Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd

[hjs]

I'm in if you want, agreeing a name is the next challenge. It's not very clear on the site how you register a team, so you just email the admin?

I think when you sign in, you can choose a team or ad a team, use the plusbutton. You guys need a teamname first.

[hjs]

Results are weighted to age group records. So not absolute results but relative ones score. Being old(er), sub 75kg is very usefull. Being young and big less

....and you need to be in by the end of the month and team registered. (think the flyers teams will struggle this year Henry)
Just have to be prepared to fit in one more monthly challenge for the next 8 months! The same age comparisons are a bit of fun.

Yes, tough to get a team around. Every month the best 8 out of ten count, its 8 months, which if you do it seriously is no small matter. So you need 10 members who are serious. Not scoring a month will ruin the ranks. Individuel you need a score every month. The team has a bit of room, 8 out of 10 are needed to get a good score.

All ages are welcome.

Challenges from 1min up to 10k. So a broad spectrum.

[G-dub]

Jack and the Rabbits?
The POTT's?

[jackarabit]

@ Goldenbarry: catching up (or back--lots of traffic in thread now) very smooth 7k.

@ minnick: Welcome Nick!

@Dean: congrats on 5MMm. 50+ HMs add up! The material rewards are indeed a long sleeve jersey and an enameled pin--suitable for pinning. Persistence feeds on itself!

The badger knows the path he walks.
He knows it very well.
The flitbug flirts with every flower
In hope that one will swell,
To blunt the pricking of the thorn
That the badger knows so well.--Arghy Fuller

Here's to your continued success as a badge-r!

[jackarabit]

What are these POTTS? Post-op time trials perhaps.

[mdpfirrman]

Unreal how much is going on in this thread now. As far as a team challenge, I'm open to it but only if you absolutely need numbers. I think I'm personally strapped to the gills right now with work / working out. Plus, I'd never be under 75kg!!

Nice work Dean! That's a heck of a time on the half. Amazing meters! Congrats on the 5M -- I would have guessed it at more but now I understand since it's mostly been over just a year.

Welcome Nick! That might be confusing as you're the 2nd Nick!

Gordon - agree with Paul on the distance rows. If you're finding them difficult, don't worry. Perhaps it's that you picked too challenging of a distance to start with. The distance rows (whether PP or BPP), especially the optional days, should be recovery rows more or less. Let pace on the distance pieces "come to you". Dean didn't start out rowing half marathons sub 2:00 pace. Gradually his HR came down on his SS rows and he gradually upped the pace. Dean does a TON of UT2 work and all that SS work pays off. Too many rows that are hard just gets you injured.

Luke - Loved the post on KBs. Thanks! A lot of what you said just kind of confirms my sentiment. I just mostly love S&S because the fast / slow fiber work combined and the efficiency. I'm all about efficiency / time. That's what I love about rowing - bang for the buck - working muscles while doing cardio. Also what I love about KBs. I honestly don't have either the knee or the time to do something like a 5 X 5 and sit there and wait and wait to do the next sets. Would much rather bang it out, be done and move on. I can do the S&S in around 30 minutes 3 X a week and be in as good as shape as I'll ever need (and improve my rowing too). Completely agree about Getups. Should be done very slowly and focus on technique (using lighter weights if necessary).

I have a 20 lb (8kg?) KB at home. Think I'll just buy the 24kg one. I've done a lot of one arm swings, but I'm starting out mostly with two arm ones now on the S&S. Agree with you on the importance of the drive / fast twitch (and how it suffers with one arm). My gym has every size and I mostly use the 50lb one (closest to the 24 kg one) there for swings and the 35 lb (16 kg one) for getups.

[G-dub]

What are these POTTS? Post-op time trials perhaps.

PuXXy of the Thread - a term brought to us by Henry

[bisqeet]

Henry's H8tefull 8

[G-dub]

Nice one Dean.

[jackarabit]

Ergtastics? Or maybe Ergspastics? Ergmanics. Ergonauts. Ergonomics. Ergatomics? Will there be backup dancers in fishnets?

[mininick]

Welcome Nick! That might be confusing as you're the 2nd Nick!

Feel free to call me 'mini-Nick' to differentiate. It's always been a nickname of mine. I'm not offended by the truth that I am short!

[mudgeg]

I would be up for the Team Challenge but I may well drag you down as a newbie. Also I am old and big!

As for a name - how about my lawyers 'Norfolk & Chance' (say it quickly).

Paul: thanks for the advice. I am sure my problem yesterday was a combination of ill omens combined with trying to do a record pace (for me) on a longish row the day after a vey challenging 3 x 1000m.

Mike: likewise many thanks. Again, don't think it was the distance as I did it easily a few days before. It's all about learning when to go solid and steady and when to force the pace and I just got that wrong.

@mininick: spot on about use of the erg in the gym. Couple of days ago I witnessed my gym manager explaining the erg to a new member. It was comical.

Off to try another 6k in a couple of hours..........

[mininick]

Sneaked in my BPP W2D3 session this afternoon. I know I won't be able to have another session until at least Monday, probably Tuesday, so it had to be today really. I'd rather have a day off after the intervals session yesterday but, alas, not to be!

Today's session: BPP W2D3

5500m @ 2.17.0 r 23

25:07.6 total time. The overall average of 2:17 is very slightly misleading - until the last 300m I was at 2.18 (my target) and, knowing I won't row again until next week, I allowed myself to get carried away, with a free rate escalating gradually in to the mid 30s (for the last 30 seconds or so). I'm sure there are plenty of reasons why I should have just kept going at 2.18; in those last 30 seconds I pushed myself harder than I can remember in the last 10 years!

Without a day of rest between sessions, today felt really hard, especially in the middle. My lats were reminding me they were tired and I had to constantly remind myself that the key is technique. Most of the time that goes without saying, but today I was mentally slipping.

Keeping 2:18 was tough - I had to let it go out to 2:20+ a couple of times just to recover a little before sustaining 2:18 again. Maybe I'm pushing myself too hard on Days 1 and 3? Experimented in my warm up with a lower DF. Anything under my usual 125 just didn't feel right, forcing me above a 24 rating that I wanted to as a maximum.

Few days off now to recover!

[JohnAd]

Reality check time for me.

PP 2.2.4 Extra day off

PP 2.2.5 10' for CTC
WU 2k with 3 power 10s
Target 1:47.8
1:48.8 r28
1:48.4 r27
1:48.6 r27
2:47.5 r17
1:46.1 r32
total 2579m

So I worked out my pace using a Paul's law spreadsheet and off I went at a bit slower with a plan to negative split it, but it was all very heavy and when I got to 2k and realised there was still nearly 3 minutes to go the HD deamons got control of my fingers and I let go. I sat feeling pretty sorry for myself for about a minute and then picked up and finished which hurt. Perhaps a timely reminder of what a 2k test is really like after all these intervals giving me ideas above my station.

[G-dub]

I admire you for picking the handle back up. I wouldn't assume anything about it as it relates to the progress you are making. Bad days happen and 10' sounds like a journey to hell.