Dwayne K. Adams, 5:46,2 Verified

[[old] ranger]

<!--QuoteBegin--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Another Ranger thread </td></tr></table><br /><br />Dwayne brought it up, Sir P.<br /><br />I am just answering.<br /><br />It's a serious issue that D is laughing at.<br /><br />ranger

[[old] KevP]

Dwayne,<br /><br />A message from Bloomin' freezing England,<br /><br />"Congratulations!!"<br /><br />Kev_P

[[old] Graham Benton]

Dwayne, I think most people would be interested to hear how you approached the row and how it felt? Do you think that you could have gone any quicker? What were your splits and spm? Did it feel any different having not done any specific race pace preparation? What was your target before you started ... did you think you were on for such a good time? G

[[old] Niall]

Good call Big G, it'd be great to get an insight into Dwayne's row.

[[old] mpukita]

<!--QuoteBegin-Sir Pirate+Jan 24 2006, 02:49 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Sir Pirate @ Jan 24 2006, 02:49 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Instead of Dwaynes 5:46.2, cant we talk about The MAD Team  <br /><br />Sir Pirate <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Yes, I'll start ... you guys are an impressive lot ... what in the world do you all eat, kryptonite?<br /><br />

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Jan 24 2006, 06:17 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Jan 24 2006, 06:17 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->To row 6:16, I need to be able to row a relaxed, normal, and fully aerobic 1:48 @ 22 spm for a marathon. To row 6:20, this should be 1:50 @ 22 spm. Without a stroke with this power, I don't think I have any chance of improving. These kinds of rates and times would give me a an easy, relaxed, stroke of 12.0-12.5 SPI. </td></tr></table><br /><!--QuoteBegin-Sir Pirate+Jan 23 2006, 10:43 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Sir Pirate @ Jan 23 2006, 10:43 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />     <br /><br />Another Ranger thread  <br /><br />Dont you just love Ranger?  <br /><br />Sir P </td></tr></table><br />This is the problem with Dwayne's rowing.<br /><br />Now if he could just do a marathon, at a nice easy relaxed 1:38 pace and 14 spm, well then he'd be able to row a 5:36, or so, for the 2k. <br /><br />Maybe...... but these things take time....... you see. <br />

[[old] gcanyon]

<!--QuoteBegin-Ericr+Jan 23 2006, 03:30 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Ericr @ Jan 23 2006, 03:30 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-chrisa770+Jan 23 2006, 05:56 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(chrisa770 @ Jan 23 2006, 05:56 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I beleive Chad ceded his position a little too soon. I am still skeptical. Credibility has been lost here. To post such an astounding time outside of an open venue seems incredulous, especially when Dwayne seems reluctant to enter a sanctioned race. I still hold my postion that any times other than sanctioned race times are poppycock.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Come on, how can a PM3-code be forged when it's encrypted and only very few can row a sub 5:50 for 2K? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I hesitate to post, but this could easily be done. But first, a disclaimer: I am not suggesting that anyone has done this.<br /><br />1. Get a team together. As previously described, each rows about 500 meters, with the end time for 2000 meters being the desired time.<br /><br />If all that's needed is the code, stop here. If you want a witness, follow up with:<br /><br />2. Take your log card to a gym, ask someone distracted to act as a witness. <br />3. If they are watching, set up for 2000 meters. If not, set up for something you can row in the desired time.<br />4. Row for roughly the desired time. The distracted witness isn't watching your PM3, so they don't see that you are rowing a shorter distance.<br />5. Finish, and bring up the display for the row you did earlier with the team of rowers. Show it to the distracted person. Note that I am not in front of a PM3, so I don't know what subterfuge would be necessary to fool them into thinking that the row you did earlier is the row you just pulled. I do know that magicians manage to levitate people all the time, and that's probably harder than fooling someone regarding the PM3.<br /><br />Either way, when you're done, submit the confirmation code from the team effort, and you're done.<br /><br />Again, I am _not_ suggesting that anyone has done this. It would be silly and pathetic, and I hope we're all above it. Nevertheless, to suggest that the system can't be gamed is naive.<br /><br />The _only_ way to prove without question that you can row a certain result is to do it in front of people who are paying attention, on equipment that you haven't had access to. <br /><br />In short, do it at a race event.

[[old] ancho]

HUGE congrats, Dwayne. <br />Nevertheless I feel somehow sorry you did it under the concurring circumstances.<br />Difficult to stand all that provocation, eh?<br />Would love to see you racing, but: when you prefer/plan to!<br />Keep it on!

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-gcanyon+Jan 24 2006, 09:53 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(gcanyon @ Jan 24 2006, 09:53 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->1. Get a team together. As previously described, each rows about 500 meters, with the end time for 2000 meters being the desired time. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Check the Rankings for people capable of being assembled for such a thing, i.e. 500M times faster than 1:26 (to allow for the swaps). There seem to be a lot at first glance, but then many are not in AZ or even very close to AZ, so even if this conspiracy could be orchestrated by someone on a whim (for a particular w/e, as the codes are date sensitive. I found that out when the date on my PM3 was wrong and entered a V_code.) it sure seems like a lot of trouble to produce an easily plausible time.<br /><br />Since this seems to be a recurring question, how about someone just go ahead and do whatever they can to hoodwink the process, and when the implausible time with the IND_V gets questioned, just admit, "yep, we just got together to make a point."? Speculating on how to do it is one thing, getting it done is another. Don't banks hire security consultants that do just this sort of thing to test the systems? Not that an "honor board" really needs to be all that secure, but that seems to be what some want.

