LUNA-TICS TEAM ROOM: Year-round "Looney" fun.
Re: LUNA-TICS TEAM ROOM: Year-round "Looney" fun.
About drag factor, I had to follow up on that Rob Waddell story. I had read that story before that he set the WR with a really low DF, and I quoted 99, because I found a reference to that in two articles at the time I was posting. But I don't believe 99. Usually, you think of the 100 being the drag factor with the damper set at 1, so 99 or 100 would be the lowest possible setting. I suppose the drag factor could go lower with a lot of dust inside the fan, but that wouldn't have been true with a machine at the CRASH-B, That 99 value seems wrong to me. I just saw a better post that said his damper setting was at 3.5, and average stroke rate was 33.5. That sounds believable, but that doesn't seem to quite square with this urban legend about a really low drag factor.
And I also saw a corroborating reference to http://books.google.com/books?id=okcEAA ... ng&f=false.
Regardless of the merits of that drag factor story, the only point I was trying to make when I referenced that story was that one shouldn't directly associate a high drag factor with a high effort (in this case, a World Record effort).
And I also saw a corroborating reference to http://books.google.com/books?id=okcEAA ... ng&f=false.
Regardless of the merits of that drag factor story, the only point I was trying to make when I referenced that story was that one shouldn't directly associate a high drag factor with a high effort (in this case, a World Record effort).
All In A Day's ERG: Team Progress Thru 3.27.16
28 Lunies stayin' alive...just FOUR more days to get your 25 Challenge days.....
Rate of vaporization slowing waaaaay down ...kind of like a slow leak with 37 more floating away, about a 3 percent loss...sadly including one Lunie.
Lucky 7.....
1 Age Without Limits Virtual 9,834,139m 158 62,241m
2 Free Spirits Virtual 9,373,876m 122 76,835m
3 FRENCH INDOOR ROWERS TEAM Virtual 8,548,559m 162 52,769m
4 Community Fitness Pointe of Munster, In. Health/Fitness 8,246,484m 321 25,690m
5 Overcoming disAbilities Virtual 6,302,460m 18 350,137m
6 Greenville Indoor Rowing Health/Fitness 6,213,254m 168 36,984m
7 LUNA-TICS Virtual 5,308,642m 77 68,943m
MILESTONES...Bragging Rights...Celebrations:
9.55 MM Richard T
8.85 MM Ed
5.9 MM Ron
3.65 MM Thor
900 K Salvador
Thanks, everyone, for rowing and ski-erging with us!
NW 2,000 m
Adian 2,467 m
Steve W 2,500 m
Jeff M 3,004 m
K2 5,000 m
Peter G 5,000 m
Jay R 5,031 m
Patrick 5,103 m
Dan O' 5,566 m ...a double double!
Jim M 5,734 m
Noel 6,039 m
Minnie 9,009 m ...a niner aught niner palindrome!
James S 10,000 m
Ken 10,000 m
Larry 10,090 m
AJ 10,127 m
Heather 11,052 m ...numbers are climbing!
Thor 11,232 m
Howard 11,275 m
danwho 12,021 m ...a palindrome!
Peter T 13,181 m
Chris W 13,253 m
Tombeur 14,514 m
Ron 21,112 m ...a onesie twosie palindrome!
David A 22,177 m
Salvador 28,265 m
Ed 33,333 m ...a repeater palindrome!
Richard T 55,929 m
Rate of vaporization slowing waaaaay down ...kind of like a slow leak with 37 more floating away, about a 3 percent loss...sadly including one Lunie.
Lucky 7.....
1 Age Without Limits Virtual 9,834,139m 158 62,241m
2 Free Spirits Virtual 9,373,876m 122 76,835m
3 FRENCH INDOOR ROWERS TEAM Virtual 8,548,559m 162 52,769m
4 Community Fitness Pointe of Munster, In. Health/Fitness 8,246,484m 321 25,690m
5 Overcoming disAbilities Virtual 6,302,460m 18 350,137m
6 Greenville Indoor Rowing Health/Fitness 6,213,254m 168 36,984m
7 LUNA-TICS Virtual 5,308,642m 77 68,943m
MILESTONES...Bragging Rights...Celebrations:
9.55 MM Richard T
8.85 MM Ed
5.9 MM Ron
3.65 MM Thor
900 K Salvador
Thanks, everyone, for rowing and ski-erging with us!
