Haha...thanks for letting me join guys. Jack, I'm just a middle-aged accountant who picked up erging after about an eight year vacation.jackarabit wrote:Suffering or not, whatever you're doing is working for you, Joe L. If you want to train with our troupe of athletic strivers and dreamers, your audition sure passed muster with me! I'll restrain my curiosity about who you are when you're at home and say Welcome Joe.
Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
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Makes sense; I'm flexible thanks to the erg. How about an initial critique?mdpfirrman wrote: We'd love to have you but I'd consider jumping in at the start of the cycle, which would be the start of week 4 or the start of week 7. The cycles are 3 weeks each (for a complete PP cycle). We agreed to keep the plan as written and not add in a fourth week (I think). Perhaps that's what you were referring to.
Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
rel. constant pace @ constant rate.Kfriedenberger wrote:Makes sense; I'm flexible thanks to the erg. How about an initial critique?mdpfirrman wrote: We'd love to have you but I'd consider jumping in at the start of the cycle, which would be the start of week 4 or the start of week 7. The cycles are 3 weeks each (for a complete PP cycle). We agreed to keep the plan as written and not add in a fourth week (I think). Perhaps that's what you were referring to.
the stroke is lacking a bit of power for 32 spm, but that can be worked on either by developing power and or technique.
looks like a good base to start on.
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
not bad... looking at your times for the 8x500 - I wouldnt be suprised at a 6:30 2k time, which would put you up there with the best of em.Joe L wrote:Haha...thanks for letting me join guys. Jack, I'm just a middle-aged accountant who picked up erging after about an eight year vacation.jackarabit wrote:Suffering or not, whatever you're doing is working for you, Joe L. If you want to train with our troupe of athletic strivers and dreamers, your audition sure passed muster with me! I'll restrain my curiosity about who you are when you're at home and say Welcome Joe.
so you're not the MMA profi, then
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~seven days without rowing makes one weak~
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~seven days without rowing makes one weak~
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
@ Joe L:
I was curious about your indoor rowing history, Joe. Hung up the skates for a few yrs. and came back is explanation enuf for now. If you had success as a competitor, that's educational value added for those of us who are currently competing or hope to. If you didn't do erging comps in the past, sounds like you have good reason to think about it!
I was curious about your indoor rowing history, Joe. Hung up the skates for a few yrs. and came back is explanation enuf for now. If you had success as a competitor, that's educational value added for those of us who are currently competing or hope to. If you didn't do erging comps in the past, sounds like you have good reason to think about it!
There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
Started out too ambitious. Tried for 1:54 but ended with 1:57.6. As you can see, I flagged considerably after the first 4. Alas, this gives me a good idea about how to pace the next sets. Feels good to get wasted by the erg once again!
Looking forward to distance rowing tomorrow.
Looking forward to distance rowing tomorrow.
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Time Meters SPM HR Watts
01:53.7 500 30 173 238
01:55.9 500 30 179 225
01:56.6 500 30 179 221
01:55.7 500 32 181 226
01:58.4 500 30 178 211
01:59.7 500 29 180 204
02:00.0 500 28 177 203
02:01.1 500 29 180 197
Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
I initially thought 1:47.5 for this but even on the first rep it was clear that was a bit slow so I reset the target to 1:47 and then when I got to the last one I could hear people saying that rating is too low and tried a higher rating and what do you know it did seem to work. So next time I've got to go for 1:46.1
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Time Meters SPM HR
01:47.2 500 26 146
01:46.9 500 26 150
01:46.9 500 26 154
01:46.8 500 26 157
01:47.0 500 26 156
01:46.9 500 26 158
01:47.0 500 26 163
01:40.4 500 30 171
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
Solid work John! I think you have it figured out. Now it is about dialing it in. The steady HR is enviable.
Eliot - great work too. It takes quite a lot of fortitude to hang in there and finish.
Eliot - great work too. It takes quite a lot of fortitude to hang in there and finish.
