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[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » October 20th, 2004, 1:22 pm

Well true to my word I did my 2K time trial. The observant amongst you will notice the absence of large red text on this posting so no PB! I actually felt a little nervous prior to the row as it's really an unknown for me at the moment with all these longish rows I've been doing. The plan was to try and beat my PB (everyone else has been lately so I thought I'd try and join the party ). So was looking at going out at 1:48 then settle into 1:50 for the middle 1000m and then try for 1:48 for the last 500m. Anyway the tale of the tape is as follows: Time - 7:25.5 DF: 122 Splits: 1:47.8 30spm (159bpm) The low rate felt pretty good so stuck with the sub 1:48 rate 1:51.5 29spm (176bpm) Struggled to keep at 1:50. Lack of strength started to tell. 1:54.7 28spm (176bpm) Just kept thinking "heart of a lion" otherwise I'd have stopped 1:51.4 30spm (180bpm) Dug in for all I had. Heart rate for the last 500m showed I could have put more in but I simply didn't have the strength. Just goes to show I need to work on strength and also speed training. Negatives: 1) Didn't break my PB 2) Not as good as I thought I might have been 3) Didn't break my PB! Positives: 1) It's a baseline time to work from 2) Highlights areas for improvement and focus (ie speed and strength training) 3) It could have been a lot worse! I've updated Nonathlon so I've jumped up to 106th place. Still a long way to go yet. I'm still hopeful of doing the HM this Sunday (domestic commitments allowing!).

[old] Mikez · Post by **[old] Mikez** » October 20th, 2004, 4:13 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (seat5 @ Oct 20 2004, 09:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Mike--Why don't you stay up really late tonight watching that last Sox/Yankee game--and don't row while you're watching, you'll miss some important plays!  </td></tr></table> Afternoon Taff"s, I am always amazed at all the PB's among you, I will have to start soon. Can anyone send me the link to Nonathalon, As I think once on that I can increase my meters and then times. Also, can anyone tell me how to get those clickable smilies added to my notes. As you may know I am quite new to posting, thanks in advance. Sorry Carla, I have full intention of staying up rowing tonight for the New York Yankee (winners of 27 world series since 1918) / Boston Red Sox no world series wins since 1918). But alas after the unbelievable red sox come backs I may be rowing 1/2 Marathon to cope with the stress. (smilie face here if I knew how). Mike

[old] chippy · Post by **[old] chippy** » October 20th, 2004, 4:16 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Godfried @ Oct 19 2004, 04:00 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> </div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (chippy @ Oct 19 2004, 10:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Congrats on all the PBs over the last few days Chris, Martin, Daren.  </td></tr></table> Chippy, you need do do something about your 6k time : see <a href='http://concept2.van-diepen.nl/taff-paces.pdf' target='_blank'>click</a> Don't overdo it, BigD is way to fast.  </td></tr></table> [QUOTE] Godried Chris and i are going to race on sunday in the Southampton GP,after that i will be looking to climb the Nonathlon ladder,6K Pbs will be the first to fall to the chippies saw. Great row Martin Phoned Chris early today to ask about the pain involved in the 5k,he said he was a wreck,not from the row but the fact you had bounced back to to take the lead again Graham ,Sue. I must admit the big bag of chocolate you gve me for my lovely wife was a bit lighter by the time i got home,must of fallen out some where. Chubby Chippy

[old] Godfried · Post by **[old] Godfried** » October 20th, 2004, 4:38 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Mikez @ Oct 20 2004, 10:13 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Can anyone send me the link to Nonathalon, As I think once on that I can increase my meters and then times. Also, can anyone tell me how to get those clickable smilies added to my notes. </td></tr></table> <a href='http://www.matrix.uk.net/nonathlon/' target='_blank'>http://www.matrix.uk.net/nonathlon/</a> You should see the smilies at the lest side of your screen. Or use !:huh: !:o !;) !:P !:D !:lol: !B) !:rolleyes: !<_< !:) !

!:( !:unsure: !:blink: !:ph34r: without the !

