Shawn Baker training

[Anth_F]

I want to make it clear that i have no ill feelings towards Paul! This most certainly is a community, and with facebook taking over so much most forums i am a member of are dead nowadays with zero participation because of it. So it's nice to come here and see lively activity, and a forum thats still ticking over very well. The last thing i want is seeing people gone from here, but there are instances where unfortunately it needs to be. I wish that Paul could mend his ways and behave better, show a bit more respect in his posts etc. Nobody likes being spoken to in a disrespectful way, or you can expect the same right back at you.

We are all here for the same reason at the end of the day... we love rowing and have lots of passion for it which is a great thing.

[edinborogh]

[quote="paul45"]Short summery.

10 x 400m/4'r first 6 reps at r24

i assume that 4'r means 4 minutes rest while r24 is the spm?

[Droode]

Sad as it seems this thread titled "Shawn Baker training" is already in trouble.

[hjs]

Sad as it seems this thread titled "Shawn Baker training" is already in trouble.

Should be renamed, could be the solution

[Droode]

Sad as it seems this thread titled "Shawn Baker training" is already in trouble.

Should be renamed, could be the solution

Any ideas?

[hjs]

Sad as it seems this thread titled "Shawn Baker training" is already in trouble.

Should be renamed, could be the solution

Any ideas?

Hmm tricky, let me think about it. First working title could be "the hardest working man in indoorrowing"

[CaseyClarke]

I think the best solution would be to create a thread specifically for Paul. Call it paul45 training. Don't allow him to post anywhere other than this thread. Kind of like his own blog. People can then choose to interact there, or not, as they see fit.

Create another sprint thread, or ask that the locked one be unlocked.

[Anth_F]

Hmm tricky, let me think about it. First working title could be "the hardest working man in indoorrowing"

Defo a title suited to me that

[Anth_F]

or ask that the locked one be unlocked.

People have already asked! i can gather from Doug's response in this thread that it will remain locked permanently.

Damn shame.

And the thread had actually gotten back on track with Ed's post. Sometimes best to just let things flow unless it gets seriously out of hand with either threats or profane language etc.

[aharmer]

Paul, when I started this thread it was with hopes that Shawn would continue posting his info here. I asked that Shawn and only Shawn post here. You can respect that right?

People want to see Shawn's training. If somebody wants to see your training, or hear about who you're mad at, they will request it.

[Droode]

Unfortunate that some silliness has transpired- it's not appropriate that I have my own thread as this forum is not set up for training logs (although it would be nice if it were) good to see more people taking an interest in the sprints as the concept 2 it a pretty good platform to work on that side of the fitness equation

Please read what Shawn says here. I also have a right to put up my training, right.

As mentioned read what Shawn wrote, 2nd line down, more people it says.

I thought I read somewhere you wanted your account deleted.

[Droode]

or ask that the locked one be unlocked.

People have already asked! i can gather from Doug's response in this thread that it will remain locked permanently.

Damn shame.

And the thread had actually gotten back on track with Ed's post. Sometimes best to just let things flow unless it gets seriously out of hand with either threats or profane language etc.

I also feel it was locked a bit abruptly no one was being hurt imo just noise/nonsense which is easily ignored. Ranger's thread was a lot more aggressive and had 1100 more pages.

[Edward4492]

Since my name came up, I'd like to re-state my premise (question). Does high intensity, Shawn Baker style training truly lead to an increase in aerobic capacity? Particularly in view of the fact that the bulk of the competitive rowing world revolves predominantly around 2000m. Masters OTW is a notable (and thankful!) exception as we raced 1000m OTW sprints. College rowing? 2k. Need to get into college? 2k erg score. I literally just spoke to a parent this morning who "needs" to get his kids 2k score down so he has a shot at the boat he wants to row in. It seems to be widely accepted that a 2000m is predominantly aerobic, I read numbers in the 70% to 80% range.

Seems to me that with Shawn's total devotion to abbreviated, brutal power training he would be an ideal candidate to see what he could pull at 2k. And I'll re-state it, Paul may be a better subject.....he's closer to the rest of us in ability and by his own definition works hard ala Shawn Baker short brutal training style. Would be an eye opener to compare 500m and 2k test results.

Has anybody else had experience with this? (hope this is relevant since we're talking "Shawn Baker Training".

[hjs]

Since my name came up, I'd like to re-state my premise (question). Does high intensity, Shawn Baker style training truly lead to an increase in aerobic capacity? Particularly in view of the fact that the bulk of the competitive rowing world revolves predominantly around 2000m. Masters OTW is a notable (and thankful!) exception as we raced 1000m OTW sprints. College rowing? 2k. Need to get into college? 2k erg score. I literally just spoke to a parent this morning who "needs" to get his kids 2k score down so he has a shot at the boat he wants to row in. It seems to be widely accepted that a 2000m is predominantly aerobic, I read numbers in the 70% to 80% range.

Seems to me that with Shawn's total devotion to abbreviated, brutal power training he would be an ideal candidate to see what he could pull at 2k. And I'll re-state it, Paul may be a better subject.....he's closer to the rest of us in ability and by his own definition works hard ala Shawn Baker short brutal training style. Would be an eye opener to compare 500m and 2k test results.

Has anybody else had experience with this? (hope this is relevant since we're talking "Shawn Baker Training".

Last season did less aerobic work and tried more strenght, speed work, never got my 500 really going,1k was good, raced 3 2k s, which where all three pretty horrible, not super slow, but did hurt like hell.
Year before I was aerobicly fitter, pulled a faster and less painfull 2k.

[lwtguy]

Since my name came up, I'd like to re-state my premise (question). Does high intensity, Shawn Baker style training truly lead to an increase in aerobic capacity? Particularly in view of the fact that the bulk of the competitive rowing world revolves predominantly around 2000m. Masters OTW is a notable (and thankful!) exception as we raced 1000m OTW sprints. College rowing? 2k. Need to get into college? 2k erg score. I literally just spoke to a parent this morning who "needs" to get his kids 2k score down so he has a shot at the boat he wants to row in. It seems to be widely accepted that a 2000m is predominantly aerobic, I read numbers in the 70% to 80% range.

Seems to me that with Shawn's total devotion to abbreviated, brutal power training he would be an ideal candidate to see what he could pull at 2k. And I'll re-state it, Paul may be a better subject.....he's closer to the rest of us in ability and by his own definition works hard ala Shawn Baker short brutal training style. Would be an eye opener to compare 500m and 2k test results.

Has anybody else had experience with this? (hope this is relevant since we're talking "Shawn Baker Training".

Ed, If you're a big strong guy you can get through a 2K with brute force. It might be a "good" 2K, but that word is only relative. It certainly will not be your best possible 2K. With Shawn's training (I believe his goal was to break 1K records), he would never reach the kind of 2K times that the Elite guys can get. But he can certainly "fake" his way to a decent PB. I wouldn't be surprised if he was in the low 6:00 range, maybe even slightly under 6. That may seem like an amazing time to us regular folks but again, it's all relative.
To put it in perspective, there are Elite athletes that can break 6:00 on multiple 2Ks. Hell, the world record 5K is a sub 1:30 pace.

I also would bet that he could give an Olympian a run for his money in a 1K sprint.