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[old] Godfried · Post by **[old] Godfried** » November 2nd, 2004, 5:52 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (seat5 @ Nov 2 2004, 07:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Now my Taff-o-graph should look a little more respectable. </td></tr></table> Great work, Carla, but : your 1k is slower than your 5k, 6k, 30mins and 10k average. Your 5k also needs some cleaning. Just do a 5k with 1k split - do it at 6k average - and you can put 3 more great times in it. And you can be breathing in the neck of our AussieTaff.

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » November 2nd, 2004, 6:25 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (seat5 @ Nov 2 2004, 12:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> WOW MARTIN! How can you hold a sub 2:00 pace for an HM! How many more Nonathlon points did that get you? It must have moved you up the N. rankings considerably. Carla  </td></tr></table> WOW to you too Carla, if I'm not mistaken your 6K PB puts you 3rd in your age group as well. Thanks for the congrats Carla, Daren and Niall. Nonathlon points went up by 20 (2 min improvement on old HM PB) but I've 'hit the wall' in the Rankings - next place above me a whopping 100 points away. Crikey Tks for updating Taff-o-Graffs so quickly Godfried - looks like I've got to do that HM all over again though as pace graph line still looks out of kilter. All is revealed by the 'language of Maths' - nowhere to hide ! Unless of course you make the 'Y Axis' scale really tiny .... And as for Carla 'breathing down my neck' - from the Nonathlon graph line it looks like she's standing on it !! Oh well, at least Debra's line is under control (for now). Time for a BIG sleep - no 2am training programs for me Martin

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » November 2nd, 2004, 9:26 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Byron Drachman @ Nov 1 2004, 05:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Besides having a grandfather on maternal side with a Welsh surname (Edwards—that’s Welsh, not English according to my references), I just checked my genealogy program. Dafydd ap Owanin Gwynedd, Prince of Gwynedd, was my third cousin, 29 times removed. He married Emma Plantagenet who was his half 7th cousin once removed. I am half 22nd great-grandnephew of Emma Plantagenet. In addition, Bryn Terfel is one of my favorite singers. When I do music while erging, I’ll listen to Bryn. Close enough? Byron  </td></tr></table> Byron, Welcome aboard. Interesting story with the genealogy program. I did the same thing going on two years ago now, and found that I was successor to the Earl of Brockhurst. I did all the legal stuff I needed to do with the Brit government, and bingo bango. I inherited a title that had been 'sleeping' for some 700 years. Not that it's going to bring me any fame or fortune, but it helps to keep a certain chap by the name of 'Sir Pirate' (a MAD team member who's a thorn in TA's side (Just kidding Phil)) bowing like he should be. Again, welcome aboard. Speedy

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » November 2nd, 2004, 10:25 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (dadams @ Nov 2 2004, 01:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> I inherited a title that had been 'sleeping' for some 700 years. Not that it's going to bring me any fame or fortune, but it helps to keep a certain chap by the name of 'Sir Pirate' (a MAD team member who's a thorn in TA's side (Just kidding Phil)) bowing like he should be. Again, welcome aboard. Speedy  </td></tr></table> Mr Speedy Mc Speedo, you are only a Duke, I am a Sir, it is you that should be bowing to me Done your Marathon yet!!? if not, why not? Sir "Higher than a Duke" Pirate

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » November 2nd, 2004, 10:34 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 2 2004, 09:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Done your Marathon yet!!? if not, why not? Sir "Higher than a Duke" Pirate  </td></tr></table> Looking forward to doing it this weekend, since you've asked. Baring anything going aloof, I'm hoping to hit right around the 2:30 range. Beg your pardon my lord. Speedy - High Grand Earl of Speedom

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » November 2nd, 2004, 10:47 am

Best of luck with that. Thats 1:45 split (2hrs 30min) if I am correct. Are you aiming to beat Xeno's time that he did on slides (NO!!! Mr Rupp, bite your lip ) Look forward to seeing the result, no pressure Sir Pirate (Lord)

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » November 2nd, 2004, 11:33 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 2 2004, 09:47 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Best of luck with that. Thats 1:45 split (2hrs 30min) if I am correct. Are you aiming to beat Xeno's time that he did on slides (NO!!! Mr Rupp, bite your lip ) Look forward to seeing the result, no pressure Sir Pirate (Lord)  </td></tr></table> I don't know about beating Xeno's slide time. Haven't even looked to see what it is. If it's something insanely fast like his 6k, then forget it. We'll have to wait and see. Speedy

