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[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 24th, 2004, 9:05 pm

Mawning all, Chris/Chippy - superb rows both of you. Chris to do a 6:50 and Chippy, what a lionhearted effort ! You both truly are the "Lions of Risca". A 6:59.9 - those last few strokes must have been a sight to behold as the race between the clock and metres-to-go was SO close. Fitting that one of the Taff Founding Favvers should break the 7 min ahead of the "Taff hordes" queueing up - will inspire the rest no doubt. And our HT's (honorary Taffs) - Mrs Mac and that Pirate bloke ? Hi Debra, Thanks for the post. I thought your family must have been quite young (unless you had quads ), makes your season total of 800K+ even more impressive. "Stickybeak" - Nosy Parker, Overly-Curious-about -other-people's-business ! Where do your Melbourne friends live ? (more stickybeaking ) I'm on 4 acres in Wattle Glen, about 30 Kms NE of the city centre, near Eltham/Greensborough (not many Melbournites know of WG - tiny rural suburb with only 1 general store for shops). Great looking T-shirt Daren, Godfried should be happy as it matches his avatar. Put me down for 6 or so - let you know sizes when ordering becomes a reality. I'll kit out the family. Thats a superb HM PB Niall - very controlled for such a long row and puts you up there with Chris timewise. And done so soon after your 5K pb too. Bernie must be spitting chips seeing you sail on by Hi Graham and Sue - enjoying erging in NY with "100K Mike" ?! And a big WELCOME to Ray - more wheel power for the "TaffMobile" Off to the gym now Carla for a 60 miniter (to tidy up my graph "Pace" line) Martin

[old] Debra · Post by **[old] Debra** » October 24th, 2004, 9:23 pm

Martin, I honestly don't know where in Melbourne my friends live but will ask if they know where 'Wattle Glen' is. We met them when we were in the middle east a few years ago and have not seen them since but have kept in touch. We were thrilled to hear they are coming to Canada for a while. I hope they don't find it too cold. Martin it sounds like you have a healthy sized family as well - 6 t-shirts to kit the family! Niall, Awesome HM man!! Way to go! You just keep getting faster and faster! Amazing work. Chippy & Chris, WOW great job at your races! Chippy way to squeek in under that 7 minutes! Woo hoo!! WHAT A TEAM!!!

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » October 24th, 2004, 9:56 pm

That's SOOO Exciting! Sub 7 for Chippy! Yay! And a great time on your race, too, Chris! Anyone know how Carole & Sir P. did? Mike you are a wonder for sure. Don't think I'll ever catch up to you again! T-Shirts: I like the dragon design, let's do it! I want a mess of them! I usually buy T shirts long so when I wear them biking they are, well, long enough. But I could use a bunch of shorter ones to row in, because the long ones get caught in the seat rollers...and what better than Taff Attack shirts! I can't imagine wimping out in a Taff Attack shirt! Hey all, you really want to be amazed, Debra not only has 4 ittle bitty kids and has rowed 800m, but is pursuing an advanced degree in her spare time! Doesn't that make you feel really lazy? It does me! Welcome, Ray, glad to have more oarsman in the galley! Carla

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » October 25th, 2004, 12:18 am

New 30 min PB--7256 avg 2:04 24 spm #3 in ranking 23 more Nonathlon points-- Carla I see an Imposter has passed Carole and me both on the 10k...tsk tsk...that needs attention! Carla

[old] CAROLE MAC · Post by **[old] CAROLE MAC** » October 25th, 2004, 12:42 am

Hi folks .... had a bit of a disaster at SOUTHAMPTON ..had a sore throat all week but still performed ..no PB'S ..but got Silver in the 2k ... even though foot came out of the strap twice.. 7.46..... however still unbeaten in the 500metres in my category 1.45 not my best but hey ho .... was so hot at the venue ... Was a pleasure to meet the old Taffs ..gggg ..think may have persuaded them to go to the Europeans .. !! Taffs on tour in Amsterdam!!! woke up this am with no voice at all ... gobby mac was shouting all day again!!!!

