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[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » October 23rd, 2004, 10:46 am

<span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:blue'>29 seconds!</span>!!!!</span><br><br>Awesome improvement, Daren!!<br><br>RowPro sounds like so much fun. One of these days I'll have to upgrade to PM3 so I can use that. It must help to keep going on those 'why am I doing this, anyway?' days.<br><br><br>From your nifty pace/point charts I see my 30 min is overdue for an upgrade! Pace for 10K is 2:05 and it's faster than the 30 min piece. I might not have really noticed that without the chart, thanks for the tool. I'll tackle that tomorrow, I think.<br><br>Carla<br><br>

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 23rd, 2004, 10:50 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (Godfried @ Oct 23 2004, 03:38 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (Daren C @ Oct 23 2004, 03:11 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><span style='color:red'><span style='font-size:21pt;line-height:100%'>38:34.5 (1:55.7)</span></span> </td></tr></table><br><span style='font-size:13pt;line-height:100%'><span style='color:blue'><b>Good work! Let me see the splits! </b></span></span><br><br>And update your Nonathlon , how can a guy do his work like this.  </td></tr></table><br> Nonathlon updated! Another 11 points for me. =)<br><br>Splits were...<br><br></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><b>CODE</b> </td></tr><tr><td id='CODE'><br><br>Dist Split SR<br>-------------------<br>500 1:58.70 28 <br>1000 1:56.30 30 <br>1500 1:55.80 32 <br>2000 1:55.70 31 <br>2500 1:55.30 32 <br>3000 1:55.00 32 <br>3500 1:55.40 32 <br>4000 1:56.20 32 <br>4500 1:55.80 32 <br>5000 1:56.20 32 <br>5500 1:56.70 32 <br>6000 1:56.50 32 <br>6500 1:56.90 31 <br>7000 1:56.50 32 <br>7500 1:56.50 32 <br>8000 1:56.40 31 <br>8500 1:54.90 31 <br>9000 1:54.80 31 <br>9500 1:54.80 32 <br>10000 1:50.20 33 <br> </td></tr></table><br><br>Pretty even, really. Ramped it up a bit with 2k left, and let rip in the final 200m (1:42 or so I think). That will have only gained me a second or two, but it feels good to sprint home rather than limp. =)

[old] Godfried · Post by **[old] Godfried** » October 23rd, 2004, 10:54 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (AussieTaff @ Oct 23 2004, 09:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>My latest 10K has stuffed up my nice pace curve somewhat ! </td></tr></table><br>No pain , no gain - you just have to do the other distances as well. <br><br></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (AussieTaff @ Oct 23 2004, 09:21 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Looks like Speedy and Carla meet nicely at the Marathon point in the Nonathlon according to the trend lines ! </td></tr></table><br>I am afraid they aren't going to do that distance, so it is good Speedy just got married! Now he can meet his own woman. <br><br>And what am I doing with Daren and Chris - under - over - under -over - I thought it is erging, not wrestling.

[old] Godfried · Post by **[old] Godfried** » October 23rd, 2004, 11:03 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (seat5 @ Oct 23 2004, 04:46 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>From your nifty pace/point charts I see my 30 min is overdue for an upgrade! Pace for 10K is 2:05 and it's faster than the 30 min piece. </td></tr></table><br>I am glad I gave you something to do and after that the 6000 and after that an easy 2000 .<br><br>Or just do what others do : use the 10000 pace to calculate your 6000 and 30mins , personally I don't like this method.

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 23rd, 2004, 11:10 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (Godfried @ Oct 23 2004, 04:03 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Or just do what others do : use the 10000 pace to calculate your 6000 and 30mins , personally I don't like this method.  </td></tr></table><br>Aye, I reckon it's a bit of a cheat. =)<br><br>I'm happy to say that all my Nonathlon times are legitimate, self-contained pieces. Huzzah! Besides, one would normally find that a real attempt at a shorter distance will yield a faster time than just happening to pass it during a longer row. That's assuming most people pace themselves like me - conservatively and getting faster, rather than all-out and hang on in there. <br><br>Of course, I could always extrapolate my 30 minute distance by doubling it, to give me a 60 minute distance of 15820.

