General discussion on Training. How to get better on your erg, how to use your erg to get better at another sport, or anything else about improving your abilities.
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hjs
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by hjs » September 8th, 2017, 5:02 am
-marius- wrote:hjs wrote:
Start looking around for some racing, you certainly could do well. Around 6.10 not that many 40 years are to be found.
Might be attending the Norwegian indoor rowing championship early 2018, unfortunately it seems like they are running 1000m in the masters class

6:10 is still far away
I will do a test run soon with a pace around 1:34.5/500m for the first 1500m then all in on the last 500m. If I can do the last 500m faster than 1:34.5 pace then my time will be sub 6:18.0, will be very happy if I can manage that.
Work on the mindset, 6.10 is certainly not there yet, but you still improve rapidly, and more important, you still train like a relative Newby. You still can build a big aerobic base. This goes relative slow though, lots of good solid meters at relative easy pace do this.
Try to build your longer sessions. But do not race them.
Expect that sub 6.18 soon.
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by -marius- » September 8th, 2017, 7:42 am
hjs wrote:-marius- wrote:hjs wrote:
Start looking around for some racing, you certainly could do well. Around 6.10 not that many 40 years are to be found.
Might be attending the Norwegian indoor rowing championship early 2018, unfortunately it seems like they are running 1000m in the masters class

6:10 is still far away
I will do a test run soon with a pace around 1:34.5/500m for the first 1500m then all in on the last 500m. If I can do the last 500m faster than 1:34.5 pace then my time will be sub 6:18.0, will be very happy if I can manage that.
Work on the mindset, 6.10 is certainly not there yet, but you still improve rapidly, and more important, you still train like a relative Newby. You still can build a big aerobic base. This goes relative slow though, lots of good solid meters at relative easy pace do this.
Try to build your longer sessions. But do not race them.
Expect that sub 6.18 soon.
Will do Sir

Starting a new program(for 2K) in the end of September, until then I will follow PP workouts.
41y/o, 187cm, 93kg
PBs(Ski/Row): 500m 1:17.4 WR/1:23.5 -- 1K 2:49.3 WR/2:59.5 -- 2K 6:17.0/6:17.0 -- 5K 17:10.2/16:45.5 -- 6K 20:18.3 -- 10K/r24 35:24.7 -- 1' 396m WR -- 4' 1346m WR/1306m -- 30' 8420m/8659m
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by Gammmmo » September 8th, 2017, 8:01 am
@marius - imagine if you could (eventually) go sub6...how cool would that be?

Paul, 49M, 5'11" 83kg (sprint PBs HWT), ex biker now lifting
Deadlift=190kg, LP=1:15, 100m=15.7s, 1min=350m

Targets: 14s (100m), 355m+ 1min, 1:27(500m), 3:11(1K)
Erg on!
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by JerekKruger » September 8th, 2017, 8:27 am
-marius- wrote:Will do Sir

Starting a new program(for 2K) in the end of September, until then I will follow PP workouts.
Out of interest, what program?
Tom | 33 | 6'6" | 93kg

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by -marius- » September 8th, 2017, 9:09 am
Gammmmo wrote:@marius - imagine if you could (eventually) go sub6...how cool would that be?

It would be very cool, but I know that's not going to happen when you start rowing at 40yo

Not getting any younger
@JerekKruger - It's a program from the SUB7 IRC team
41y/o, 187cm, 93kg
PBs(Ski/Row): 500m 1:17.4 WR/1:23.5 -- 1K 2:49.3 WR/2:59.5 -- 2K 6:17.0/6:17.0 -- 5K 17:10.2/16:45.5 -- 6K 20:18.3 -- 10K/r24 35:24.7 -- 1' 396m WR -- 4' 1346m WR/1306m -- 30' 8420m/8659m
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hjs
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by hjs » September 8th, 2017, 9:24 am
Gammmmo wrote:@marius - imagine if you could (eventually) go sub6...how cool would that be?

