Dwyane Adams - Fake Or Real?

[[old] Chad Williams]

I have posted much more against his claims than the rest of the defenders have posted for them.<br /><br />It is up to Dwayne, C2 and the media to back up Dwayne’s claims, none of this has happened?<br /><br />I can wait.<br />

[[old] johnnybike]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 10:04 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 10:04 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />I can wait. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Excellent, perhaps you can wait quietly and let this matter drop. 32 posts on one thread in a couple of days is pretty excessive. Dwayne has probably done another 100K meters in that time

[[old] Chad Williams]

With respect, if this matter does not interest you then don’t comment on the issue.

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 07:04 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 07:04 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have posted much more against his claims than the rest of the defenders have posted for them.<br /><br />It is up to Dwayne, C2 and the media to back up Dwayne’s claims, none of this has happened?<br /><br />I can wait. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Do you have a close relative in California? This is all sounding very Ruppish.<br /><br />This "bothers you" and you are "complaining" about it, all under the guise of "free speech". All while apparently not wanting others to employ their free speech.<br /><br />You are definitely proving something, though I doubt it's what you had in mind.<br />

[[old] Dickie]

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 17 2006, 11:43 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 17 2006, 11:43 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 07:04 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 07:04 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I have posted much more against his claims than the rest of the defenders have posted for them.<br /><br />It is up to Dwayne, C2 and the media to back up Dwayne’s claims, none of this has happened?<br /><br />I can wait. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Do you have a close relative in California? This is all sounding very Ruppish.<br /><br />This "bothers you" and you are "complaining" about it, all under the guise of "free speech". All while apparently not wanting others to employ their free speech.<br /><br />You are definitely proving something, though I doubt it's what you had in mind. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I was having the very same thought just now, could this be JR in disguise or could Mr Rupp have a twin.

[[old] Chad Williams]

Why you feel the need for cheap shots is beyond me. All I have asked for is proof of the times Dwayne claims he has pulled, what is so wrong with that? Why make such a big issue out of something that can be dealt with so easily?<br /><br />No one has been able to provide this, so instead you try to tarnish my character, and you are using attack as the best form of defence. It is you that is proving something about yourself.<br />

[[old] seat5]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 03:51 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 03:51 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why you feel the need for cheap shots is beyond me. All I have asked for is proof of the times Dwayne claims he has pulled, what is so wrong with that? Why make such a big issue out of something that can be dealt with so easily?<br /><br />No one has been able to provide this, so instead you try to tarnish my character, and you are using attack as the best form of defence. It is you that is proving something about yourself. <br /> </td></tr></table><br />You're the one who is making the greatest effort to tarnish someone's character.<br /><br />Question for you:<br />Do you believe the times he has posted that are marked IND_V?<br /><br />If the answer is no, you are absolutely hopeless.<br /><br />I have to say, in the 3 years or so I have been rowing, I have never disbelieved anyone's time (unless it was an obvious typo, like someone posting 1 second for a 1K or something idiotic like that). I've never felt that just because someone had posted some fantastic achievements that I could never do that it wasn't possible that they actually did them. And now that there is the IND_V deal, can't you believe the other times that Dwayne has posted that aren't verified, based on his great verified or witnessed times? He'll get around to posting verified times in all the events probably before the season is over. But I don't suppose you'll be satisfied then, either--you'll probably imagine that he's figured out some way to hack the system.<br /><br /><br />

[[old] Ducatista]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 09:36 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 09:36 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->With respect, if this matter does not interest you then don’t comment on the issue. </td></tr></table><br />Online fora would be awfully flat beer if everyone followed <i>that</i> rule.<br /><br />I was liking this thread, until I got that stupid Animotion song "You're My Obsession" stuck in my head. Thanks for nothing.