NW 2,000 m
Adian 2,467 m
Steve W 2,500 m
Jeff M 3,004 m
K2 5,000 m
Peter G 5,000 m
Jay R 5,031 m
Patrick 5,103 m
Dan O' 5,566 m ...a double double!
Jim M 5,734 m
Noel 6,039 m
Minnie 9,009 m ...a niner aught niner palindrome!
James S 10,000 m
Ken 10,000 m
Larry 10,090 m
AJ 10,127 m
Heather 11,052 m ...numbers are climbing!
Thor 11,232 m
Howard 11,275 m
danwho 12,021 m ...a palindrome!
Peter T 13,181 m
Chris W 13,253 m
Tombeur 14,514 m
Ron 21,112 m ...a onesie twosie palindrome!
David A 22,177 m
Salvador 28,265 m
Ed 33,333 m ...a repeater palindrome!
Richard T 55,929 m
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Re: LUNA-TICS TEAM ROOM: Year-round "Looney" fun.
I appreciate the extra into, danwho. Every bit of info helps. I found the link that Thor gave a couple pages back (https://board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=5310) very valuable. It gave damper and drag factor suggestions based on the rowers weight category, and also showed how to find the drag factor reading for the machine you are using as dust etc can make a damper setting of 4 much different between various machines. I'm weighing 164lbs at the moment, and set my damper to 4.5 giving me a drag factor of just under 125. After a couple of rows getting used to it (I had it set at 3.5 before) it feels perfect. Now I'm able to get my heart rate up into the cardio zone during my long distance normal pulls, and into the 80-90% max heart rate range during the "big one" bursts. Shaved 6 minutes off my previous 1/2 marathon time this morning as well. So a big THANK YOU for helpful team mates and shared knowledge. I'd buy a round of (protein) drinks for all if I could.danwho wrote:About drag factor, I had to follow up on that Rob Waddell story. I had read that story before that he set the WR with a really low DF, and I quoted 99, because I found a reference to that in two articles at the time I was posting. But I don't believe 99. Usually, you think of the 100 being the drag factor with the damper set at 1, so 99 or 100 would be the lowest possible setting. I suppose the drag factor could go lower with a lot of dust inside the fan, but that wouldn't have been true with a machine at the CRASH-B, That 99 value seems wrong to me. I just saw a better post that said his damper setting was at 3.5, and average stroke rate was 33.5. That sounds believable, but that doesn't seem to quite square with this urban legend about a really low drag factor.
And I also saw a corroborating reference to http://books.google.com/books?id=okcEAA ... ng&f=false.
Regardless of the merits of that drag factor story, the only point I was trying to make when I referenced that story was that one shouldn't directly associate a high drag factor with a high effort (in this case, a World Record effort).
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Wow--good for you!! Protein drinks? Humph!Navelgarden wrote:Now I'm able to get my heart rate up into the cardio zone during my long distance normal pulls, and into the 80-90% max heart rate range during the "big one" bursts. Shaved 6 minutes off my previous 1/2 marathon time this morning as well. So a big THANK YOU for helpful team mates and shared knowledge. I'd buy a round of (protein) drinks for all if I could.
Re: LUNA-TICS TEAM ROOM: Year-round "Looney" fun.
Eloquently stated, Shaun & Co.! I'll see your Humph, and raise you a glass of Chardonnay. Though, I do have recipes for a couple of excellent Gatorade-type energy drinks for those long-haul rows, if anyone's interested. It's been a while since I've needed them ...normadelaney wrote:Wow--good for you!! Protein drinks? Humph!Navelgarden wrote: ... I'd buy a round of (protein) drinks for all if I could.
Re: LUNA-TICS TEAM ROOM: Year-round "Looney" fun.