[old] Godfried · Post by **[old] Godfried** » October 20th, 2004, 4:42 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (chippy @ Oct 20 2004, 10:16 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Chris and i are going to race on sunday in the Southampton GP . . . </td></tr></table> The GP is very important - I wish you both ( and others also ) a good row. No GP in November - expect a lot of good work then.

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 20th, 2004, 9:06 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Bore Da! @ Oct 20 2004, 12:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> and at least bleep-ing wait a full bleep-ing 24 bleep-ing hours, before smashing my bleep-ing record. No worries mate, top show, great row, cant speak highly enough of it - guess you'll be dedicating it to me tho right?  </td></tr></table> Absolutely Chris, Until that chap fell off his erg at the 3K mark all I had in mind was - "stay in front of Chris'. So I definately owe you one ! For the last K or so the only thought was 'get a sub 18 you wimp' so I'll dedicate that portion to the inspiration drawn from Taff team as a whole - Thanks guys. Sorry about the 24 hr bit, blame it on :- 1) Time zone differences 2) You, Carla and Daren giving me a 'friendly' razz (love it ). Went to the gym feeling like a Wallaby fan experiencing a shower of cans at Cardiff Alms Park for singing 'Walzing Matilda' during the Welsh National Anthem ! Laughing all the way 3) Sub 18 has been the dream since my first serious 5K - you happened to be both my motivation and in the way !!! Back to the 3K 'crossover' with you !!! Best of British (Welsh) to you and Chippy at the GP - in the frame of mind for 2K PB's ? Martin

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 20th, 2004, 9:19 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Godfried @ Oct 20 2004, 04:04 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> So here are the <a href='http://concept2.van-diepen.nl/taff-paces.pdf' target='_blank'>click for paces</a> and here are the <a href='http://concept2.van-diepen.nl/taff-nonathlon.pdf' target='_blank'>click for points</a>. Nice line for the paces - AussieTaff !  </td></tr></table> Great graphs Godfried, there's nothing like a nice set of curves is there Did you have to key in all that data from scratch or do an 'export' - you truly are the 'Stats' man. I too like my 'Pace' curve, though start (500m) and end (60 min, HM) need some refining. Wonder if the "line of best fit" is a 4th order polynomial like Nonathlon - can you do one for me ..... (only kidding .... unless you can ... ) Awesome to see Speedy does a 10K at a quicker pace than my 1K !!!! Are you intending to keep the data up to date on a regular basis ? Thanks again, Martin

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 20th, 2004, 9:47 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Niall @ Oct 20 2004, 12:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Well true to my word I did my 2K time trial. The observant amongst you will notice the absence of large red text on this posting so no PB! I'm still hopeful of doing the HM this Sunday (domestic commitments allowing!).  </td></tr></table> Great post Niall, For some time now I've felt that, with a few notable exceptions (7 min 2K, sub 18 5K e.g.) the actual time for a row is of lesser significance than the row itself (hope I don't get burnt at the stake !). By that I mean :- The Build Up - Planning, strategy, anticipation, optimism, what if's .... The Execution - Influenced by so many local factors (missing water, guys falling off ergs) as to make each one unique ... The aftermath - exhaustion, elation, satisfaction, disillusionment, recriminations, if only's .... Against this rich tapesty of events the actual time pales somewhat. So it was with your post - I found myself caught up in your eloquence and upon reading the 7.22 thought ... "oh well, thats ok" before diving back for a re-read and reliving the row itself!!! Thanks for adding another worthy chapter to "Taff Chronicles" But I guess Times ARE one of the fundamental units of erging so a couple of thoughts if you don't mind :- 1) With all your erging to date and powerful build I'm surprised you are 'running out of puff/strength' in the 2nd 500m at 1:50's. Maybe a technique thing or overly tense at start ? Solve this and you are almost there. 2) Maybe some 1K's at 1:48's to build confidence for the middle section. 2K is pretty much as Chris described in a previous post - 400m 'start', 1200m 'middle' and 400 'hang-in-there end'. Need to treat middle phase as a 'swing along at sustainable pace' piece. Great reading Niall, thanks for sharing, Good luck and enjoy the HM (now THAT will be a story !) Martin

