

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=57698:date=Feb 28 2006, 01:04 PM:name=hjs)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Feb 28 2006, 01:04 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Mark if you race hard and dig deep you need at least a full week to recover. real recovery rows should be done at real slow pace. Re,ember it's not the training that makes you better but the build up done bye your body afterwards. <br /><br />ps Certainly above 40. You are not ranger who recovers in 60 min. yeah right <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />From weight training, I know that the building-up takes place while "resting" not working out, but seem to forget this with aerobic activity ... to me it seems like every meter, or every mile, is putting "money in the bank" ... more meters, more money ... more rest, less money ... at least until the effects of overtraining kick in, and I don't believe I'm anywhere near that limit.<br /><br /> <br /><br />Since I had nothing left on Saturday, for the first time really, I expected recovery to take a while ... but the way I felt today surprised me. Not even sure tomorrow will be a worthwhile workout (except for more recovery purposes, which I know is worthwhile in a different way). And, I'm eating well, sleeping well, and watching alcohol intake (almost nothing).<br />

[[old] wilko51]

<!--quoteo(post=57525:date=Feb 27 2006, 11:29 PM:name=philt)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(philt @ Feb 27 2006, 11:29 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57496:date=Feb 27 2006, 09:41 PM:name=chippy)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(chippy @ Feb 27 2006, 09:41 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Phil T<br /><br />See you have overtaken me in the c2ctc on one leg, Nice going fella.<br /><br />I think that Chad is really the pirate,when we go to London in a few weeks ill try and beat it out of him. <br /><br /><br />Chippy <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br /> You knew I couldn't be down for long. I don't think the consultant would have been too impressed with what I did but all felt well in warm up so thought I would go for it. My back was a bit sore afterwards, I think I was slightly twisted to ensure not too much pressure applied through the right foot. To mark my return I decided to do this in my AIO, its inaugral row. I can tell it will be quick. <br /><br /><br />Not convinced I can/should do the Rugby test but everything is meant to be back to normal by 20th March. I then just need to build my CV up again. Don't think I will be ready for London but Evesham could be good.<br /><br />Phil<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Good to see you back Phil....big question is whether you'll make it to 1,000,000 meters this season? What are the chances?<br /><br />Mike<br />

[[old] philt]

<!--quoteo(post=57722:date=Feb 28 2006, 10:09 PM:name=wilko51)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(wilko51 @ Feb 28 2006, 10:09 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57525:date=Feb 27 2006, 11:29 PM:name=philt)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(philt @ Feb 27 2006, 11:29 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--quoteo(post=57496:date=Feb 27 2006, 09:41 PM:name=chippy)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(chippy @ Feb 27 2006, 09:41 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Phil T<br /><br />See you have overtaken me in the c2ctc on one leg, Nice going fella.<br /><br />I think that Chad is really the pirate,when we go to London in a few weeks ill try and beat it out of him. <br /><br /><br />Chippy <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br /> You knew I couldn't be down for long. I don't think the consultant would have been too impressed with what I did but all felt well in warm up so thought I would go for it. My back was a bit sore afterwards, I think I was slightly twisted to ensure not too much pressure applied through the right foot. To mark my return I decided to do this in my AIO, its inaugral row. I can tell it will be quick. <br /><br /><br />Not convinced I can/should do the Rugby test but everything is meant to be back to normal by 20th March. I then just need to build my CV up again. Don't think I will be ready for London but Evesham could be good.<br /><br />Phil<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Good to see you back Phil....big question is whether you'll make it to 1,000,000 meters this season? What are the chances?<br /><br />Mike<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Timely reminder Mike, I hadn't looked at my overall metres for a long time and had forgotten my commitment to make 1,000,000 metres this year. It's only 120K to go, yeah still hopeful. <br /><br />Physio reassured me today that all is normal so I try a bit harder thisweek.<br /><br />Phil<br /><br />

[[old] Citroen]

