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Post by hjs » April 25th, 2017, 3:52 am

allanhallberg wrote:Nice one Henry. Yep, the 777m gets ugly and you need more than 2 min to feel positive about the next 177m.
I have asked Shirley, but is anyone else not able to access Nonathon, It tells me it has expired and I need to contact the administrator.
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Post by allanhallberg » April 25th, 2017, 7:22 pm

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Post by sjors » April 26th, 2017, 3:45 am

hjs wrote:Ctc 3x177 777 3x177 drag 125 free rate. Rest 1 min, and 2 after the 777.

1 124.4/36
2 124.7/36
3 124.1/36
4 133.8/31 bleh, very nasty this. From first to last meter.
5 125.3/38
6 124.4/38
7 123.0/41

1839 128.3/36 not super, but has to do.

Start was pulling on the 3 and 1, so bit of a running start.
Well performed. Congrats Henry. More focus and power on the short ones. Is that the reason the long one was nasty?
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sjors wrote:
hjs wrote:Ctc 3x177 777 3x177 drag 125 free rate. Rest 1 min, and 2 after the 777.

1 124.4/36
2 124.7/36
3 124.1/36
4 133.8/31 bleh, very nasty this. From first to last meter.
5 125.3/38
6 124.4/38
7 123.0/41

1839 128.3/36 not super, but has to do.

Start was pulling on the 3 and 1, so bit of a running start.
Well performed. Congrats Henry. More focus and power on the short ones. Is that the reason the long one was nasty?
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Cheers Siebe, few reasons, so be fast on this you have hammer the short ones from rep 1, if not you can never make up later on. But I haven,t rowed very much lately, so rowing fitness is also a bit rusty. I think you can easily get below my score. Row the first three pretty fast, the 777 will be slower, but that doesn,t matter. From there its only three short reps.
Keep the rest simple, only 2 min after the 777, others 1. Think you can get around 1.27 ish

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hjs wrote:
Cheers Siebe, few reasons, so be fast on this you have hammer the short ones from rep 1, if not you can never make up later on. But I haven,t rowed very much lately, so rowing fitness is also a bit rusty. I think you can easily get below my score. Row the first three pretty fast, the 777 will be slower, but that doesn,t matter. From there its only three short reps.
Keep the rest simple, only 2 min after the 777, others 1. Think you can get around 1.27 ish
Maybe I will try one this month. Main goal for the end of this season is a sharper 2k (near 6:22). But maybe I can do that as well in beginning of new season.
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hjs wrote:
Cheers Siebe, few reasons, so be fast on this you have hammer the short ones from rep 1, if not you can never make up later on. But I haven,t rowed very much lately, so rowing fitness is also a bit rusty. I think you can easily get below my score. Row the first three pretty fast, the 777 will be slower, but that doesn,t matter. From there its only three short reps.
Keep the rest simple, only 2 min after the 777, others 1. Think you can get around 1.27 ish
Maybe I will try one this month. Main goal for the end of this season is a sharper 2k (near 6:22). But maybe I can do that as well in beginning of new season.
Better follow your own path, its not that its super important. To me, to be honoust, those Challenges can be distracting. Certainly when there are so many.
6.22 home alone would be good, would be sub 6.20 in a race.

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Post by sjors » April 26th, 2017, 7:59 am

hjs wrote: 6.22 home alone would be good, would be sub 6.20 in a race.
interesting. I hope so. Is the adrenaline the reason?
My first experience with a race was quite the opposite. I started way to fast (hey, this is easier the at home, I thought) and the boats on the monitor surrounding me, made it even worse. Well, you were there also, that was tough learning :oops:
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Post by hjs » April 26th, 2017, 8:43 am

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hjs wrote: 6.22 home alone would be good, would be sub 6.20 in a race.
interesting. I hope so. Is the adrenaline the reason?
My first experience with a race was quite the opposite. I started way to fast (hey, this is easier the at home, I thought) and the boats on the monitor surrounding me, made it even worse. Well, you were there also, that was tough learning :oops:
You didn,t listen and got carried away.. If you feel good and are rested it feels easy, but erging is always the same. Nothing for free. Always ignore everything, except your own plan, after half way start looking round. You could have beaten me there I think. Starting to fast always makes you pay.
I myself have never, really never, did not better my home performance at racing, always 3/4 seconds better. But I race my own race and really empty push. At home sometimes also, but still a bit less.

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Post by sjors » April 26th, 2017, 10:00 am

hjs wrote:If you feel good and are rested it feels easy, but erging is always the same. Nothing for free. Always ignore everything, except your own plan, after half way start looking round.
Well, still 20 month's to go to finally test the 2k at a race.
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Post by hjs » April 26th, 2017, 10:24 am

sjors wrote:
hjs wrote:If you feel good and are rested it feels easy, but erging is always the same. Nothing for free. Always ignore everything, except your own plan, after half way start looking round.
Well, still 20 month's to go to finally test the 2k at a race.
You will race before, its about the jerney not just the endresult. Some intermediate goals will help.

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Post by lindsayh » April 26th, 2017, 6:07 pm

hjs wrote:You will race before, its about the jerney not just the endresult. Some intermediate goals will help.
I agree Siebe - you should definitely race and test a few times before the "big one". Race day is different and there is an adrenaline effect that you need to harness to help and to avoid the rush at the beginning - pacing is everything. You need to remove as many variables as you can so that you can race your own race.
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Post by sjors » April 27th, 2017, 4:09 am

lindsayh wrote:
hjs wrote:You will race before, its about the jerney not just the endresult. Some intermediate goals will help.
I agree Siebe - you should definitely race and test a few times before the "big one". Race day is different and there is an adrenaline effect that you need to harness to help and to avoid the rush at the beginning - pacing is everything. You need to remove as many variables as you can so that you can race your own race.
Okay, okay, okay, I got it ;-). I will do some more races and don't fly blind...or as we say in Dutch even more appropriate: niet blind varen (blind boating).
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Post by hjs » April 27th, 2017, 4:19 am

sjors wrote:
lindsayh wrote:
hjs wrote:You will race before, its about the jerney not just the endresult. Some intermediate goals will help.
I agree Siebe - you should definitely race and test a few times before the "big one". Race day is different and there is an adrenaline effect that you need to harness to help and to avoid the rush at the beginning - pacing is everything. You need to remove as many variables as you can so that you can race your own race.
Okay, okay, okay, I got it ;-). I will do some more races and don't fly blind...or as we say in Dutch even more appropriate: niet blind varen (blind boating).
Its not that you absolute have to, if your training shows you can pull something you can. You always know pretty well what you are worth, but more for fun and focus. And there not that many races.

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Post by Bloodbuzz Corio » April 27th, 2017, 8:38 am

Just got around to this month's CTC with a whole 3 days to spare!

First 3 177s: 1:39.7/1:39.7/1:39.4
777: 1:43.7
Last 3 177s: 1:38.8/1:37.7/135.1

Total time of 6:10.2.

Somehow despite being rolling I completely missed the start on the final 177 - average was showing 4:xx after the first proper stroke! Given the faster final 3 feels like this probably wasn't 100%, may have another crack on Saturday, but to be honest even if I don't I'm not too dissatisfied with this.
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Post by Slacker » April 27th, 2017, 3:56 pm

Nice one, Rohan!

I am thinking about giving it another try tomorrow. My thought is to slow down the first set of 177s a bit from my previous attempt to see if I can speed up the 777m.
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