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[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 4th, 2004, 8:04 pm

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Niall @ Oct 4 2004, 02:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> Option B my friend! I'll probably do 10K-12K on the Thursday and 18K-20K on the Friday. That's the plan anyway! We'll see...  </td></tr></table> Hi Niall, So much for 'easing' back into it ! Are you planning to break up the 10K/20K into smaller rows with rests/stretching in between ? An 'exploratory' row on Wednesday of, say, 3-4K may be worthwhile to see how you pull up the next day (I've found it's usually the next day that any problems surface after a layoff, not the comeback activity itself) Be great to have you back in the 'eight', you must be itching to get into it again All the best for the comeback, Martin PS I'm putting in 'extra' Kms now to compensate for being out of action this weekend with the HM (running).

[old] Debra · Post by **[old] Debra** » October 4th, 2004, 9:59 pm

Hello everyone! Thanks for the warm welcome! I've been browsing your posts for a few weeks now. Last year I was a member for Trent University but this year it was just myself and one other. With all of Carla's enthusiasm about you guys I decided to invite myself to join! I hope nobody minds! I'm sure I have Welsh blood in me. Isn't Berry a common Welsh name? Once I get myself well again I hope to be adding 40 to 50kms a week to our quest. Personally I'm just 302,500m away from achieving 5 MILLION. I should be able to get there by Christmas I would hope. I'm looking forward to carousing with all of you! Yes, I am indeed fun and frivolous! (is that what someone said the Taff Attacks were?) Look out Chris Adams and Robert Redmond, I'm right on your stern! Debra

[old] Niall · Post by **[old] Niall** » October 5th, 2004, 12:21 am

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Are you planning to break up the 10K/20K into smaller rows with rests/stretching in between ? </td></tr></table> To be honest, I don't really have a plan. I'm away on business for two days now and didn't plan on doing any rowing (just some gentle swimming and maybe 30 mins on the bike - I always make sure the hotel has leisure facilities!). Then Thursday afternoon, do a very gentle 10K and if I'm up to another 2K after that then all the better. Friday will involve two sessions, one morning, one afternoon. So that's my plan if you want to call it that. Chippy/Chris, Loved the interview posting. Just goes to show that the Welsh have a great sense of humour (God knows we need it sometimes with our rugby team!).

[old] seat5 · Post by **[old] seat5** » October 5th, 2004, 12:30 am

Had a great orchestra rehearsal tonight and the conductor actually gave me a comliment! I was flying so high (guess it doesn't take too much to make me happy does it) that instead of just doing my usual 2K warmup and 10K mixed junk meters I decided to do a half marathon, first of the season. Seeing as how the farthest I've rowed this season was about 15K, I aimed at around 2:10. First half was of course easy. 2nd half I slipped to 2:12 ish and had to stop twice--got a terrible cramp in my left shin, of all places. But I finished feeling pretty Ok at 93:19.5, about a minute slower than my PB. I rated avg 23 for the piece and felt pretty strong. Don't know if I'll row tomorrow at all, Martin, so you'll catch up easily. Hey Deb! Good to see you on the forum. Hope you finish your Kleenex Marathon soon! Niall do be careful! Carla

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 5th, 2004, 2:06 am

Sensational effort Carla !!! To row a 1.33 with minimal build up (only 1 60 min row), dodgy body parts (achilles, back, wrist) and be only a minute off a PB (done no doubt at your peak) is truly worthy of the 'Supergirl' tag. And you now have some impressive Nonathlon points for that effort too I should imagine. Great HM Martin PS But not quite enough Kms. I'm afraid you needed a 10K warmdown (like Bernie's the other day !!!) to keep in front

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 5th, 2004, 2:16 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Debra @ Oct 4 2004, 08:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> I'm sure I have Welsh blood in me. Isn't Berry a common Welsh name? I'm looking forward to carousing with all of you! Yes, I am indeed fun and frivolous! (is that what someone said the Taff Attacks were?) Debra  </td></tr></table> Absolutely Debra, there are Berries (growing) all over Wales. You are more than eligible. And a good way to kick off the Fun and Frivolity is in the choice of an eyecatching avatar. Niall has an excellent recommendation ...... Hope you are back to full strength soon, Martin

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 5th, 2004, 2:42 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Bayko @ Oct 4 2004, 05:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'> I tend to try to do even splits, or slightly negative splits, for the sake of effeciency. It varies a bit early on as during drinks the average split can slip by 0.2 to 0.3 sec/500m, and I spend the next 1000m or so going 1 sec/500m faster than goal pace in order to get the average back where it belongs. As it gets later into the marathon, if I feel it's possible to do so without croaking, I might try to pick up the pace. My most negative split one had the second half-marathon being 60 seconds faster than the first. I haven't tried to sit on 'back chocks' for a drink. I fear losing any momentum I think that it would make the initial pull afterwards that much harder than it is by just slowing down. But that is my own mental problem. People more patient than me might not be so tempted to immediately get back the lost time. Rick  </td></tr></table> Hi Rick, thanks again for the response. I think you and I have quite similar temprements as I can fully relate to all you've said. I tend to row 'at the edge' for my inaugural long distance attempts, figuring that as I'm not going to do this that often I might as well make it a good one. Impatient to set a lowest possible time, there have been no 'easy' exploratory rows at the distance attempted thus far!! Guess I'll learn. Reassuring to hear one can quite often negatively split a marathon whilst still going out on target pace. I've done that with all my inaugural long distance rows and would like to do the same in the FM. At this stage I'm dreaming of a 2.50 time, having done one HM in 1.24, after doing a few more HM's as a lead up - is this realistic in your experience ? Cheers from Aussieland Martin PS I tried the 'back chocks' theory - you are correct in thinking an almost stationary flywheel is PRETTY heavy (esp. will be at the 35K mark !)