<!--quoteo(post=57525:date=Feb 27 2006, 11:29 PM:name=philt)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(philt @ Feb 27 2006, 11:29 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Not convinced I can/should do the Rugby test but everything is meant to be back to normal by 20th March. I then just need to build my CV up again. Don't think I will be ready for London but Evesham could be good.<br /><br />Phil<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />How about entering the Kingston Uni 2K on 22nd April? I've sent in my entry for that one.<br /><a href="http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9761" target="_blank">http://concept2.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9761</a>

[[old] adambalogh]

<br /><br />How long does it typically take for you to recuperate from a race? I have been finding that it's a good 3 or 4 days for me, which is surprising, as I would have thought a day or two at most, and I'd be good to go.<br /><br /><br />Most of you here that are anywhere near my age have been rowing longer than me, so are more fit, and maybe you recover faster. I have another race on Sunday, and I'm thinking that scheduling two races two weeks in a row is probably something that it's not wise to do again, if it truly takes me 3 or 4 days to recover. What's the point? How could it be possible to improve much, or at all, if it's 3 or 4 days to recuperate? Then, one or two "real" days of training, a day off, and another race. And that assumes the first race is on Saturday, and the second is on Sunday.<br /><br />Your thoughts?<br /><br />Thanks -- Mark<br />[/quote]<br /><br /><br />Mark<br /><br />Takes me several days to truly feel good about higher intensity pieces of any substance. i survived L2 workouts monday morning after racing saturday. <br /><br />the benefit of scheduling many races is having more practice with the race-day jitters, etc.<br /><br />Adam

[[old] seat5]

New Hm PB today, 30 sec improvement <br />1:28:41.3 2::06.1 24 spm (slides, just like the last one)<br /><br />Stopped for water 4 times<br />Mostly 9 or 10 spm but took a few thousand here and there unrestricted to rest<br />Ended with a 200m sprint at somewhere in the mid 1:40s<br /><br />All that for only 7 more Nonathlon points!<br /><br />It was fun to be ahead of the pace boat all the way. If I try again I'm afraid I'll be gasping to keep up

[[old] Brendo]

Well done Carla that's a full 8 and a half minutes better than mine <br /><br />I'm just back from a week out with flu but i managed a slow 5.5K yesterday and 3.5 the day before. So when better to take the Rugby test I thought so I did. I must say I hate sprints (the 300m ones hurt my knees too much) but at leat with this you can do some sort of pacing.<br /><br />I'm itching to get my times into the CTC website so I can be in Taff Attack boat one for about 10 minutes. before the quicks do the test for the first time. I'm not cheating as it is the 1st of March down here in Australia, trouble is, I'm going out later and you can bet the site gets changed while I'm out:-)<br /><br />Ah well - boat 5 has lots of nice people in it too<br /><br />I did 12:14.8<br /><br />1000 @ 1:54.7<br />750 @ 1:52.4<br />500 @ 1:53.1<br />250 @ 1:47.2 - hit 170 heart rate here so shows how unfit I still am<br />750 @1:53.4<br /><br />I've set it in my favourites so I'll have another go or 5 during the month<br /><br />Brendin<br /><br /><br /><br />

[[old] adambalogh]

<!--quoteo(post=57756:date=Feb 28 2006, 10:28 PM:name=Brendo)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Brendo @ Feb 28 2006, 10:28 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Well done Carla that's a full 8 and a half minutes better than mine <br /><br />I'm just back from a week out with flu but i managed a slow 5.5K yesterday and 3.5 the day before. So when better to take the Rugby test I thought so I did. I must say I hate sprints (the 300m ones hurt my knees too much) but at leat with this you can do some sort of pacing.<br /><br />I'm itching to get my times into the CTC website so I can be in Taff Attack boat one for about 10 minutes. before the quicks do the test for the first time. I'm not cheating as it is the 1st of March down here in Australia, trouble is, I'm going out later and you can bet the site gets changed while I'm out:-)<br /><br />Ah well - boat 5 has lots of nice people in it too<br /><br />I did 12:14.8<br /><br />1000 @ 1:54.7<br />750 @ 1:52.4<br />500 @ 1:53.1<br />250 @ 1:47.2 - hit 170 heart rate here so shows how unfit I still am<br />750 @1:53.4<br /><br />I've set it in my favourites so I'll have another go or 5 during the month<br /><br />Brendin<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Brendin<br /><br />nice job with the rugby test. how did you feel during it?<br /><br />Adam

