Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by Street » October 30th, 2016, 6:10 pm

Week 10 of BPP done for me so it's my first 10k tomorrow morning! Didn't manage to do all five sessions this week as I've just had my house plastered so have been trying to paint and clear up mess. I did the 8k on Friday morning then the optional 7x500m on Saturday.

8000m:
33:23.5 / 8,000m / 2:05.2 / 24
6:41.8 / 1,600m / 2:05.5 / 24
6:41.7 / 3,200m / 2:05.5 / 24
6:42.0 / 4,800m / 2:05.6 / 24
6:40.1 / 6,400m / 2:05.0 / 24
6:37.9 / 8,000m / 2:04.3 / 24

7 x 500m intervals:
1:52.6 / 500m / 1:52.6 / 27
1:52.4 / 500m / 1:52.4 / 27
1:52.7 / 500m / 1:52.7 / 27
1:52.6 / 500m / 1:52.6 / 27
1:52.4 / 500m / 1:52.4 / 27
1:52.2 / 500m / 1:52.2 / 27
1:46.8 / 500m / 1:46.8 / 28

It said to go slightly faster on the last 500m rep but I thought I'd go for it just to see how fast I could actually do it! :D

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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by john_n » October 30th, 2016, 8:12 pm

Glenn- Robustly done 5x1500 with neatly negative incremental intervals. Nice low % HRR on your 8K @ 2:07. And then, you did another 8K @ briskly paced 2:09, since I previously posted here. Piling up the meters.

Lindsay - Plowing through the meters, logging them with solid work. Very impressive pacing on the 10K.

Paul - Vigorous 2:15.7 pace, for your succinctly stated steady state session of October 29th. And a more vigorous 7,500 meter following it on Oct 30th. Solid work. If your legs feel the whack then you’re on the right track.

Luke - You squeezed a LOT more work into your short time of wk 6 day 2 by doing “easy” at 1:59.5. Easy for you, not so for others. :) Add some more cheers, based on that 4x1K you did, toward a sub 7 two-K.

Rohan - Even without the stroke data & chart, that’s an impressive lineup of watts & sub 1:44 pace for each of those 8x500m intervals. And you really plowed through the 15K SS on Oct 30th!

Tim - another healthy 8K, especially under (rather severe) duress and with heart strap flying off! :)

Gordon - Solid, brisk-paced extra-credit BPP work with the 2x10 mins.

Piers - very nice looking, consistent pacing on the pyramid and a lot of gas left for that last 250 meters. You kept the heavy meal down… which is saying something about your conditioning. A few months ago I rowed a set of intervals online with someone who’d eaten just before the session and right afterwards she said, “I feel like I could throw up!” You may not be looking forward to your upcoming 4x2K but I am. :)

Street - Impressive pacing on the 8K and even more so on the 7x500, with the 1:46.8 finish. Very nicely done.

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1,250 warmup & warm down, DF 125
8x500 R3:30
Target pace was 1:55.6 for first 7 intervals
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by mdpfirrman » October 30th, 2016, 8:30 pm

Great work Lindsay on the SB. Lots of good work being done!

Checking on from Cabo. Gym sucks. After yesterday travelling (a lot) and being up 20 hours straight (it was my scheduled day off), slept in a bit. Been walking a TON. Got to the gym today and managed to get a decent lift in and did some running intervals. I remember why I hate running so much. Did manage, though, to get my HR up there a bit (over 180), so I was at least doing some work. Tried out my goggles and fins (prepping for tomorrow). I'm planning on doing my SS work as lots of swimming (in between Bloody Mary's and Fish Tacos).
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by S-man » October 31st, 2016, 12:17 am

Off travelling for 3 weeks now. Not sure how much rowing I'll get to do over this period but at least today, visitng Boston, and managed a great outing on the Charles with an old friend. Magnificent :D Meanwhile keep up the good work and I expect to see some great numbers when I get back.
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by lindsayh » October 31st, 2016, 5:53 am

PP 2.4.1
decided to do the hybrid 4th week as next week is racing and wont be part of a cycle so didn't want to start something I couldn't finish.

2k w/u and c/d @2:12
6x 750/4'r @1:42.9
goal sub 1:45 (but no real benchmarks)
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9/10 PE - felt the legs on this one

1:44.3 (146)
1:43.0 (153)
1:42.8 (157)
1:42.4 (160)
1:42.8 (160)
1:42.2 (161)

(BTW Terry was 1:50.0 on 3'50"r)
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by G-dub » October 31st, 2016, 7:22 am

Way to hang, Piers. Not easy with a full belly.

Lindsay, I'm doing that session coming up. Any thought about its pacing in relation to the other speed sessions?I had thought it was about on 2K pace in a perfect world.
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by lindsayh » October 31st, 2016, 7:59 am

G-dub wrote:Lindsay, I'm doing that session coming up. Any thought about its pacing in relation to the other speed sessions? I had thought it was about on 2K pace in a perfect world.
Yes Glenn that was my thinking by the end of it - in a perfect world the first two would have been faster but with "new" interval sessions I guess you do leave a bit in the tank being unsure what lies ahead. Right now my perfect 2k is probably/hopefully 1:42 or a little better and my "perfect" 8x 500/3:30 is around 1:39 and my 4x1ks say 1:41. I think I could go sub 1:42 next time with this one. (FWIW Terry's 1:50.0 is actually close to his 2k at the moment - he has 7:20 in his sights for Saturday.)
We talked tonight though that is hard to make rules about 2ks from intervals as every one is so different - we have done a lot of them and they suit us so they usually look pretty good and maybe not translate so well into single pieces.
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by aussieluke » October 31st, 2016, 9:09 am

PP week 6 day 3

The bastard waterfall. Goal was just 1:54 or less. Last time was 1:56.something

500m warmup

3000m 1:53.4 r27
2500m 1:53.5 r28
2000m 1:50.5 r31

500m cooldown

It's the 2500m that sucks. After that the 2000 feels like a holiday. Guess that's the point!

