Dwyane Adams - Fake Or Real?

[[old] hjs]

<!--QuoteBegin-Daren C+Jan 17 2006, 10:12 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Daren C @ Jan 17 2006, 10:12 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 08:57 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 08:57 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I see Dwayne has visited this thread, but has avoided answering any my questions. Is this because he feels he has nothing to answer? or that he does not want to incriminate himself? </td></tr></table><br /><br />I reckon it's the third option; that you're not worth it. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />Impressive posting, this is what we need. let's start bashing eachother.

[[old] ancho]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 10:14 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 10:14 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I did a search for a number of rowers who claim they have rowed under 5.50 for a 2000m.<br /><br />Pavel Shurmei, George Bridgewater, Graham Benton, Jamie Schroeder & Dwayne Adams.<br /><br />I found written documentation confirming these claims for 4 out of these 5 rowers. Only one of them came up with nothing. Nothing as in No Proof, no INV_D, nothing!!<br /><br />Do you know which one it was? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Maybe he hasn't replied 'cause he don't cares?<br />What's the point? Having you believing him?<br />As far as I know, Dwayne doesn't get any profit from erging, this is: he does it FOR FUN (as most of us, even if it seems difficult to believe , and in another league...). <br />So he is free to post his PBs as I am to post mine, and you are free to believe him, as you are free to believe me. My PBs may be as fake as DA's. <br />Does he have to do anything different from what he does, just because he is better??<br />What would be the point of cheating the forum?? <br /><br />Good conclusion of this post is that I have more things in common with Big D than I thought! <br /><br />And to all who have had the time to read/post in this thread: ROW HARDER!!

[[old] ancho]

Chad: You claim to be "reasonably fit"...<br />Where are the proofs??? <br /><br />Pls post your PB's!!

[[old] Chad Williams]

<!--QuoteBegin-ancho+Jan 17 2006, 04:58 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ancho @ Jan 17 2006, 04:58 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->What's the point? </td></tr></table><br /><br />The point is that it bothers me, that is why I started this thread.<br />If it does not bother you or anyone else then you can cast your vote or not as the case may be, and leave this thread.<br /><br />I do have a problem with it all. Humour me for a second here. Dwayne has travelled to Europe on 2 separate occasions as part of the USIRT. In both the races he took part in, he (a) finished one in a time of over 7.20, stating that he had pulled his back out. (b ) Did not even start the Euro Champs race as he slipped over and hurt him self just before the start. This guy must be the unluckiest erger ever.<br />What excuses does he give for not finishing other public races, yes, more DNF do exist.<br /><br />All Dwayne has to do is row at a race and all the doubters including me will have to shut up. Someone with his times who has never won a single public erging race, no medals, no titles, very strange don’t you think? Yet, when it comes to non verification on-line challenges he is the best of the best.<br /><br />I am not calling him a liar, I am asking him to produce some evidence of his rows. If other people can do it why cant he?<br />

[[old] Chad Williams]

<!--QuoteBegin-ancho+Jan 17 2006, 05:05 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ancho @ Jan 17 2006, 05:05 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Pls post your PB's!! </td></tr></table><br /><br />We are not here to talk about my PB’s. That is not the subject of this topic.<br />

[[old] ancho]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 11:39 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 11:39 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If other people can do it why cant he? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Because he doesn't want to

[[old] Chad Williams]

<!--QuoteBegin-ancho+Jan 17 2006, 05:42 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ancho @ Jan 17 2006, 05:42 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 11:39 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 11:39 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If other people can do it why cant he? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Because he doesn't want to <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Why can he not speak for himself? Are you is appointed spokes person?

[[old] Chad Williams]

<!--QuoteBegin-ancho+Jan 17 2006, 05:42 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ancho @ Jan 17 2006, 05:42 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 11:39 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 11:39 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->If other people can do it why cant he? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Because he doesn't want to <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />You guys are struggling to defend Dwayne now; all you come back with is “because he does not want to”<br /><br />I am longing to be proved wrong, so prove me wrong.<br />

[[old] j.d]

The vote seems evenly split at the moment!!<br /><br />jd

[[old] ancho]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 11:54 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 11:54 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />You guys are struggling to defend Dwayne now; all you come back with is “because he does not want to”<br /><br />I am longing to be proved wrong, so prove me wrong. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I am not struggling to defend anyone, I just struggle with my 2k! <br />Dwayne is big (D) enough to defend himself. <br />And: I still just don't see the need of proving something I don't want to prove...<br />As you have mentioned before, this is a free forum, as free are the rankings. This is one of its incentives, and I think the key of its success. So there may be fakes. But I prefer the risk of having fake rankings (what's the point??) than being forced to prove something I do in my spare time and JUST FOR FUN!<br /><br />BTW, of course I would love to see Dwayne race! (again only if he wants to!)<br />

[[old] Daren C]

Dwayne has finished at least two public races, albeit no 2k ergo races. The heats & Semi-Finals in a double at the 2005 World Masters Games in Edmonton (M 2X D; event 306). From the finishing times (4:05, 4:17) I assume it was a 1k race. Since it was on the water and the other guy in the boat was 61 years old, however, I don't think any conclusions can be drawn other than he <i>has</i> finished public races.

[[old] Chad Williams]

So, we can find him finishing water races, that is good news, it is a shame that he seems to have never made any claims to breaking any world records on the water, so Daren, that last post was not much help in his defiance.<br /><br />Please find me something with regards to his erging times; this has always been my argument.<br />

[[old] ancho]

<!--QuoteBegin-ancho+Jan 17 2006, 11:05 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ancho @ Jan 17 2006, 11:05 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Chad: You claim to be "reasonably fit"...<br />Where are the proofs??? <br />... <br /> </td></tr></table><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 11:41 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 11:41 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-ancho+Jan 17 2006, 05:05 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(ancho @ Jan 17 2006, 05:05 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Pls post your PB's!! </td></tr></table><br />We are not here to talk about my PB’s. That is not the subject of this topic. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />We are here to talk about pretending to make someone prove something he obviously has no interest in proving.<br />The subject of this topic has turned into: Why do we have to proof the things we do in our spare time?<br /><br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 11:48 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 11:48 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><br />Why can he not speak for himself? Are you is appointed spokes person? <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />I am only (and the only) appointed sppokes person for myself. But IMHO the answer is quite obvious (If he'd wanted to answer, he would have done it, I suppose)<br /><br />And of course: You are free to ask, but others are free to answer or not.<br />

[[old] Chad Williams]

I am not posting and making claims of World fastest times. I am not putting myself on top of every on-line virtual league, therefore I have nothing to answer too.<br /><br />Yet again, you are trying to turn the discussion away from Dwayne.<br /><br /><br /><br />

[[old] hjs]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 17 2006, 01:01 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 17 2006, 01:01 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I am not posting and making claims of World fastest times. I am not putting myself on top of every on-line virtual league, therefore I have nothing to answer too.<br /><br />Yet again, you are trying to turn the discussion away from Dwayne. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />he chad.<br /><br />Maybe you should do that. Putting yourself on top off the lists. maybe that would get c2 off there butts