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 20th, 2004, 10:04 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (seat5 @ Oct 20 2004, 09:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> MarTIN!!!!! Don't you ever taking an ever-lovin' day OFF any more for goodness sakes!!!! "Burr in the saddle" is being kind.... I VILL CATCH UP VITH YOU DON'T VORRY!!!! Congrats on the great 5K time--what was your previous best? Carla  </td></tr></table> Thanks Carla, I partly owe it to you ! Previous PB of 18:17 was a 'glory-or-death' attempt a few months ago to get under 1:50's so I'm stoked over the improvement to say the least ! Looks like keeping Mike at bay is a bit like the 'finger in the dyke', think I'll just have to let him sail on by to join Niall/Bernie where he belongs ! Mike, are you one of Daren's mob - writing extra long programs that take yonks to compile, thereby providing a perfect excuse to get on the erg for hours ? Tell us more about Mr "New York, New York" Taff (can't get that song out of my head - heard on Aussie Idol !) Recovery day today Carls, catch me if you can Martin

[old] CAROLE MAC · Post by **[old] CAROLE MAC** » October 20th, 2004, 10:06 pm

Chippy and co don't forget to say hello at Southampton .. I am travelling down by train on the Saturday hope for once that they are on time . Booked into a B N B for the night as well.

[old] Mikez · Post by **[old] Mikez** » October 20th, 2004, 10:19 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (AussieTaff @ Oct 20 2004, 09:04 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>[Looks like keeping Mike at bay is a bit like the 'finger in the dyke', think I'll just have to let him sail on by to join Niall/Bernie where he belongs ! Mike, are you one of Daren's mob - writing extra long programs that take yonks to compile, thereby providing a perfect excuse to get on the erg for hours ? Tell us more about Mr "New York, New York" Taff (can't get that song out of my head - heard on Aussie Idol !)  </td></tr></table> No Martin, No computer whiz for me, I am still trying to figure out how to move the smilies to where I want them , As for occupation I am a NYPD Captain, quite exciting but I rarely sing New York New York unless the Yankees win , But alas they are losing to Carla's RedSox 6-1 There has been a sudden increase in Meters as I am trying to lose some extra donut weight, and it seems to be working. I am going to have some taff's as visitors soon very exciting. Mike

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 20th, 2004, 10:41 pm

Hi Mike, thanks for the intro (any Welsh ?) - good to have you on the Taff "Beat" (how corny was that - couldn't resist !). Another rozzer to help Chippy/Chris to stay on the Straight and Narrow. They will need a'keeping an eye on as they approach the 1 million metres mark, with claims and counter claims of skullduggery, missing metres etc abounding no doubt Keep up the good work on the erg, looking forward to when you start to test yourself over the recognised distances. You've certainly got enough K's under your belt (and less of those donuts - give them to CI Wiggum in the office next door - love the Simpsons). Cheers Martin

[old] CAROLE MAC · Post by **[old] CAROLE MAC** » October 20th, 2004, 11:01 pm

Oi Martin you going to have to behave to.... Mike ... well Boss .. you got rank .. we can sort this load of renegades out ... <img src='http://users.telenet.be/eforum/emoticon ... fahr31.gif' border='0' alt='user posted image' />

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 20th, 2004, 11:17 pm

No way Jose, Carole - I'm too far away - out of juristiction - hohoho Good hunting at the GP Martin

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » October 21st, 2004, 12:21 am

Caught you Martin! Decided to do the HM today that I should have done 2 days ago. The schedule today just was nuts and I ended up missing dinner and coming home at 9:00 starved, and figured, if I eat, I won't be able to row till late, and that's just not acceptable, because at that rate I'll never catch up...So I ate a yogurt and did the HM. I was tired from the start, the last two days of 12K each felt like I had just done them. It turned out to be a PB but I was really tired by the end because I was really running on empty. Had to stop 3 times for water. Anyway I finished in 1:31:53.3, about 9 seconds faster than my 2 year old PB, worth 993 on Nonathlon. I don't know if I'll ever manage to get under 1:30 to join Carole...I really lousy & should eat something but it's 12:15 am. Carla

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