Personal training logs

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Re: Personal training logs

Post by jackarabit » June 30th, 2016, 10:58 am

The double entries from RP and logcard are no secret and a female dog to remove manually. I put an end to it on my end by NEVER checking the bulk upload box in the utility and scanning down the list for anything resembling a dupe session. The open boxes are stll there and disappear as the world scrolls on and can still be uploaded by checking the bulk upload.
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Re: Personal training logs.

Post by T_M » June 30th, 2016, 11:40 am

hjs wrote:Still think its pretty bizar to get worked up about what others do or don,t.
Especially when a certain person alleges that he doesn't look at others' training... :roll:
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Re: Personal training logs

Post by G-dub » June 30th, 2016, 12:46 pm

"a certain person" "doth protest too much, me thinks".
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Re: Personal training logs

Post by Carl Watts » June 30th, 2016, 6:24 pm

jackarabit wrote:ErgData provides a training synopsis at hand in an instant for log or forum posting and the stroke count is accurate. Breaking a light beam with your seat also works, right Carl?
Yes just put the box of tricks next to the slide last night so I'm also putting the info into the comments in the RowPro logbook, these comments also get uploaded to the C2 logbook.

My training is hardly interesting but if it helps anyone else that wants to take a look, thats fine by me. I did however mention to Concept 2 their should be a name search on the annual meters board so not only is it easier to find yourself you can find others without scrolling thorough pages and pages to find them. Quite frustrating as there are so many more improvements that could be made to the LogBook as well, I'm used to be able to solve all problems myself but here you have to rely on others.

660 stokes for the 36 miniute last night so thats 18.3spm and it was a UT1 row.

Have been pushing Digital Rowing to include a stroke counter, I expect it to appear in V5 and I can retire the electronics in a shoebox, the sweat is causing the cardboard to disintegrate ! :lol:

If I knew I was going to be running it this long, it would have been in an IP67 plastic box.
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Re: Personal training logs

Post by Carl Watts » June 30th, 2016, 6:40 pm

remisture wrote:Seems like Digital Rowing needs to step their game up (again). The Logbook API has built-in logic for stripping duplicates, but I guess they are messing up the timezone or something.
Note: the Logbook filters for duplicate workouts, so will return a Duplicate Entry error if you post a workout which has the same date, time and distance as an existing workout.
Erdata looks good with the HR and the stroke information as well, no reason why RowPro cannot do the same over time and then you really don't need to add the manual comments, which again are open to errors. All RowPro uploads show as verified however which is the main thing. Some people are sensitive to heartrates being listed, RowPro still has not activated the function where you can see everyones HR live on screen during the Online rowing, currently if you tick the checkbox it only shows yours and only you can see it
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Re: Personal training logs

Post by Carl Watts » June 30th, 2016, 7:29 pm

Just changed my signature so it now includes a direct link to the Concept 2 Logbook.
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Re: Personal training log

Post by jackarabit » June 30th, 2016, 8:35 pm

Wondrous strange! I looked at your public log, Carl. No question you're hitting that 2:08 average pace. But your Rowpro sourced sessions aren't listed as verified. What's up with that? Looks to me like that's been the situation back to 2009. Every mother's son gets auto-verification from RP export to the utility. Why wouldn't you? You''ve got the toys and the technical expertise. What the heck is going on?
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Re: Personal training log

Post by Carl Watts » June 30th, 2016, 11:02 pm

jackarabit wrote:Wondrous strange! I looked at your public log, Carl. No question you're hitting that 2:08 average pace. But your Rowpro sourced sessions aren't listed as verified. What's up with that? Looks to me like that's been the situation back to 2009. Every mother's son gets auto-verification from RP export to the utility. Why wouldn't you? You''ve got the toys and the technical expertise. What the heck is going on?

Yes thats funny because I'm sure I checked this a week or so ago and the verified bit said YES, so somethings changed. Still the "Entered" is RowPro so this is verified anyway. Have tried to get Concept 2 to dump the weight column and put the "Entered" into the main page instead, that way you can simply check at a glance if its verified or not anyway from the source of the entry

Yes have dropped the Cool Downs at 2:15 pace so the average has picked up of late, should be dipping below 2:04.0 very soon.
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Re: Personal training logs

Post by Carl Watts » July 1st, 2016, 7:17 pm

jackarabit wrote:The double entries from RP and logcard are no secret and a female dog to remove manually. I put an end to it on my end by NEVER checking the bulk upload box in the utility and scanning down the list for anything resembling a dupe session. The open boxes are stll there and disappear as the world scrolls on and can still be uploaded by checking the bulk upload.

Okay well I realised the problem that probably sorts this issue out.

In the RowPro USER SETTINGS you need to tick the checkbox that says "save the strokes by default (except just rows)"

The issue is, without this your not uploading the stroke data, probably not the time stamp and other things so not only can you have duplicates AND your rows are NOT VERIFIED as a result.

I just did a 2000m test row today with the stokes turned back on and its fixed. These were turned off back in January to make the uploads faster, which they are but it causes all sorts of other problems.

Mentioned to RP that they may want to includes some notes on the effect of not having the box ticked by default when you go to uncheck it.
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Re: Personal training logs

Post by jackarabit » July 1st, 2016, 9:20 pm

I don't see the connection between duplicate log entries and your discover of what is, among other things, apparently a universal verification toggle in RP--namely the presence or absence of a checked "save stroke data" box. I keep the box checked all the time.

The origin of duplicate entries for me was having the logcard in the monitor while doing a piece set on RP, exporting to the log book from RP and later uploading the same workout from logcard. ErgData avoids the potential for duplicate entries in the logbook by refusing to "store workout" with a card in the monitor.
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