Shaved 6 minutes? Shaved? I'd say you smash 6 minutes off your half moon. I can now see where my hammer went. Very nice job.Navelgarden wrote:I appreciate the extra into, danwho. Every bit of info helps. I found the link that Thor gave a couple pages back (https://board.crossfit.com/showthread.php?t=5310) very valuable. It gave damper and drag factor suggestions based on the rowers weight category, and also showed how to find the drag factor reading for the machine you are using as dust etc can make a damper setting of 4 much different between various machines. I'm weighing 164lbs at the moment, and set my damper to 4.5 giving me a drag factor of just under 125. After a couple of rows getting used to it (I had it set at 3.5 before) it feels perfect. Now I'm able to get my heart rate up into the cardio zone during my long distance normal pulls, and into the 80-90% max heart rate range during the "big one" bursts. Shaved 6 minutes off my previous 1/2 marathon time this morning as well. So a big THANK YOU for helpful team mates and shared knowledge. I'd buy a round of (protein) drinks for all if I could.danwho wrote:About drag factor, I had to follow up on that Rob Waddell story. I had read that story before that he set the WR with a really low DF, and I quoted 99, because I found a reference to that in two articles at the time I was posting. But I don't believe 99. Usually, you think of the 100 being the drag factor with the damper set at 1, so 99 or 100 would be the lowest possible setting. I suppose the drag factor could go lower with a lot of dust inside the fan, but that wouldn't have been true with a machine at the CRASH-B, That 99 value seems wrong to me. I just saw a better post that said his damper setting was at 3.5, and average stroke rate was 33.5. That sounds believable, but that doesn't seem to quite square with this urban legend about a really low drag factor.
And I also saw a corroborating reference to http://books.google.com/books?id=okcEAA ... ng&f=false.
Regardless of the merits of that drag factor story, the only point I was trying to make when I referenced that story was that one shouldn't directly associate a high drag factor with a high effort (in this case, a World Record effort).
I don't understand why but I really like the drag factor set to 150 or so. That is 7 on my machine. My cardio is improving but I still have a long way to go. When my HR gets in to the 165 to 167 range I start to gasp some and I hate that feeling of there not being enough air in the room to breathe. Over 167 and I start to get scared.
Question for anyone who cares to answer it. When I do a big piece and I really worked hard, I sometimes feel like my arms, legs and chest are tingling. Has anyone had this happen or have an explaination for what this is?
Rock on dudes and dudettes.
He's A Meter Millionaire !!
Whoop, whoop and way to get that million meters! Congratulations, Angelo, on achieving a ONE million meter season! We wish you many, MANY more!
He's A Meter Multi-Millionaire!
Wow! What a great year Jeff M is having! Congratulations on achieving a TWO million meter season...and attaining meter multi-millionaire status! Can't get that everywhere!
We wish you many, MANY more millions!
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Congrats to Angelo and Jeff
Oh Gooooooooooo Uconn
Oh Gooooooooooo Uconn
Re: He's A Meter Millionaire !!
Way to rockem Angelo and Jeff!!!Kona2 wrote:
Whoop, whoop and way to get that million meters! Congratulations, Angelo, on achieving a ONE million meter season! We wish you many, MANY more!
Re: LUNA-TICS TEAM ROOM: Year-round "Looney" fun.
Back to 29 Lunies staying alive! New life breathed into one ! Reminds me to put World War Z on my viewing list....and YOU GUESSED IT...more vaporizations as the space dust accumulates! A mere 21 vanished overnight - we'll see if any reappear tomorrow! Keep going going going --- I think I am going to get my 25th day with today's row...again thanks to Concept2 air shipping me the parts needed...and the West View Rec Center for being there....
Still holding at Lucky Seven!
1 FRENCH INDOOR ROWERS TEAM Virtual 10,953,744m 204 53,695m
2 Age Without Limits Virtual 10,944,389m 162 67,558m
3 Free Spirits Virtual 10,150,338m 126 80,558m
4 Community Fitness Pointe of Munster, In. Health/Fitness 8,293,439m 321 25,836m
5 Overcoming disAbilities Virtual 7,099,893m 19 373,679m
6 Greenville Indoor Rowing Health/Fitness 6,940,521m 169 41,068m
7 LUNA-TICS Virtual 5,868,377m 78 75,236m
Bikes vs Cars, a movie.
This one is a documentary about the bicycle and what an amazing tool for change it can be. We showed this film at Clancy's Irish Pub (bikes and beer go together!) last night. It's an award-winning film that was released last year - perhaps not for everyone - and it does have subtitles (after having to whisper-read Crouching Tiger to a 6 year old in a movie theater, I note these things now). It's worth the rental price on Vimeo.
And now, for a different "movie" - it's down on the farm....click on the photo...it'll draw a crowd at the dr's office or at work...it's Springtime!
The bottle-fed one is Tango, and he'll be a pet instead of livestock. His Mom wouldn't feed him, so my farm-owning friends in Oregon are bottle-feeding him.