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » November 2nd, 2004, 11:35 am

I think it was 2Hrs 30mins 8secs Sir Pirate (Lord) (of_the_rings)

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » November 2nd, 2004, 11:47 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Sir Pirate @ Nov 2 2004, 10:35 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> I think it was 2Hrs 30mins 8secs Sir Pirate (Lord) (of_the_rings)  </td></tr></table> Done on the slides? Really? I'm thinking I can beat that kids. Lord of the Rings?? Maybe Gollum, looking for the Precious (the preciously perfect 2k!!). Speedy - Grand High Earlness of the Speed, Lord of quick.

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » November 2nd, 2004, 12:05 pm

Hi Godfried, <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>your 1k is slower than your 5k, 6k, 30mins and 10k average. Just do a 5k with 1k split - do it at 6k average - and you can put 3 more great times in it.  </td></tr></table> Part of the trouble is that I can't do a fast start from a stopped flywheel. Even after a nice slow 2K warmup (say 10--11 min), when I sit down to do my next piece it takes me about a minute or so to get the pace where it needs to be. On the shorter pieces, that really blows the total time. To get the pace down in a few strokes puts way too much pressure on my lower back. Don't know if it will ever be ok, but I'm not going to force that and end up not walking, standing, or sitting for a few months....and then dragging one leg for a few more....wondering if I should apply for a handicapped parking space sign...no thanks.... been there, done that, and it's NO FUN! The splits for the first 1K of the 6K were 2:04.3 and 2:03.7 which would be 2 seconds faster than the official 1K time I've got down there and the 500 of course ends up slower than my official 500. A 2K would have been 2:04.3 +2:03.7 + 2:03.1 +2:03.2=8:14.3--certainly nothing to write home about with my old PB being 7:48.something. Think I'll just leave the gap on the graph for the time being. Carla

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » November 2nd, 2004, 12:07 pm

GO FOR IT SIR DWAYNE!!!!!! Can't wait to see your post about the marathon. If you think you can beat Xeno I'm sure you can! Go Super Taff! Carla

[old] rickster · Post by **[old] rickster** » November 2nd, 2004, 12:45 pm

Go For It Sir Speedy!!!! Welcome Byron!!! RICKSTER

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » November 2nd, 2004, 1:26 pm

I read with interest recently a posting on the Training Forum on the Oarsome Foursome Training DVD. In particular, the reviewer gave a blow-by-blow account of the rowing technique demonstrated. Armed with this new found knowledge, I did my 10K session this afternoon and concentrated on keeping the chain straight (and not undulating like a force 4 swell like I normally do ). Well, what a difference it made! New SB too which was a nice bonus, although as you'll see from the splits below, I did have a period in the middle where I felt I couldn't sustain the rate and went back to old habits. However, after the 1500m lapse, I realised a SB was on the cards and focused on maintaining this new technique and worry about the pain afterwards. I also have to say to Carla that I'm now a big convert to the Average Pace display on the monitor. Without this display I don't think I'd have had the confidence to go for the SB after lapsing. Anyway, time for the big red font that indicates a PB or SB (in my case a SB!). New SB for 10K is now 39:27.4. Even though a sub-39mins time would seem to be a long way off, I certainly think I have the confidence to go for it after I've got over my cold and post-BIRC. And for those that are interested, here are the splits: 1:58.5 (29spm) 1:57.3 (29) 1:56.6 (29) 1:56.4 (28) 1:57.0 (29) 1:57.7 (28) 2:00.6 (27) 2:02.4 (27) 2:01.0 (27) 1:59.5 (28) 1:58.5 (28) 1:58.7 (28) 1:59.1 (28) 1:59.7 (28) 1:59.4 (28) 1:59.4 (28) 1:58.8 (28) 1:57.8 (28) 1:57.9 (28) 1:51.1 (30)

[old] Bore Da! · Post by **[old] Bore Da!** » November 2nd, 2004, 2:22 pm

Anyone setting a PB deserves praise, its the way of things so well done Carla and Naill. BUT in particular reference to Martins HM PB and Speedys up and coming 2:40 (2:30??) marathon attempt I only have two words to say, and only the second one is printable, so here it is: Hell

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » November 2nd, 2004, 2:59 pm

Congrats Niall on the new pb.

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