[[old] Brendo]

Adam - thanks<br /><br />Felt like I should have gone a bit harder on the 1K, everybody says that the last 750 is a killer so I think I held back. The last 750 is tough, I could definitely feel my form going at times as I tried to maintain the pace. It's a couple of hours now and I have done a 6K in between and my legs still feel strong, which confirms I didn't go hard enough.<br /><br />As an aside, its a pretty good view of general fitness measured by how much your heart rate recovers in the rest periods. I wuld have liked to see mine recover some more.<br /><br />I like it MUCH more than the 300m where i was an injury waiting to happen, at least with this one you get a warmup before doing the 250m <br /><br />Lets see how it goes - my target is sub 12 mins at the moment<br /><br />Brendin

[[old] mumbles]

Wales is white! At least down Swansea way , no school for me so off to throw snowballs at much younger children , Happy Snow Day! 8)

[[old] Brendo]

And a happy St Davids Day to all Taffs<br /><br />only an hour to go here in Oz

[[old] mpukita]

<!--quoteo(post=57763:date=Mar 1 2006, 12:07 AM:name=Brendo)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Brendo @ Mar 1 2006, 12:07 AM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Adam - thanks<br /><br />Felt like I should have gone a bit harder on the 1K, everybody says that the last 750 is a killer so I think I held back. The last 750 is tough, I could definitely feel my form going at times as I tried to maintain the pace. It's a couple of hours now and I have done a 6K in between and my legs still feel strong, which confirms I didn't go hard enough.<br /><br />As an aside, its a pretty good view of general fitness measured by how much your heart rate recovers in the rest periods. I wuld have liked to see mine recover some more.<br /><br />I like it MUCH more than the 300m where i was an injury waiting to happen, at least with this one you get a warmup before doing the 250m <br /><br />Lets see how it goes - my target is sub 12 mins at the moment<br /><br />Brendin<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Brendin:<br /><br />What's your PB or SB 2K time? I have a calculator I've built for doing L1 Wolverine Plan Pyramid workouts, and this is <b>roughly </b> equivalent to one of those (type and lengths of rest are slightly different). It spits out paces for each piece, based on the distance-averaged target pace for the entire L1 workout. I can then compare this to my 2K best, to see how it stacks up. <br /><br />I've used it a few times now, and have started to have it's prediction ability "regress" to what I believe are the percentages one needs to apply to the target distance averaged pace, <b>to get the pace for each individual piece</b>. I can take a 2K best, map it to the distance averaged pace that your 2K time would predict, and spit out suggested paces for each piece, just for grins.<br /><br />I'd be glad to do this for anyone that wants to send me a 2K pace that's equivalent to your "best" at this time, an SB, or a PB, your choice.<br /><br />Thanks ... Mark<br /><br />PS - Hope this makes sense ... hard for me to explain. Sorry!<br /><br /><!--quoteo(post=57753:date=Feb 28 2006, 09:44 PM:name=seat5)--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(seat5 @ Feb 28 2006, 09:44 PM) </b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>New Hm PB today, 30 sec improvement <br />1:28:41.3 2::06.1 24 spm (slides, just like the last one)<br /><br />Stopped for water 4 times<br />Mostly 9 or 10 spm but took a few thousand here and there unrestricted to rest<br />Ended with a 200m sprint at somewhere in the mid 1:40s<br /><br />All that for only 7 more Nonathlon points!<br /><br />It was fun to be ahead of the pace boat all the way. If I try again I'm afraid I'll be gasping to keep up <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Carla:<br /><br />Congratulations, and nice row!<br /><br />Regards ... Mark

[[old] Brendo]

Mark<br /><br />My best 2k is 7:44.0<br />My best 1K is 3:44.8<br />My best .5K is 1:44.3<br /><br /><br />PB and SB are the same I only got the rower in December<br /><br />Let me know<br />Brendin