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
No, that's Joe Lauzon. My last name is Lauzen.bisqeet wrote:not bad... looking at your times for the 8x500 - I wouldnt be suprised at a 6:30 2k time, which would put you up there with the best of em.Joe L wrote:Haha...thanks for letting me join guys. Jack, I'm just a middle-aged accountant who picked up erging after about an eight year vacation.jackarabit wrote:Suffering or not, whatever you're doing is working for you, Joe L. If you want to train with our troupe of athletic strivers and dreamers, your audition sure passed muster with me! I'll restrain my curiosity about who you are when you're at home and say Welcome Joe.
so you're not the MMA profi, then
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
Yes, very nice you two. Eliot - no one can accuse you of dialing it back to reserve too much! Nice job finishing.
Very strong John!
Very strong John!
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
Hi Jack,jackarabit wrote:@ Joe L:
I was curious about your indoor rowing history, Joe. Hung up the skates for a few yrs. and came back is explanation enuf for now. If you had success as a competitor, that's educational value added for those of us who are currently competing or hope to. If you didn't do erging comps in the past, sounds like you have good reason to think about it!
I haven't competed in any erg races. I damaged the cartilage in my right hip about 10 years ago. Well, that's when it got so bad that I wasn't able to continue running. I'm sure it was the result of several years of abuse. That's when I started to erg and found that it suited my body type much better. I erged pretty hard for a couple of years and got down to a 2K in the mid 6:20s (I don't have record of my exact PB).
I started back up again in January 2016 to try and get back in shape (turned 40 this year). Along with maintaining fitness, my stretch goal is to be faster than in my early 30s. I don't think I'm too far off now, but in order to be sure, I'd like to break 6:20. I'm not close to getting below 1:35 per 500 for 2K but it's something to shoot for.
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
W1D1 8 x 500m r3.5'
Aiming for 2:03 (2k-2)
Avg 2:03.0 r27
Splits:
2:03.6 r 28
2:03.4 r 27
2:03.2 r 27
2:03.2 r 27
2:03.0 r 28
2:03.2 r 27
2:03.2 r 27
2:01.9 r 28
First session! Did a 2k last week to get an idea of pace. 8' 19s was slower than I was expecting (although last time I was under 8 min, barely, was in 2009 ) so lot to work on! Decided to pace these at 2k-2 since there's a long way to go and the PP mileage is about double what I've been doing recently (~20-25k/week).
Looking forward to upping my game on this training program
Aiming for 2:03 (2k-2)
Avg 2:03.0 r27
Splits:
2:03.6 r 28
2:03.4 r 27
2:03.2 r 27
2:03.2 r 27
2:03.0 r 28
2:03.2 r 27
2:03.2 r 27
2:01.9 r 28
First session! Did a 2k last week to get an idea of pace. 8' 19s was slower than I was expecting (although last time I was under 8 min, barely, was in 2009 ) so lot to work on! Decided to pace these at 2k-2 since there's a long way to go and the PP mileage is about double what I've been doing recently (~20-25k/week).
Looking forward to upping my game on this training program
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
Wk 1: Endurance intervals
5x1500m/5'R
Pace target: 2K PB + 5 (2:09.4)? Maybe session PB from Nov. '15 (2:08.3)? Quien sabe?
Df115
abbreviated Fletcher WP: 17' 45". 3634m.
2k CD
Gassed in 4. #5 a managed fade to get the new average of 2:06.5.
1.8"' improvement from last November.
Might have been better to produce a bit less "improvement" but it's done.
5x1500m/5'R
Pace target: 2K PB + 5 (2:09.4)? Maybe session PB from Nov. '15 (2:08.3)? Quien sabe?
Df115
abbreviated Fletcher WP: 17' 45". 3634m.
2k CD
Gassed in 4. #5 a managed fade to get the new average of 2:06.5.
1.8"' improvement from last November.
Might have been better to produce a bit less "improvement" but it's done.
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
Nice work S-Man!! I would concur with you to take it easy on the first go around.
@ Jack - Very nice Jack. Nothing left at the end is OK. You definitely gave it your all and more. Nice work on the big improvement from last year. All those L4 sessions are paying off for you this time around!
@ Jack - Very nice Jack. Nothing left at the end is OK. You definitely gave it your all and more. Nice work on the big improvement from last year. All those L4 sessions are paying off for you this time around!
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Re: Pete Plan Group - Startup Aug 20th thru 22nd
Nice work Jack. Made some progress since last time! Good things ahead I think, once you get used to the new you!
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