Dwyane Adams - Fake Or Real?

[old] hjs · Post by **[old] hjs** » January 21st, 2006, 2:05 pm

hjs:<br /><br />I've never said that everyone should be alike ... and never will. Heck, I just closed the purcase of an apartment (this past Tuesday) in Italy, in a town where little English is spoken (I've taught myself Italian) and I plan to spend as much time as possible there, before retirement and spending whole summers and other extended periods there. My goal is to be accepted there as a local, not as a visitor. I've tried to adapt to the customs of the region, and I've come to be a pretty good cook of the tradiitional local dishes there ... which has earned me a bit of acclaim from my Italian friends there. They are amazed an American would be so flexible and so interested in trying on their way of life -- which is wonderful by the way. I tell you this not to show off, but to give you some context and to help us understand one another more deeply.<br /><br />With regard to training, even if you were my strongest competitor, my goal would be to help you get as good as you can be, and I would hope likewise from you. It's not like there's any money involved here ... all there is is personal achievement and satisfaction. I'd take great satisfaction in helping someone get better at this sport ... and in my meager way, I believe I have helped some beginners, and thus feel satisfied that I have contributed.<br /><br />I'm an individual surely, but you know, deep down inside, that the American thing was a crack that was uncalled for. Wrap it up however you want, rationalize it however you want, it was still aimed to be uncomplimentary withour reason. I hold no grudges, but I do like to call a spade an spade, and a diamond a diamond. A pet peeve of mine, or a "bete noir" as they say in France (sorry for mis-spelling if I have).<br /><br />-- Mark <br /><br /><br />Ok If it makes you happy I apologice , although I think I have got the right to say what I want.<br /><br />About your apartment, nice move, I think and hope you will like it there.<br /><br />About the trainingadvice. If we were both at worldlevel and you would help me that would be very nice but not very clever. And most people wouldn't I think.<br /><br /><br /><br />

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » January 21st, 2006, 2:32 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Jan 21 2006, 02:05 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>About the trainingadvice. If we were both at worldlevel and you would help me that would be very nice but not very clever. And most people wouldn't I think. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I'd like to think I'm clever in helping people and making friends. It's a shame that most people wouldn't help one another at that level ... and we do see that here. <br /><br />Some world record holders and top current competitors share every little detail of their training, even publishing hundreds of pages of documentation, references, and postings for no remuneration except self-satisfaction at helping others succeed, while similar others keep it secret or only provide vague help to others.<br /><br />It's too bad we can't be one of the few, or perhaps one of the only, sports where mutual desire to see one another succeed, while still having vigorous competition, was a goal. But, alas, that's life in this world. That doesn't mean though that some of us can't choose to act as if it weren't. My training log is linked to those of others who, in a year or two, I exect to be competing with in both time, age, and weight class. I have a feeling they're the kind of people who will still allow me to see how they train, as will I with them.<br /><br />Your philosphy of life is different than mine. You've even suggested that I'm not very clever, because I don't approach life like you. I'd suggest that there is a possibility that I might be more enlightened, not that you are less clever than me.

[old] Sir Pirate · Post by **[old] Sir Pirate** » January 21st, 2006, 2:42 pm

You lot still at it over here <br /><br />I only came over to see if Dwayne had done his 2000m yet, I guess not.<br /><br />Will try again tomorrow <br /><br />Sir Pirate

[old] hjs · Post by **[old] hjs** » January 21st, 2006, 2:48 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Jan 21 2006, 07:32 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Jan 21 2006, 02:05 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>About the trainingadvice. If we were both at worldlevel and you would help me that would be very nice but not very clever. And most people wouldn't I think. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I'd like to think I'm clever in helping people and making friends. It's a shame that most people wouldn't help one another at that level ... and we do see that here. <br /><br />Some world record holders and top current competitors share every little detail of their training, even publishing hundreds of pages of documentation, references, and postings for no remuneration except self-satisfaction at helping others succeed, while similar others keep it secret or only provide vague help to others.<br /><br />It's too bad we can't be one of the few, or perhaps one of the only, sports where mutual desire to see one another succeed, while still having vigorous competition, was a goal. But, alas, that's life in this world. That doesn't mean though that some of us can't choose to act as if it weren't. My training log is linked to those of others who, in a year or two, I exect to be competing with in both time, age, and weight class. I have a feeling they're the kind of people who will still allow me to see how they train, as will I with them.<br /><br />Your philosphy of life is different than mine. You've even suggested that I'm not very clever, because I don't approach life like you. I'd suggest that there is a possibility that I might be more enlightened, not that you are less clever than me. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />mark<br /><br />One thing I never suggested : "You've even suggested that I'm not very clever " Don't forget englisch is not my native language, I do make mistakes because off that. <br />And Yes we don't think alike. To me life in general is one great "fight", it,s all about competion. Survivel of the fittest. That's Often not so nice but reality. <br />