Not likely. Only a handfull 40 plus guys got there, and only one pure erger. But atm there is no need to limit a goal, lots to gain. Both pure aerobic base as power per stroke are still very trainable.
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by ItalianRower » September 10th, 2017, 8:00 am
Hjs there are plenty of rowers and ergers who are sub 6 nowadays, I think with a serious plan he can get there.
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by hjs » September 10th, 2017, 11:35 am
ItalianRower wrote:Hjs there are plenty of rowers and ergers who are sub 6 nowadays, I think with a serious plan he can get there.
Plenty of sub 6 rowers ofcourse. But NOT 40 plus years old. We are talking of those.
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by -marius- » September 14th, 2017, 2:56 am
New 30' PB. Not my favorite distance(a bit to long for my taste) but managed to improve from 8504m to 8659m
Time Meters Pace Watts Cal/Hr S/M
30:00.0 8,659m 1:43.9 312 1371 28
5:00.0 1,405m 1:46.7 288 1288 26
10:00.0 1,417m 1:45.8 295 1314 26
15:00.0 1,431m 1:44.8 304 1344 28
20:00.0 1,450m 1:43.4 316 1387 29
25:00.0 1,461m 1:42.6 323 1411 30
30:00.0 1,495m 1:40.3 347 1491 33
41y/o, 187cm, 93kg
PBs(Ski/Row): 500m 1:17.4 WR/1:23.5 -- 1K 2:49.3 WR/2:59.5 -- 2K 6:17.0/6:17.0 -- 5K 17:10.2/16:45.5 -- 6K 20:18.3 -- 10K/r24 35:24.7 -- 1' 396m WR -- 4' 1346m WR/1306m -- 30' 8420m/8659m
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by Gammmmo » September 14th, 2017, 3:31 am
^ getting some serious ergo scores now, marius...just think what you COULD do if you were taken under the wing of a coach or similar...

For a HWT you're not even THAT big either.
Paul, 49M, 5'11" 83kg (sprint PBs HWT), ex biker now lifting
Deadlift=190kg, LP=1:15, 100m=15.7s, 1min=350m

Targets: 14s (100m), 355m+ 1min, 1:27(500m), 3:11(1K)
Erg on!
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by -marius- » September 14th, 2017, 8:31 am
Gammmmo wrote:^ getting some serious ergo scores now, marius...just think what you COULD do if you were taken under the wing of a coach or similar...

For a HWT you're not even THAT big either.
Was hoping for a MWT class
I'm getting a program from SUB7 so it is ongoing to get a more organized training.
41y/o, 187cm, 93kg
PBs(Ski/Row): 500m 1:17.4 WR/1:23.5 -- 1K 2:49.3 WR/2:59.5 -- 2K 6:17.0/6:17.0 -- 5K 17:10.2/16:45.5 -- 6K 20:18.3 -- 10K/r24 35:24.7 -- 1' 396m WR -- 4' 1346m WR/1306m -- 30' 8420m/8659m
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by hjs » September 14th, 2017, 9:16 am
-marius- wrote:Gammmmo wrote:^ getting some serious ergo scores now, marius...just think what you COULD do if you were taken under the wing of a coach or similar...

For a HWT you're not even THAT big either.
Was hoping for a MWT class
I'm getting a program from SUB7 so it is ongoing to get a more organized training.
Top heavyweights are often below 100kg, you are certainly not a middleweight. That class will never come btw.
A sub7 program will be pp like.
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by mdpfirrman » September 14th, 2017, 9:42 am
Congrats on the new PBs Marius. More to come from you I have a feeling! That sub 17 5K is impressive for sure. That is a light crowd over 40 that can do that.
Mike Pfirrman
53 Yrs old, 5' 10" / 185 lbs (177cm/84kg)
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by Anth_F » September 14th, 2017, 2:05 pm
Impressive Marius... impressive

46 yo male 5'10 88kg (Rowing since june 9th 2016) PB's 5k 19:22 30min 7518m
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by -marius- » September 15th, 2017, 3:45 am
hjs wrote:
Top heavyweights are often below 100kg, you are certainly not a middleweight. That class will never come btw.
A sub7 program will be pp like.
I believe I saw an announcement some time ago regarding a indoor rowing competition that would test out MWT next year, but do not remember which one.
At the end of a training week I'm now around 89kg in the morning, but use the weekends to eat my weight up again so I start a new week at 91kg
The SUB7 program might be a PP clone but it is still a change that is welcome. I can do max 5 sessions(and try to limit them to max 1 hour) of rowing per week so I guess there are limitations to what kind of programs I can use. Currently rowing about 50K's a week.
41y/o, 187cm, 93kg
PBs(Ski/Row): 500m 1:17.4 WR/1:23.5 -- 1K 2:49.3 WR/2:59.5 -- 2K 6:17.0/6:17.0 -- 5K 17:10.2/16:45.5 -- 6K 20:18.3 -- 10K/r24 35:24.7 -- 1' 396m WR -- 4' 1346m WR/1306m -- 30' 8420m/8659m