Dwyane Adams - Fake Or Real?

[[old] Daren C]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 16 2006, 03:11 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 16 2006, 03:11 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Why does he not row at the CRASH B’s? Why does he not row using rowing internet software, this can be used as proof.  None of you can answer these questions.<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Why should be row using e-Row or RowPro? Maybe, get this, he just doesn't want to. Surely there are things in your life that you simply choose not to do.<br /><br />Maybe he's happy in himself that those that matter to him believe him, and those that don't believe him, don't matter enough to worry about placating. <br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 16 2006, 03:11 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 16 2006, 03:11 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Looking at the split data from BIRC when he rowed as part of the USIRT, someone said that he hurt his back sometime after 500m, he was not even rowing at sub 6 minute pace for the first 500m of that race, when you look at his splits for his sub 5.50 his first split was his fastest, around 1:23 I believe.<br /><br />I will get a graph to prove my point, a graph from the race data at BIRC<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Where's the race data? I just had a look at the C2 UK site for the 2002 BIRC results from the M35-39 race, and although Dwayne's listed there (7:24.9), there's no link to race data, and no 2002 replays available. Is it on a different site?<br /><br /><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+Jan 16 2006, 03:11 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Jan 16 2006, 03:11 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I can give you evidence to back my arguments<br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />You can attempt to cite lack of evidence for Dwayne's times (although IND_V listings would seem to fly in the face of such claims), but you cannot show evidence that they are not veracious.<br /><br />

[[old] Daren C]

<!--QuoteBegin-NavigationHazard+Jan 16 2006, 02:04 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(NavigationHazard @ Jan 16 2006, 02:04 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You are correct that it was possible circa May to get an IND_V by doing a witnessed piece on a public machine.<br /><br />Maybe C2Bill can correct me, if he reads this, but I'm under the impression that it is no longer possible.  Since its introduction, the firmware supplies the verification. </td></tr></table><br /><br />I would have thought that the former should still be possible, as not all machines have a PM3 in the first place, and of those that do, not all will be updated with the most recent firmware. Unless C2 were to say "only times rowed on a Model D with a PM3 running the latest firmware", surely they would have to continue to accept witness statements regarding authenticity.<br />

[[old] Kappy]

<!--QuoteBegin-Mark Keating+Jan 16 2006, 09:51 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Mark Keating @ Jan 16 2006, 09:51 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-johnnybike+Jan 16 2006, 09:37 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(johnnybike @ Jan 16 2006, 09:37 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->PPS Someone else has already asked what mwa means and I did not fully understand the answer. Is it an mnenomic for something? <br /> </td></tr></table><br />My guess is that mwa = my words <i>a</i>xactly<br /><br />or perhaps mwa = my, what an arse <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Wow.<br /><br />I always thought the 'proper' spelling was "mwuaah" and that it was meant to be like a big fake over affectionate air kiss. See. Say it. It sort of sounds like a big fake kiss noise.<br /><br />And I think it sort of means "yeah - love ya later." But in a positive way. You know - like there are so many ironies involved "its a fake kiss, I'm pretending to like you but wouldn't get within three feet of you - but I am exaggerating it so much because you know that and since you know that and I know that you know the fakeness of the affectionate gesture is in itself not really quite the insult that it would be if there was no irony involved kind of an air kiss."<br /><br />Of course the more spartan version 'mwa' probably means something totally different. Its not like this in the environment where you'd expect people to be whipping out their Will & Grace witticisms to amuse the class.<br /><br />"Meddling With Acronyms" perhaps?<br /><br />That's just my thought on the issue. No big whup. Don't mean to be bothering anyone.<br /><br />Sorry I posted.<br /><br />Nevermind.<br /><br />Kappy

[[old] Ducatista]

<!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Yes, I registered to make this point, it is my right to free speech as an American. </td></tr></table><br />Ick. You really want to play that boorish card now, when we Americans are selling our freedoms down the river at an unprecedented rate? Tacky under any circs, but especially so on a multinational board like this.<br /><br />And if you're inclined to get huffy at that, remember: <br /><!--QuoteBegin-Chad Williams+--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Chad Williams)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->You have expressed your view; other people will do the same, that’s how it works. </td></tr></table>

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-Porkchop+Jan 16 2006, 07:08 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Porkchop @ Jan 16 2006, 07:08 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I don't know Dwayne Adams, and don't particularly care about his times, but, having observed this forum for a considerable period of time, it is clear that  he enjoys a great deal of credibility with forum members, including those who row very well and have every reason to care about his times from a competitive standpoint.  (See PaulS's post above.) </td></tr></table><br /><br />Ouch! <br /><br />There's nothing like immediately shooting your credibility in the foot.