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » January 21st, 2006, 3:21 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Jan 21 2006, 02:48 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(mpukita @ Jan 21 2006, 07:32 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(hjs @ Jan 21 2006, 02:05 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>About the trainingadvice. If we were both at worldlevel and you would help me that would be very nice but not very clever. And most people wouldn't I think. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />I'd like to think I'm clever in helping people and making friends. It's a shame that most people wouldn't help one another at that level ... and we do see that here. <br /><br />Some world record holders and top current competitors share every little detail of their training, even publishing hundreds of pages of documentation, references, and postings for no remuneration except self-satisfaction at helping others succeed, while similar others keep it secret or only provide vague help to others.<br /><br />It's too bad we can't be one of the few, or perhaps one of the only, sports where mutual desire to see one another succeed, while still having vigorous competition, was a goal. But, alas, that's life in this world. That doesn't mean though that some of us can't choose to act as if it weren't. My training log is linked to those of others who, in a year or two, I exect to be competing with in both time, age, and weight class. I have a feeling they're the kind of people who will still allow me to see how they train, as will I with them.<br /><br />Your philosphy of life is different than mine. You've even suggested that I'm not very clever, because I don't approach life like you. I'd suggest that there is a possibility that I might be more enlightened, not that you are less clever than me. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />mark<br /><br />One thing I never suggested : "You've even suggested that I'm not very clever " Don't forget englisch is not my native language, I do make mistakes because off that. <br />And Yes we don't think alike. To me life in general is one great "fight", it,s all about competion. Survivel of the fittest. That's Often not so nice but reality. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />hjs:<br /><br />Sorry, I did forget that English is not your first language, so I apologize if I took the clever comment the wrong way ... and I do understand the difference ... especially when using my marginally acceptable Italian!<br /><br />By the way, your English is very good!<br /><br />Cheers!<br /><br />-- Mark

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » January 21st, 2006, 3:22 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Chad Williams Today, 11:01 AM <br />I want to see proof of that claim. </td></tr></table><br /><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kinley @ Jan 21 2006, 08:54 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>He's from Missouri </td></tr></table><br /> <br />

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » January 21st, 2006, 3:27 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(FrancoisA @ Jan 21 2006, 09:35 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Even though my times are quite average, after reading this thread, I edited my recent ranked PBs with the PM3 code, in order to get an "IND_V". </td></tr></table><br /><br />I've been curious how that works.<br /><br />Does the pm3 display a number, than you type that number in your log?<br /><br />Or does the pm3 have to be connected to a computer.<br />

[old] FrancoisA · Post by **[old] FrancoisA** » January 21st, 2006, 3:51 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 21 2006, 07:27 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(FrancoisA @ Jan 21 2006, 09:35 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Even though my times are quite average, after reading this thread, I edited my recent ranked PBs with the PM3 code, in order to get an "IND_V". </td></tr></table><br /><br />I've been curious how that works.<br /><br />Does the pm3 display a number, than you type that number in your log?<br /><br />Or does the pm3 have to be connected to a computer. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />John,<br /><br />Yes, the PM3 displays a number. The way to access it is explained on this <a href='http://www.concept2.com/sranking03/code_explanation.asp' target='_blank'>link</a>.<br />No, you don't need to have it connected to a computer.<br /><br />You can get a code for an any event you have done in the past if it is still on your log card. For instance, I did a 60 min PB on Dec. 17, but only retrieved the code two days ago. <br /><br />Francois

[old] Citroen · Post by **[old] Citroen** » January 21st, 2006, 4:43 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(FrancoisA @ Jan 21 2006, 07:51 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 21 2006, 07:27 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(FrancoisA @ Jan 21 2006, 09:35 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Even though my times are quite average, after reading this thread, I edited my recent ranked PBs with the PM3 code, in order to get an "IND_V". </td></tr></table><br /><br />I've been curious how that works.<br /><br />Does the pm3 display a number, than you type that number in your log?<br /><br />Or does the pm3 have to be connected to a computer. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />John,<br /><br />Yes, the PM3 displays a number. The way to access it is explained on this <a href='http://www.concept2.com/sranking03/code_explanation.asp' target='_blank'>link</a>.<br />No, you don't need to have it connected to a computer.<br /><br />You can get a code for an any event you have done in the past if it is still on your log card. For instance, I did a 60 min PB on Dec. 17, but only retrieved the code two days ago. <br /><br />Francois <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />It's quite well hidden that link. I was looking at <a href='http://www.concept2.com/pm3' target='_blank'>http://www.concept2.com/pm3</a> for that information.<br /><br />It's also a shame that the PM3 Logcard Util can't generate these codes. I'll have to take a paper and pen into the gym as there's a couple of pieces I'd like to get as IND_V.

