Yearly metres?

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Re: Yearly metres?

Post by jackarabit » April 29th, 2017, 4:05 pm

Glenn, that's the case for active recovery right there. :lol: Yeh, I know, must also take 30" inactive to recharge the alactic battery. But very good point. Pete Plan addicts, with their luxurious rest periods, are really takng a hit. Not good to sit on the erg doing nothing. :? Carl currently not doing interval work. Bloody genius! :mrgreen:
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Re: Yearly metres?

Post by jackarabit » April 29th, 2017, 4:40 pm

The expression 2k+35" keeps running thru my mind. Whassup widat? :wink:
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Re: Yearly metres?

Post by bisqeet » April 29th, 2017, 5:36 pm

jackarabit wrote:Average pace for annual total meters is total meters (at top of log page) divided by total time also at top of log page. First, of course, before dividing, you must convert minutes to fractional hours (ex: 15' becomes .25 hrs.) I don't worry with itty bits shorter than 6' or .1 hr. Go to the pace calculator and enter 60' as time and meters per hr. as distance. Viola! Av pace for meter total.
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Re: Yearly metres?

Post by G-dub » April 29th, 2017, 6:03 pm

bisqeet wrote:
jackarabit wrote:Average pace for annual total meters is total meters (at top of log page) divided by total time also at top of log page. First, of course, before dividing, you must convert minutes to fractional hours (ex: 15' becomes .25 hrs.) I don't worry with itty bits shorter than 6' or .1 hr. Go to the pace calculator and enter 60' as time and meters per hr. as distance. Viola! Av pace for meter total.
Well.. That's obviously to easy..my way at least cost me a few hours of programming in sql..
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Re: Yearly metres?

Post by jackarabit » April 29th, 2017, 6:12 pm

Relax Dean. i can't program the DVR. Once upon a time in the 80s I made an address book in Atari Basic, entered my own address, lost interest. :|
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Re: Yearly metres?

Post by Carl Watts » April 29th, 2017, 7:52 pm

G-dub wrote:Average pace per year means nothing to me unless that is the game you are playing.
It does matter its another measure of your performance if your tracking it.

Its no different to your individual rows, your distance is related to the pace you can maintain. The annual meters is just a sum of all your rows.If you don't care about it then you also don't care about your individual rows and improving your times or ranking anything. Its quite a useful summary of you annual performance, it actually appears on your LogCard summary if you look, problem is the logcard doesn't hold a years worth of rows for me so you have to do the math using the concept 2 pace calculator.

Yes you can tweak it if you don't upload your cool downs or warm ups but again its a distance/pace trade off. My cool downs are included and are rowed at a pace that is too slow but if your rowing online you need to pick a pace that most people can join and just make it fun by trying to hit exactly 2:15.0 splits. Rowing at 2:05 for a CD would be better, the average for the year would then drop sub 2:00 pace.

Rowing online changes things a little as you discover only roughly 50% of people can row a 30 minute faster that 2:00 pace so trying to get a CD to suit nearly everyone is hard.

Yes it would be great if Concept 2 recorded more information, this would actually be great for a more in depth comparison and building a data base that could be used to develop a fitness test on the erg that scored you based on age, sex, height and weight.
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Re: Yearly metres?

Post by lindsayh » April 29th, 2017, 11:01 pm

Carl Watts wrote:
G-dub wrote:Average pace per year means nothing to me unless that is the game you are playing.
It does matter its another measure of your performance if your tracking it.
Its no different to your individual rows, your distance is related to the pace you can maintain. The annual meters is just a sum of all your rows.If you don't care about it then you also don't care about your individual rows and improving your times or ranking anything
Carl that is a generalisation that for me seems totally wrong. I have no idea what my meters per year are or at what average pace I train (and don't care either) but I really care about improving my times and I have ranked every piece but a FM for years. All this thread proves for me is that we all share an interest in the erg but for all sorts of different reasons - there is no right and wrong. (not sure why this topic always generates so much heat - it doesn't really matter!)
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Re: Yearly metres?

Post by Carl Watts » April 30th, 2017, 12:31 am

You extract the data that suits you, I have no problem with that. Only a very small fraction of Concept 2 rowers even bother to use the C2 LogBook.

Anyone half serious knows how may meters they are rowing every year, this would be the case for OTW because anyone at a competitive level is given so many meters to row every week. If your really serious you would also be able to then break down those meters into your training bands like Greg does.

95% of us are just not interested in that level of detail and just don't care but more and more basic information is now available with ease as improvements are made to the Concept 2 Logbook. The recent changes have been great, hope it continues and RowPro gets the right data being sent to get the heartrate graph as well as the strokes information. I have been waiting YEARS to get the stroke counter function from someone, this again is just the most basic of data required if your going to start looking at your performance.
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Re: Yearly metres?

Post by maestroak » April 30th, 2017, 9:01 am

1.92 Million @ 1:58.75/500m spm likely 26-27.

This upcoming season I'll be over 2:00/500m. I recently backed off a bit and got past the mental hurdle of rowing at less than 2:00/500m.

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