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 16 2006, 07:36 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 16 2006, 07:36 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->His times are in the range of what I saw a lot of back in University. </td></tr></table><br /><br />

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-johnnybike+Jan 16 2006, 09:37 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(johnnybike @ Jan 16 2006, 09:37 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->PPS Someone else has already asked what mwa means and I did not fully understand the answer. Is it an mnenomic for something? </td></tr></table><br /><!--QuoteBegin-Kappy+Jan 16 2006, 08:28 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Kappy @ Jan 16 2006, 08:28 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I always thought the 'proper' spelling was "mwuaah" and that it was meant to be like a big fake over affectionate air kiss.  See.  Say it.  It sort of sounds like a big fake kiss noise.<br /><br />And I think it sort of means "yeah - love ya later."  But in a positive way.  You know - like there are so many ironies involved "its a fake kiss, I'm pretending to like you but wouldn't get within three feet of you - but I am exaggerating it so much because you know that and since you know that and I know that you know the fakeness of the affectionate gesture is in itself not really quite the insult that it would be if there was no irony involved kind of an air kiss." </td></tr></table><br /><br />That was my interpretation of it too.<br />

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Jan 16 2006, 08:49 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 16 2006, 08:49 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 16 2006, 07:36 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 16 2006, 07:36 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->His times are in the range of what I saw a lot of back in University. </td></tr></table><br /><br /> <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />John,<br /><br />Do you have a point, other than at the top of your head?<br /><br />Yes, I know I should just ignore you, but it's so fun to watch you bounce around like a ping pong ball, then crack like an egg. <br />

[[old] John Rupp]

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 16 2006, 07:36 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 16 2006, 07:36 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->His times are in the range of what I saw a lot of back in University. </td></tr></table><br />I'm still laughing!

[[old] Spectre]

Whatever! From all I have seen and read, Dwyane is a good guy and true sportsman. There always seems to be a few doubters whenever anyone breaks records or logs an outstanding performance in any sport. The fact that C2 will verify his results is good enough...after all this is their bloody web site. The best I can say is, as a long time rower you must have heard this before ...."Eyes in your own boat!"

[[old] PaulS]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Jan 16 2006, 09:07 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 16 2006, 09:07 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 16 2006, 07:36 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 16 2006, 07:36 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->His times are in the range of what I saw a lot of back in University. </td></tr></table><br />I'm still laughing! <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br />Uncontrollable laughing at things that are not funny is a symptom of mental illness.<br /><br />As suggested previously, seek help.<br /><br />Sincerely John, I'm concerned for your continued well being. There has been a steady decline in your reasoning and demeanor over the last several years. I'd thought it was a put on by you, but it's becoming more apparent that it could be much more serious.<br /><br />It's just not funny anymore.

[[old] hjs]

mwa what does it mean ? It's dutch and doesn,t mean anything precise in dutch but when you use it, it means you don't agree or disageer excacly. your in doubt.

[[old] hjs]

<!--QuoteBegin-John Rupp+Jan 16 2006, 05:51 PM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(John Rupp @ Jan 16 2006, 05:51 PM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin--><!--QuoteBegin-johnnybike+Jan 16 2006, 09:37 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(johnnybike @ Jan 16 2006, 09:37 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->PPS Someone else has already asked what mwa means and I did not fully understand the answer. Is it an mnenomic for something? </td></tr></table><br /><!--QuoteBegin-Kappy+Jan 16 2006, 08:28 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(Kappy @ Jan 16 2006, 08:28 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I always thought the 'proper' spelling was "mwuaah" and that it was meant to be like a big fake over affectionate air kiss.  See.  Say it.  It sort of sounds like a big fake kiss noise.<br /><br />And I think it sort of means "yeah - love ya later."  But in a positive way.  You know - like there are so many ironies involved "its a fake kiss, I'm pretending to like you but wouldn't get within three feet of you - but I am exaggerating it so much because you know that and since you know that and I know that you know the fakeness of the affectionate gesture is in itself not really quite the insult that it would be if there was no irony involved kind of an air kiss." </td></tr></table><br /><br />That was my interpretation of it too. <br /> </td></tr></table><br /><br /><br />This is the Yankee mening I presume <br />

[[old] Chad Williams]

Ok, so you guys still want to go off at tangents to get off the subject, that’s cool, but it won’t sway me.<br /><br />I have just run the mile in 3:50.1. Anyone believe me? I have no proof; you will just have to take my word for it. I just called the IAAF and told them, they said cool, we take your word for it. Well if C2 can do it why can’t the IAAF.<br /><br />Maybe I am going to fast for you guys, let’s slow it down a notch.<br /><br />Q. Has anyone on this forum seen Dwayne rowing on an Erg…………….ever?<br />

[[old] Chad Williams]

<!--QuoteBegin-PaulS+Jan 16 2006, 10:36 AM--><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'><b>QUOTE(PaulS @ Jan 16 2006, 10:36 AM)</b></div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><!--QuoteEBegin-->Again, what are you going to consider adequate proof for Chad? </td></tr></table><br /><br />A video clip of him rowing, him at a race, some split/stroke data, somebody confirming his rows of some notoriety, someone like a rowing coach.<br /><br />Lets her it from the coaching guys at C2, when he was on the USIRT they must know what he did, why won't they speak up?<br /><br />Is it Areas 51, does it exist?