[[old] Daren C]

<!--QuoteBegin-Ducatista+Jan 17 2006, 04:57 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Ducatista @ Jan 17 2006, 04:57 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I was liking this thread, until I got that stupid Animotion song "You're My Obsession" stuck in my head. Thanks for nothing.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Now <i>there's</i> a blast from the past. Must have been the mid-80s. Extra points for remembering the name of the group - I wouldn't have.<br />

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 07:51 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 07:51 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why you feel the need for cheap shots is beyond me. All I have asked for is proof of the times Dwayne claims he has pulled, what is so wrong with that? Why make such a big issue out of something that can be dealt with so easily?<br /><br />No one has been able to provide this, so instead you try to tarnish my character, and you are using attack as the best form of defence. It is you that is proving something about yourself. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Do you mean me? I was just asking a question, and apparently I'm not alone in wondering.<br /><br />How can it be "dealt with so easily"? You have already said that you don't believe the IND_v (which impunes, c2billp, wtinesses, and the gym owner along with Dwayne).<br /><br />I've been here long enough that most have an idea what I'm about, so accusing me of attacking you is pretty silly, when that's not the case at all.<br /><br />How about this question: If Dwayne were faking times, why just be the best 40 year old, why not be the fastest across all age groups?<br /><br />One possible answer: Then he'd have to deal with even more detractors like yourself, h*** this could lead a guy to go black on his performances altogether.<br /><br />BTW - My vote in your poll was "Don't Care" (because it simply doesn't matter), but I do not believe Dwayne would report a time that was not genuine.<br /><br />Why is it that this causes you such personal grief?

[[old] FrancoisA]

<!--QuoteBegin-kinley+Jan 17 2006, 02:59 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(kinley @ Jan 17 2006, 02:59 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I found the First Impressions on the Slides thread insufferable and uninformative. Therefore, I picked up the phone and ordered a pair so I could see for myself (they should arrive today  ).<br /><br />Since the Dwayne Adams conundrum can't be solved with a credit card, I suggest you all drop the matter and get back to your workouts.<br /><br /> >>>-------> Kinley <br /> </td></tr></table><br />Hi Kinley,<br /><br />You are right, the First Impression on the Slides thread is insufferable if not insupportable! Whenever JR is involved, things turn ugly! Now it seems that he has a soul mate in the name of Chad!<br /><br />Please, let us know what you think of your slides. I am just about ordering a pair.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Francois<br />

[[old] Chad Williams]

I have not at anytime said that Dwayne is faking times; I am saying that he has not had any proof to back his times up. Please do not put word in my mouth.<br /><br />Carla, I answered the question about IND_V but I will clarify it for you. If the IND_V was entered using a PM3 then I would except that, however Dwayne admitted that it was not, I then have to make the assumption that the other IND_V against some of Dwayne’s times were also gained without a PM3 code.<br /><br />C2Bill will no doubt be able to confirm the use of a PM3 IND_V. So soon as that is done I will have my proof.<br /><br />I am waiting.<br />

[[old] Hal Morgan]

Perhaps the bottom line is this, C2 Log and ranking is an Honor System. <br />

[[old] Chad Williams]

I have just asked the following question to c2bill on a separate thread-<br /><br /><i>I have a simple question for you C2Bill.<br /><br />Has Dwayne Adams ever logged a IND_V ranking piece using the PM3 verification method? (17 digit number I believe)<br /><br />I am not asking about gym members/owners and friends, just PM3 code entry.<br /><br />Thank you</i><br /><br />The reply I received was-<br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin-c2bill+Jan 17 2006, 01:57 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(c2bill @ Jan 17 2006, 01:57 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->dwayne and the other members of the USIRDS were provided with PM3's to use for rowing verified pieces for their 2k qualifying times. To the best of my knowledge dwayne has not used the PM3 to enter any verified rows since being provided with one. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><b>Still waiting!!</b>

[[old] PaulS]

I've just set a new record. <br /><br />I've added a user to my ignore list after less than two days of their emergence. In fact it's the only user I've ever decided to ignore. Amazing!<br /><br />I also just realized that their stuff still shows up when others quote them, which is too bad. But I suppose it's useful to see if you are being personally attacked and would otherwise not be aware that there might be a need for defense.<br />