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 25th, 2004, 1:33 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Godfried @ Oct 24 2004, 09:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Oct 8 2004, 06:36 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>If the monitor showed Ave Pace and not Elapsed Time during your record-breaking 10K row, what are the odds (roughly will do) of the Total Time for the row being exactly 41:40.0 (as opposed to 41:40.1, 41:39.9 etc) when the Ave Pace at the end of the row said 2.05.0 ???!!!! For Bonus marks derive an algebraic formula for calculating odds that works for any Distance/Ave Pace !!!!  </td></tr></table> Nag Nag OK : 1 in 10. <a href='http://concept2.van-diepen.nl/10000-carla.pdf' target='_blank'>see this</a> in red pace with one more digits , in black pace on the monitor , in black total time with one more digits , in black total time on the monitor , in red 1 out of 10 is 41:40.0 OK : 1 in 20. <a href='http://concept2.van-diepen.nl/10000_carla.pdf' target='_blank'>see this</a> in red pace with two more digits , in black pace on the monitor , in black total time with two more digits , in black total time on the monitor , in red 5 out of 100 are 41:40.0 Funny to see that with the same average on the monitor you can be 1 second slower or faster.  </td></tr></table> Just for a change of Pace from all these PB Posts, here is a post from the esteemed examiners marking (out of 10) your answer to the maths question Godfried :- For attempting the question in the first place - 2 Marks For getting the right answer (20 : 1) - 5 marks For showing your workings - 3 Marks Making a grand total of 10 . Unfortunately they spotted your devious attempt to improve the odds of getting the right answer by submitting TWO answers (10 : 1 and 20 : 1) and have applied a 2 mark penalty These marks may be regained by deriving the appropriate algebraic formula for any distance D and Ave Pace P, expressed as "odds of X : 1" On a more serious note - can you put my latest 60 min row in your graphs? Details - 15975m in 60 mins, Ave Pace 152.7 (SPM 27, DF 117) I've aleady updated Nonathlon. Thanks Godfried - guess my Pace graph will look a bit wonky at the HM end now Martin

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 25th, 2004, 1:43 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Debra @ Oct 24 2004, 08:23 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Martin, I honestly don't know where in Melbourne my friends live but will ask if they know where 'Wattle Glen' is. We met them when we were in the middle east a few years ago and have not seen them since but have kept in touch. We were thrilled to hear they are coming to Canada for a while. I hope they don't find it too cold. Martin it sounds like you have a healthy sized family as well - 6 t-shirts to kit the family!  </td></tr></table> Yes, please do Debra - who knows, they may live just round the corner. Are they Ergomaniacs like us ? Melbourne can get pretty chilly in late winter but no snow though. As for the family - 2 daughters (25 and 21) and 1 son (18). Plus 1 soon-to-be son in law (Jan 2005) who will wear his TA shirt with pride (to keep in my good books ) even though he is Irish (Dolan) through and through ! All the best with the recovery and studies, Martin

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 25th, 2004, 1:55 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (seat5 @ Oct 24 2004, 11:18 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> New 30 min PB--7256 avg 2:04 24 spm #3 in ranking 23 more Nonathlon points-- Carla I see an Imposter has passed Carole and me both on the 10k...tsk tsk...that needs attention! Carla  </td></tr></table> Hey Carla, great PB ! Especially considering you felt so flat mentally the other day. Hurry up and do an "any old time" 2K so you can get up to me in Nonathlon - I need someone alongside to make it more fun (don't know anyone around me at the moment). Just do one at 2:05's Who's that 'new kid on the 10K block' ? Maybe she's Welsh too ?! Bad luck on the timing of your illness Carole - still a GREAT effort and result though - was that 1 gold and 1 silver ? How did Chippy pull up afterwards - hobbling around drinking pints in celebration ?? Martin

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » October 25th, 2004, 2:03 am

Martin, <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Details - 15975m in 60 mins, Ave Pace 152.7 (SPM 27, DF 117)  </td></tr></table> That's an amazing result Avg pace of 1:52 at 27spm I can't even begin to imagin how I'd be able to put in a performance like that. That's a powerful stroke you've got there buddy! Carole Mac, Gutsy performance under difficult conditions. Carla, <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Hey all, you really want to be amazed, Debra not only has 4 ittle bitty kids and has rowed 800m, but is pursuing an advanced degree in her spare time! Doesn't that make you feel really lazy? </td></tr></table> It never ceases to amaze me the resilience and focus people have. For Debra to juggle family commitments with personal development AND rowing shows great dedication and a very positive mindset. Well done Debra! All, It's the start of another week and as we have been reminded, it's the Hallowe'en Challenge week so let's get pulling those meters in for the team and the bonus Hallowe'en certificate and t-shirt transfer design (wont look as nice as our Taff Attack logo ).