[old] CAROLE MAC · Post by **[old] CAROLE MAC** » October 5th, 2004, 3:00 am

Hi Carla ..well done that was brilliant effort for you hm considering your injuries . I am having a nightmare at the moment long shifts not helping thank goodness only one more death by 9-7 leave home at 8 get home at 8 and still have to do my chores . I will have a go at a HM next week and if I get anywhere near your time I will be a happy bunny. \0/ waves at everyone else .... xxxx

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 5th, 2004, 4:45 am

Sadly, I'm going to have to leave Taff Attack.* The reason is that I can <a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3715512.stm' target='_blank'>no longer find Wales on a map</a>! <img src='http://www.red-rose.com/images/wotnowales.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> *only kidding!

[old] Prufrock · Post by **[old] Prufrock** » October 5th, 2004, 5:19 am

Hi everyone Thanks for the Dutch language lesson, Godfried and great row! Niall's response to my pidgin Dutch is still making me chuckle even now. I was out in Voorthuizen and Barneveldt for a while. I think they would agree that God was a Dutchman. I think I'll stick to English from now on Brilliant row Carla. Am I right in believing you have an injured leg as well? If so, then that makes the achievement even more impressive. Good luck with the rows on Thursday and Friday, Niall. I'm sure everything will be ok. Funny post Chippy! Martin, when are you going to do your FM? Your projected time seems very fast!!! Bernard

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 5th, 2004, 5:31 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Daren C @ Oct 5 2004, 03:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Sadly, I'm going to have to leave Taff Attack.* The reason is that I can <a href='http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/3715512.stm' target='_blank'>no longer find Wales on a map</a>! <img src='http://www.red-rose.com/images/wotnowales.jpg' border='0' alt='user posted image' /> *only kidding! </td></tr></table> There it is Daren, floating off to the west (it's Ireland that's sunk ). Come back, you won't drown after all. And we need you (r Kms) ! Martin

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 5th, 2004, 5:40 am

</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE (Prufrock @ Oct 5 2004, 04:19 AM)</td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Martin, when are you going to do your FM? Your projected time seems very fast!!! Bernard </td></tr></table> Thats because it is a PROJECTED time !!! It remains to be seen if I can 'Erg the Talk'. I'm jogging a HM with my daughter on Sunday and will probably pull up pretty stiff and sore so erg training will take a back seat for a little while I suspect. I also want to do 2 HM's first, so marathon attempt Nov at the earliest. At the moment I'm picking the brains of those who have erged this path before. Keep up the impressive Kms Bernie, Martin

[old] Prufrock · Post by **[old] Prufrock** » October 5th, 2004, 5:54 am

Hi Martin I'm sure you'll do the FM well! Do you train for jogging as well as erging? I'm feeling a bit guilty at the moment, because everyone seems to be into erging half or full marathons. Godried, Carla, Daren, yourself are doing very long rows. Unfortunately I'm not down to row no more than two 60 minute rows a week, while the rest of the rows are intervals of between 1 and 15 minutes as BIRC approaches. I suppose I'd better stick with the programme I'm going through because I am so new to rowing/erging. Good luck with the half marathon! Bernard

[old] AussieTaff · Post by **[old] AussieTaff** » October 5th, 2004, 6:10 am

Thanks Bernie, I most definately had to train for the upcoming HM ! Only doing it 'cos my daughter talked me into doing one last July and now wants a repeat (I 'beat' her by 6 mins when she had a toilet break). I used to jog a lot in the 80's and early 90's so have that to draw on at least. Wish she had picked 10K runs though ! HM is just that bit too far to do comfortably. Definately stick to what suits you Bernie, I'm only talking HM's and FM's because I love doing something new and challenging as soon as possible, usually far too soon !! I blame Carla, she pointed me at Nonathlon and now I just HAVE to get max points as soon as I can !! Do your own thing and success will follow (at BIRC), Cheers, Martin

[old] Daren C · Post by **[old] Daren C** » October 5th, 2004, 6:11 am

I have the advantage of not following a programme. =) Although I'm entered in the BIRC, I'm not training for it per se. I've only been rowing for 6 weeks which is far too soon to worry about interval training and the like, as far as I'm concerned. I just want to get my first million out of the way before I try anything structured.

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