Shouldn't require much pencil pushing. Summng only the listed distances of the pyramid and ignoring the dots which may or may not represent an additional iteration of 2k and maybe a couple 4k, I get 76k total meters rowed. Assuming done in a 5hr. time window and ignoring that most mortals take breaks in interval format, that's 15.2k per hr. Average pace 1:58.4/500m. Fast enuf for a 2:46:xx.x full marathon, which is above 90th percentile in men's open rankings 16 and '17 seasons. Have you done a continuous FM yet Edinboro? You should do! Hate to see a feller hide his light under a bushel as me old pappy was ust to say.edinborogh wrote:it takes around an hour to get to 6K-8K depends on hard you push, then from 10K upwards ( downward ) it takes an hour for each session. i like that progress, it makes me feel like a good workout. i can control my pace, work on my posture, technic...hjs wrote:If I would do such a session I would start with 1m Yours would take all day? Why, really why?, go outside, walk, cycle swim, work the garden, anything but this. I strongly advice against it.edinborogh wrote:i would recommend a progressive training.
today, i am doing ascending and descending pyramid as such:
1K,2K...6K, 8k,10k,12k and then backwards - 12K,10K,8K,6K....1K.
this will help your body to adjust, improve your body resistance to injury, get a better cardio, and get faster on the erg.
naturally, you can start your pyramid smaller 1k,2k,3,2k,1k and then add another interval whenever you feel ready.
few months back i couldnt do more then 5 sessions of 500 meters, since then i lost 14 Kg, and im able to row longer sessions.
i am finishing work everyday at around 5PM, and the gym near my office is open until 10PM, so time wise i have enough.
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Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll go with the Interactive 2k. As you note, it starts with some aerobic work. Plus it builds in some 2k testing, which will let me make refinements as I work through the program.jackarabit wrote:Jerg writes:
The Interactive 2k Programme @ experience level 1 will build some aerobic zone volume before introducing anaerobic load.two reasonable programming options (both from ISS links you posted) would be either:
1. Basic Conditioning program
2. Interactive 2
The "original" or Preset 2k also at Indoor Sports Services would provide a similar base-building start as would the Basic Conditioning.
The Pete Beginner load could be scaled to suit your current progress and physical limitation.
All good.
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Indeed the 2k test in wk. 13 will give you a firmed up datum for use in determining HR zone and training power targets. But first thing be cautious and keep your back and yourself in the game. 3 days erg and 3 lifting will be a challenging schedule.
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Shouldn't require much pencil pushing. Summng only the listed distances of the pyramid and ignoring the dots which may or may not represent an additional iteration of 2k and maybe a couple 4k, I get 76k total meters rowed. Assuming done in a 5hr. time window and ignoring that most mortals take breaks in interval format, that's 15.2k per hr. Average pace 1:58.4/500m. Fast enuf for a 2:46:xx.x full marathon, which is above 90th percentile in men's open rankings 16 and '17 seasons. Have you done a continuous FM yet Edinboro? You should do! Hate to see a feller hide his light under a bushel as me old pappy was ust to say. [/quote]
indeed!
FM was a strange experience. i do believe that the breakthrough was done by realising that long distances is not as scary as i thought. over the week i dont feel the strain, but weekends are different. ill try to give an example -
yesterday i had 4 hours, so i did 6K,8K and 10K. took a walk around ( im afraid of back injuries so im trying to be attentive to that ), then did 10K and 8K. my drag factor ( i believe it to be considered ) is low - around 110, but i really enjoy the millage accumulation. the strange thing is that although i see improvements in FM split times, they are very small, and progressing very slow. i thought that quitting smoking, doing FM's, and working hard will show better improvements.
the biggest improvements are with the way my body feels - im still losing weight. that was important to me. i thought that if i stop smoking i will gain weight. also, i feel more refreshed after work out and im not "dead". after a FM i do have some pain ( gluteus i think ) and i try to solve it by using a thick towel on the sit.
but defiantly loosing weight is the best part of it. i am so grateful for having the courage to row. it started very hard, continued very hard ( motivation, lack of progress, getting lost with all the plans, proper technic which is still a thing to work on ) - but guys here on the forum have been a huge help and inspiration. i hope that i will lose enough weight to convince my wife to allow me to purchase a C2 machine.
indeed!
FM was a strange experience. i do believe that the breakthrough was done by realising that long distances is not as scary as i thought. over the week i dont feel the strain, but weekends are different. ill try to give an example -
yesterday i had 4 hours, so i did 6K,8K and 10K. took a walk around ( im afraid of back injuries so im trying to be attentive to that ), then did 10K and 8K. my drag factor ( i believe it to be considered ) is low - around 110, but i really enjoy the millage accumulation. the strange thing is that although i see improvements in FM split times, they are very small, and progressing very slow. i thought that quitting smoking, doing FM's, and working hard will show better improvements.
the biggest improvements are with the way my body feels - im still losing weight. that was important to me. i thought that if i stop smoking i will gain weight. also, i feel more refreshed after work out and im not "dead". after a FM i do have some pain ( gluteus i think ) and i try to solve it by using a thick towel on the sit.
but defiantly loosing weight is the best part of it. i am so grateful for having the courage to row. it started very hard, continued very hard ( motivation, lack of progress, getting lost with all the plans, proper technic which is still a thing to work on ) - but guys here on the forum have been a huge help and inspiration. i hope that i will lose enough weight to convince my wife to allow me to purchase a C2 machine.
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If you don't mind my asking, what was your total time on the FM?
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my first one was almost 4 full hours, and i could not walk for almost an hour later.jackarabit wrote:If you don't mind my asking, what was your total time on the FM?
my last one was a little less then 3 hours and 32 minutes. i can walk after that but the hours immediately after gets me very tiered.
i dont tend to stop and drink / eat. i found that if i stop along the way, its easy to convince myself to just quit, and its real hard for me to fight those thoughts off.
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That's a good point. Not sure how to factor that in at the beginning. I suppose I'll have to really listen to my body for signs that I'm overdoing it, and then get more rest as needed. I don't have any competitions or target dates that I'm training for, so skipping a lifting day or erg day here and there is not a problem.jackarabit wrote:But first thing be cautious and keep your back and yourself in the game. 3 days erg and 3 lifting will be a challenging schedule.