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 25th, 2004, 2:40 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Niall @ Oct 25 2004, 01:03 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Martin, <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Details - 15975m in 60 mins, Ave Pace 152.7 (SPM 27, DF 117)  </td></tr></table> That's an amazing result Avg pace of 1:52 at 27spm I can't even begin to imagin how I'd be able to put in a performance like that.  </td></tr></table> Mucho thanks Niall, I actually thought of your HM achievement and Chippy's gutwrenching 2K when the going got tough in the middle stages to help stay on track. So I owe you both one For the longer rows I'm experimenting with going out and holding an Ave Pace equivalent to a PB pace for the distance one before the one I'm doing (if that makes any sense - can just hear Chris saying Ahh, Wha !). Hence my interest in whether one can record a "PB within a PB" - not that I've achieved that yet !!! So for this 60 miniter I set off at 10K PB pace (1:52.4) and tried to hold it for as long as possible. OK until 25 mins then slowly but surely slid out to 1:53.8 at 45 min mark (doing some 1:54/1:55's). Crept out to 1:53 by 55 min mark but a big push at end brought it back. Tactic seems to work whilst I'm still improving but probably not a good idea once I hit max PB levels. Current rate of improvement can be attributed to - 1) Benefitting from K's rowed to date 2) Improving health - recovering nicely from a debilitating malaise affecting me these past few years, on the mend thanks to an astute Naturopath who spotted the underlying cause. 3) Greatly motivated by being part of a GREAT TEAM Martin

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 25th, 2004, 3:30 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (chippy @ Oct 24 2004, 09:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Cant move for 5 mins. 6.59.9  </td></tr></table> Brilliant! \o/

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 25th, 2004, 3:51 am

Well done Martin and Carla on your 60 and 30 minutes. Rocking stuff. Carole, it's a shame you weren't fully fit, but very well done! See you on Sunday. =)

[old] Bore Da! · Post by **[old] Bore Da!** » October 25th, 2004, 4:10 am

Chippy, Great Row Man - 6:59.9. It was amazing because I saw how much effort he put into it. The cry of pain with 750m to go was quite ominous, but Chippy has strength of character, and a great competitive sprit. I later asked which technique he used, the 'Wimp' or the 'Groan'? - He replied "Both!". I had a tough time, but did bring it home in 6:51.1. Which wasn't bad as my build up wasn't great. I got 4 weeks of sprint trainning to cover now for my sub 6:45 attempt at the british on Nov 21. Was also trying to watch Grahams row but eyes were going blurry - only 56 seconds to catch him up tho! Great to see Carol again, and meet Sir P! Bring on the BIRC ehh? Martin, few questions based on your previous posts: 1. Is the 'garden' big enough to go dirt biking in? 2. Son in law, north or south ireland? The wife is from Co Derry. 3. Awesome job on the 60 min, truley awesome mate. BUT I have to ask, are you gutted to have missed 16000? Sorry I gotta know? Niall, Nice PB, Nice Pressure.

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » October 25th, 2004, 4:19 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (seat5 @ Oct 25 2004, 01:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Anyone know how Carole & Sir P. did?  </td></tr></table> I disgraced my-self yesterday at the G.P event. got to 900m and stopped. Something did not feel right!!! Will be doing a 2K test tonight to make up for it. Sir Pirate

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 25th, 2004, 5:15 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Bore Da! @ Oct 25 2004, 03:10 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> I had a tough time, but did bring it home in 6:51.1. Which wasn't bad as my build up wasn't great. I got 4 weeks of sprint trainning to cover now for my sub 6:45 attempt at the british on Nov 21. Was also trying to watch Grahams row but eyes were going blurry - only 56 seconds to catch him up tho! Martin, few questions based on your previous posts: 1. Is the 'garden' big enough to go dirt biking in? 2. Son in law, north or south ireland? The wife is from Co Derry. 3. Awesome job on the 60 min, truley awesome mate. BUT I have to ask, are you gutted to have missed 16000? Sorry I gotta know?  </td></tr></table> Hey Chris - top row considering you have been doing mainly long steady pieces to date. Pretty hard to change to short stuff PB-type times without a week or so lead up. So you should be pretty chuffed. 6:45 is definately on with the right focus. 1) Garden question - nice undulating landscape with some banks, few trees dotted around. Neatly mowed, parklike appearance - dirtbiking only on TREADLESS tyres Don't want to spoil the 'look' !!! 2) Son-in-law-to-be is actually an Aussie (I should have said "Irish descendency thru and thru"). Not sure where the Dolans originated (Co. Cork ?), I'm now curious and will do a security check. 3) Yes and No . Started out thinking 16K+ if I can stay around 1:52.5, faded from mind after 40 mins or so, just happy to PB well. But switched monitor from Ave Pace to Actual Distance at about 15K and got 'excited' watching the metres climbing towards the 'magic' 16000. Wanted the time to get to 60:00 so I could stop, yet wanted the time to go slow so I could get to 16000 In the end just pulled like mad to get as many metres as possible as, unlike Daren and his 4 secs I DEFINATELY won't be passing this way again for a while !!!! Guess it's an incentive to have 16000 still there to conquer. Feel stuffed just reliving it, time to hit the sack !!! Once again Well Done to you both, Martin

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