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » October 23rd, 2004, 11:16 am

Daren,<br><br>I know it's all been said before but right now you're on <b><span style='color:red'>FIRE</span></b> <br><br>The improvements in your times are absolutely awesome and a real inspiration to us. I really don't know how you sustain such a high SPM for a whole 10K. I'm pleased if I can maintain 28spm for that distance; 30-31 is just out of the question. Don't you feel hurried at such a rate? I can see I've got oodles to learn on technique to propel myself off the bottom of Godfried's charts <br><br>Once again, keep up the great work and you'll see those times tumble still further.

[old] Godfried · Post by **[old] Godfried** » October 23rd, 2004, 11:24 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (Daren C @ Oct 23 2004, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Aye, I reckon it's a bit of a cheat. . . . Besides, one would normally find that a real attempt at a shorter distance will yield a faster time than just happening to pass it during a longer row. </td></tr></table><br>I don't think it is cheating or illegal - I just like to see each piece as something unique.<br><br>Let's not walk the path of "the slides".<br><br></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (Daren C @ Oct 23 2004, 05:10 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Of course, I could always extrapolate my 30 minute distance by doubling it, to give me a 60 minute distance of 15820. </td></tr></table><br>It would save you a lot of time.<br><br>As the editor of my school-magazine used to say: <br>"<span style='color:red'>The editor has the right to shorten , alter , or add to the contents of every letter-to-the-editor</span>"

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 23rd, 2004, 11:37 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (Niall @ Oct 23 2004, 04:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> I really don't know how you sustain such a high SPM for a whole 10K. I'm pleased if I can maintain 28spm for that distance; 30-31 is just out of the question. Don't you feel hurried at such a rate?  </td></tr></table><br> On the contrary, I find 28 SPM "too slow". It feels unnatural to me. I think my natural cadence is about 31/32 SPM. It might be because of my technique (I think I bounce off my heels), but it feels right. Puffing starts at more like 34-36 I find. <br><br>I've tried some of the very low rate stuff that I've seen recommended for stroke power training, 22 SPM, but I just can't do it. I always speed up.

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 23rd, 2004, 12:15 pm

So, are we gonna get a team T-shirt made up, or what? <br><br>The <a href='http://www.kop.nildram.co.uk/images/tfront.jpg' target='_blank'>last T-shirts</a> I got printed were done by a local firm, and worked out at about £10 each. Of course, it was simpler when all the people that wanted one were in the UK, but there's always the post. =)<br><br>Could use someone like cafepress instead.<br><br>I was thinking what I would race in at BIRC, you see. The obvious choice was a Taff Attack T-shirt or vest, but there isn't one. =) At the moment I'm thinking that I might wear my cycling jersey because it's nice and bright, and might put my competition off. <br><br><img src='http://www.kop.nildram.co.uk/images/sex ... ersion.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /><br><br>Muahahaha. <br><br>

[old] SteveV · Post by **[old] SteveV** » October 23rd, 2004, 12:29 pm

You didn't tell us you were an ex cyclist, no wonder your used to heavy training

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 23rd, 2004, 1:08 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (SteveV @ Oct 23 2004, 05:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> You didn't tell us you were an ex cyclist, no wonder your used to heavy training  </td></tr></table><br> I was never a serious cyclist, really. Between 17 and 24 or so I went out regularly, but not really more than once or twice a week, and only ever during the spring and summer. =)<br><br>For the last 10 years I've pretty much been a couch potato, which is why my weight went from 10st to 14st 10lb.

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » October 23rd, 2004, 1:16 pm

I think a Taff Attack T shirt would be really great! I would definitely buy some. Maybe 5 or so just to wear on the erg. Let's do it!<br><br>Carla<br><br>

[old] Godfried · Post by **[old] Godfried** » October 23rd, 2004, 1:25 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (Daren C @ Oct 23 2004, 07:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>For the last 10 years I've pretty much been a couch potato, which is why my weight went from 10st to 14st 10lb.  </td></tr></table><br>It took me 20 years to reach 23.5 stone ; now after 8 months at 20.5 ; going to 15.75

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » October 23rd, 2004, 3:26 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>So, are we gonna get a team T-shirt made up, or what?  </td></tr></table><br><br>I think a team t-shirt is a great idea. Count me in!

[old] Godfried · Post by **[old] Godfried** » October 23rd, 2004, 3:40 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'><span class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></span> (Daren C @ Oct 23 2004, 06:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>So, are we gonna get a team T-shirt made up, or what?  </td></tr></table><br>If I like the print , count me in ; I am afraid I need a XXXL ( or more ) but still working on that! <br><br>P.S.<br>I am able to surrender to a majority voting!

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