[[old] Chad Williams]

<!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Jan 24 2006, 01:17 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Jan 24 2006, 01:17 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->To row 6:16, I need to be able to row a relaxed, normal, and fully aerobic 1:48 @ 22 spm for a marathon. To row 6:20, this should be 1:50 @ 22 spm. ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Ranger, I do a 90 minute r22 at 1.50 row twice a week. With respect, I don't think it is something you can just get on and "row" it has taken me just over 6 months to be able to row these comfortably. I would not like to row a full marathon at that rate and pace, I think I could do it, but it would be very hard on me when I reach the end.<br /><br />I am over 7" taller than you and a lot heavier, so I think you may have set your targets a bit too high.<br /><br />It would be an amazing piece of rowing if you could do it at a 50-59 Lightweight. wish you luck with it.

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 24 2006, 10:30 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 24 2006, 10:30 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Jan 24 2006, 01:17 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Jan 24 2006, 01:17 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->To row 6:16, I need to be able to row a relaxed, normal, and fully aerobic 1:48 @ 22 spm for a marathon. To row 6:20, this should be 1:50 @ 22 spm. ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Ranger, I do a 90 minute r22 at 1.50 row twice a week. With respect, I don't think it is something you can just get on and "row" it has taken me just over 6 months to be able to row these comfortably. I would not like to row a full marathon at that rate and pace, I think I could do it, but it would be very hard on me when I reach the end.<br /><br />I am over 7" taller than you and a lot heavier, so I think you may have set your targets a bit too high.<br /><br />It would be an amazing piece of rowing if you could do it at a 50-59 Lightweight. wish you luck with it. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Chad,<br /><br />You must understand that Ranger is a master at speculation, based on years of skipping, stepping, situps, etc... and equates 300watts on the stepper with 300watts on the Erg. He's declared a 1:46 Half marathon to be "light and frothy" for himself, which could only be the case for folks that are not just a bit "sub-six" for the 2k, but comfortably sub-six. (Well as comfortable as it can be, which is not all that comfortable. Maybe my definition of comfortable varies from others.)

[[old] FrancoisA]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 24 2006, 06:30 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 24 2006, 06:30 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Jan 24 2006, 01:17 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Jan 24 2006, 01:17 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->To row 6:16, I need to be able to row a relaxed, normal, and fully aerobic 1:48 @ 22 spm for a marathon. To row 6:20, this should be 1:50 @ 22 spm. ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Ranger, I do a 90 minute r22 at 1.50 row twice a week. With respect, I don't think it is something you can just get on and "row" it has taken me just over 6 months to be able to row these comfortably. I would not like to row a full marathon at that rate and pace, I think I could do it, but it would be very hard on me when I reach the end.<br /><br />I am over 7" taller than you and a lot heavier, so I think you may have set your targets a bit too high.<br /><br />It would be an amazing piece of rowing if you could do it at a 50-59 Lightweight. wish you luck with it. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Chad, nothing is impossible to Ranger, as he is no ordinary mortal! In fact, I suspect he is bionic, which is why it took 3 years of heavy reprogramming to change his stroke (software projects are always late) ! <br /><br />What I don't understand is the math he used: if 1:48 @ 22 spm is needed to achieve 6:16, why do one needs 1:50 @ 22 spm to achieve 6:20 ? Shouldn't it be 1:49 @ 22 spm ? More generally, I don't see why rowing a marathon at 1:48 @ 22 spm is a necessary and sufficient condition for a 6:16 2k.

[[old] Chad Williams]

My hardest session is r18 1.50-1.51 for 90 minutes. He can try that if he wants.<br />

[[old] Chad Williams]

Just to let you know, coach says I can give some details out on rows, as long as I don't give my HR <br /><br />

[[old] hjs]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 24 2006, 07:30 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 24 2006, 07:30 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-ranger+Jan 24 2006, 01:17 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ranger @ Jan 24 2006, 01:17 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->To row 6:16, I need to be able to row a relaxed, normal, and fully aerobic 1:48 @ 22 spm for a marathon. To row 6:20, this should be 1:50 @ 22 spm. ranger <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Ranger, I do a 90 minute r22 at 1.50 row twice a week. With respect, I don't think it is something you can just get on and "row" it has taken me just over 6 months to be able to row these comfortably. I would not like to row a full marathon at that rate and pace, I think I could do it, but it would be very hard on me when I reach the end.<br /><br />I am over 7" taller than you and a lot heavier, so I think you may have set your targets a bit too high.<br /><br />It would be an amazing piece of rowing if you could do it at a 50-59 Lightweight. wish you luck with it. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Ps you could give your hartrate too, aslong as you don't give your heartreserve <br /><br /><br />What's this chad , you do give information.<br />we now now you are Amerikan, live in the uk, age 42, height 6.6 weight +/- 210/230??, never erged a race, preparing for birc next year and you do 2 a week 90 min 22 r pace 1.50.