Managed to hammer down to 1:44ish for the end of the 2000m. A few hundred meters in at 1:50ish I briefly considered really smashing it and trying to beat 7:00 lol that would have been a mess.
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by G-dub » October 31st, 2016, 9:38 am

lindsayh wrote:
G-dub wrote:Lindsay, I'm doing that session coming up. Any thought about its pacing in relation to the other speed sessions? I had thought it was about on 2K pace in a perfect world.
Yes Glenn that was my thinking by the end of it - in a perfect world the first two would have been faster but with "new" interval sessions I guess you do leave a bit in the tank being unsure what lies ahead. Right now my perfect 2k is probably/hopefully 1:42 or a little better and my "perfect" 8x 500/3:30 is around 1:39 and my 4x1ks say 1:41. I think I could go sub 1:42 next time with this one. (FWIW Terry's 1:50.0 is actually close to his 2k at the moment - he has 7:20 in his sights for Saturday.)
We talked tonight though that is hard to make rules about 2ks from intervals as every one is so different - we have done a lot of them and they suit us so they usually look pretty good and maybe not translate so well into single pieces.
So true about extracting info from intervals. Once you are in a 2K or 5K the distance feels way different (a bunch worse) than just hammering out another 500m interval after 3:30 rest for instance. It is really frustrating me on the 5K - I'm at 1:52 on the 3 endurance intervals and cannot yet hold 1:54 on the real deal.
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by Slacker » October 31st, 2016, 11:04 am

BPP 11.1
10,000m row
46:09.9 @2:18.5 r20

I guess big round even numbers are mentally hurdles. Only 500m longer than last week, but I was worried about finishing the whole time. Made it through and continuing to build a base. I did 8000m on Saturday (BPP10.4) at a really slow pace just to get some more meters in last week.
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by Street » October 31st, 2016, 1:03 pm

Slacker wrote:BPP 11.1
10,000m row
46:09.9 @2:18.5 r20

I guess big round even numbers are mentally hurdles. Only 500m longer than last week, but I was worried about finishing the whole time. Made it through and continuing to build a base. I did 8000m on Saturday (BPP10.4) at a really slow pace just to get some more meters in last week.
I know the feeling. I'm doing my first 10km later tonight.. For some reason it feels like a huge step up despite only being 500m more!

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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by G-dub » October 31st, 2016, 1:03 pm

Rough go today. Attempted 5 x 800 4:30'R. Got 4-1/3 done at 1:45.5 ish. I keep crashing on the longer speed intervals (this one and 1K). Everything else I'm doing interval wise is going well and much better than a year ago. I really need to be ready for 4 x 1K next week. I need a solid finish on that one even if its slow.
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by hjs » October 31st, 2016, 1:33 pm

G-dub wrote:Rough go today. Attempted 5 x 800 4:30'R. Got 4-1/3 done at 1:45.5 ish. I keep crashing on the longer speed intervals (this one and 1K). Everything else I'm doing interval wise is going well and much better than a year ago. I really need to be ready for 4 x 1K next week. I need a solid finish on that one even if its slow.
Start out slower, that way you do finish and you can always speed up in the last reps. Its not what you want that counts, but what you can.

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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by Bloodbuzz Corio » October 31st, 2016, 2:18 pm

@ Piers - nice pyramid Piers - good to get them all under 1:47!
@ John N - very fast final interval in your 8x500 there John - obviously had a bit left in the tank after the first 7.
@ Luke - great outcome on the waterfall, but glad you didn't try for sub 7 as the final interval there - that would not have ended well.
@ Ben - congrats on hitting the 10k mark and Street good luck for yours.

@ Lindsay - look like some strong times for the 6x750 there. What's your race this week - and are you tapering at all for it (even a day or 2) or just counting it as next weeks sprint interval session? What's your target pace (and I assume from your post Terry is racing also)? Good luck to both of you!

@ Glenn - sorry to hear about your outcome there - maybe as Henry suggests do try a 4x1000 where you ease into it to make sure you get through it and get than demon off your back? Even if you didn't achieve your mental objective here the 4 1/3 must still count for something just from a physical standpoint too.

PP 4.1.3 for me today - 5x1500m/5:00r. Average of 1:52.4 is 5k-1.1 and -0.7 to the quickest I've done this previously (which was 12 Sep). Average was brought down by a faster 5th interval, but I'm most happy with how this felt - which was great throughout the intervals, in the rest periods and afterwards - as well as being my quickest this was certainly my best effort at this workout from a control perspective.

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Also happy with the pacing - 3rd interval in particular which had 150/159 strokes at either 1:52, 1:53 or 1:54, negative split trend in the 5th (pictured below) with a sprint that wasn't too crazy - last 27 strokes all between 1:40 and 1:45:

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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

Post by G-dub » October 31st, 2016, 2:21 pm

Thanks H. It's weird how different the "tired" feels to me on the long speed ones - I get more legless and really hit the wall. And I can't seem to synchronize rate and pace to find a good fit so I'm either feeling too much in the legs or getting too winded.

Just saw your work Rohan - nice session! In command feels great.
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