[old] PaulH · Post by **[old] PaulH** » January 21st, 2006, 5:43 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(nysaag @ Jan 20 2006, 04:40 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Perhaps C2 can check its logs for the originating IP addresses on the Chad Williams and John Rupp posts. I believe thay will be the same. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />The specific two names you mention do not originate from the same IP. I also haven't noticed Chad's IP being the same as anyone else's, though I've only done a cursory check.<br /><br />Cheers, Paul

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » January 21st, 2006, 6:04 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulH @ Jan 21 2006, 01:43 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>The specific two names you mention do not originate from the same IP. I also haven't noticed Chad's IP being the same as anyone else's, though I've only done a cursory check.<br /><br />Cheers, Paul </td></tr></table><br /><br />That is a violation of internet privacy.<br /><br />I have already stated that I don't know who Chad is and had not seen him post anywhere prior to this thread.<br /><br />That being said, it is none of your damned business.<br /><br />You should get approval from C2 before divulging personal information. Also, put that you're going to do that in the guidelines and then make it accessible to everyone if that is your wont.<br /><br />There is already a lawsuit against Google for that kind of shenanigans.<br />

[old] Citroen · Post by **[old] Citroen** » January 21st, 2006, 6:20 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulH @ Jan 21 2006, 09:43 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(nysaag @ Jan 20 2006, 04:40 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Perhaps C2 can check its logs for the originating IP addresses on the Chad Williams and John Rupp posts. I believe thay will be the same. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />The specific two names you mention do not originate from the same IP. I also haven't noticed Chad's IP being the same as anyone else's, though I've only done a cursory check.<br /><br />Cheers, Paul <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Is is possible for you to run Chad's IP address through a whois service <b>and</b> tell us whether it comes out as an American ISP or one from somewhere else?<br /><br />Beware that the geographical location by IP addr stuff it's correct. My fixed IP address is based at my ISP in Aberdeen (a long way from Basingstoke).

[old] PaulH · Post by **[old] PaulH** » January 21st, 2006, 6:34 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 21 2006, 05:04 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulH @ Jan 21 2006, 01:43 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>The specific two names you mention do not originate from the same IP. I also haven't noticed Chad's IP being the same as anyone else's, though I've only done a cursory check.<br /><br />Cheers, Paul </td></tr></table><br /><br />That is a violation of internet privacy.<br /><br />I have already stated that I don't know who Chad is and had not seen him post anywhere prior to this thread.<br /><br />That being said, it is none of your damned business.<br /><br />You should get approval from C2 before divulging personal information. Also, put that you're going to do that in the guidelines and then make it accessible to everyone if that is your wont.<br /><br />There is already a lawsuit against Google for that kind of shenanigans. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />What personal information did I divulge?<br /><br />Cheers, Paul

[old] PaulH · Post by **[old] PaulH** » January 21st, 2006, 6:41 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Citroen @ Jan 21 2006, 05:20 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulH @ Jan 21 2006, 09:43 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(nysaag @ Jan 20 2006, 04:40 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Perhaps C2 can check its logs for the originating IP addresses on the Chad Williams and John Rupp posts. I believe thay will be the same. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />The specific two names you mention do not originate from the same IP. I also haven't noticed Chad's IP being the same as anyone else's, though I've only done a cursory check.<br /><br />Cheers, Paul <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Is is possible for you to run Chad's IP address through a whois service <b>and</b> tell us whether it comes out as an American ISP or one from somewhere else?<br /><br />Beware that the geographical location by IP addr stuff it's correct. My fixed IP address is based at my ISP in Aberdeen (a long way from Basingstoke). <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I'm not going to do this - I'm happy to confirm that Chad does not appear to be another forum member posting in disguise, and in particular that John should not be blamed for what Chad has said (though, of course, I can't *prove* that, though I'm satisfied that it is true) I have no interest in tracking down information about Chad, nor would I use non-public information from the forum to do so.<br /><br />Cheers, Paul

[old] PaulS · Post by **[old] PaulS** » January 21st, 2006, 7:27 pm

Okay the count is now 2 and a "half" PM's to me, though the "half" could quite easily be a "0" (according to the author) and only 1 was truly "without additional qualifications".<br />None said they actually had PM'ed Chad in support, but I'll give that the benefit of the doubt as if they did.<br /><br />So, as of now, I'll go ahead and call the count 2.5 (Three actual PM's).<br /><br />The common sentiment were basically:<br />1) Chads goal is fine.<br />2) Chads execution stinks.<br /><br />Both of which, I personally agree.

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