MILESTONES...Bragging Rights...Celebrations:
9.6 MM Richard T
8.9 MM Ed
3.5 MM Tombeur
2.2 MM Doug G
2.0 MM Jeff M
1.9 MM Janice
1.45 MM K2
1.2 MM Dan O'
1.0 MM Angelo
400 K Teresa R
350 K Peter T
300 K Noel
Thanks, everyone, for rowing and ski-erging with us!
Tony 2,222 m ...a palindrome! Two wheels!
Mikkel 4,750 m
Collin 5,000 m
Heather 5,000 m
Jeff 5,000 m
William 5,000 m
Teresa R 5,016 m
K2 5,059 m
Kevin 5,074 m
Jean M 5,097 m
David T 6,000 m
Rick 6,302 m
Tom R 6,641 m
Ken G 7,000 m
Jim M 7,418 m
Jay R 8,049 m
Dan O' 8,412 m
Jeff M 9,047 m
Patrick 10,000 m
Steve W 10,000 m
Stuart 10,000 m
Terry B 10,000 m
bg 10,021 m
David A 10,152 m
Larry 10,221 m
Howard 11,151 m
Doug 12,184 m
Noel 12,199 m
Janice 14,559 m
Ron 22,222 m ...a palindrome!
Tombeur 24,157 m
Peter T 26,118 m
Thor 27,095 m
Ed 33,333 m ...a palindrome in threes!
Richard T 49,595 m
Angelo 77,227 m ...and he reaches ONE million!
Still holding at Lucky Seven!
1 FRENCH INDOOR ROWERS TEAM Virtual 10,953,744m 204 53,695m
2 Age Without Limits Virtual 10,944,389m 162 67,558m
3 Free Spirits Virtual 10,150,338m 126 80,558m
4 Community Fitness Pointe of Munster, In. Health/Fitness 8,293,439m 321 25,836m
5 Overcoming disAbilities Virtual 7,099,893m 19 373,679m
6 Greenville Indoor Rowing Health/Fitness 6,940,521m 169 41,068m
7 LUNA-TICS Virtual 5,868,377m 78 75,236m
Bikes vs Cars, a movie.
This one is a documentary about the bicycle and what an amazing tool for change it can be. We showed this film at Clancy's Irish Pub (bikes and beer go together!) last night. It's an award-winning film that was released last year - perhaps not for everyone - and it does have subtitles (after having to whisper-read Crouching Tiger to a 6 year old in a movie theater, I note these things now). It's worth the rental price on Vimeo.
And now, for a different "movie" - it's down on the farm....click on the photo...it'll draw a crowd at the dr's office or at work...it's Springtime!
The bottle-fed one is Tango, and he'll be a pet instead of livestock. His Mom wouldn't feed him, so my farm-owning friends in Oregon are bottle-feeding him.
MILESTONES...Bragging Rights...Celebrations:
9.6 MM Richard T
8.9 MM Ed
3.5 MM Tombeur
2.2 MM Doug G
2.0 MM Jeff M
1.9 MM Janice
1.45 MM K2
1.2 MM Dan O'
1.0 MM Angelo
400 K Teresa R
350 K Peter T
300 K Noel
Thanks, everyone, for rowing and ski-erging with us!
Tony 2,222 m ...a palindrome! Two wheels!
Mikkel 4,750 m
Collin 5,000 m
Heather 5,000 m
Jeff 5,000 m
William 5,000 m
Teresa R 5,016 m
K2 5,059 m
Kevin 5,074 m
Jean M 5,097 m
David T 6,000 m
Rick 6,302 m
Tom R 6,641 m
Ken G 7,000 m
Jim M 7,418 m
Jay R 8,049 m
Dan O' 8,412 m
Jeff M 9,047 m
Patrick 10,000 m
Steve W 10,000 m
Stuart 10,000 m
Terry B 10,000 m
bg 10,021 m
David A 10,152 m
Larry 10,221 m
Howard 11,151 m
Doug 12,184 m
Noel 12,199 m
Janice 14,559 m
Ron 22,222 m ...a palindrome!
Tombeur 24,157 m
Peter T 26,118 m
Thor 27,095 m
Ed 33,333 m ...a palindrome in threes!
Richard T 49,595 m
Angelo 77,227 m ...and he reaches ONE million!
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Congratulations, Jeff and Angelo--well done!!
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My computer says that the photo or image has been deleted by owner Ok got it thanks
Re: LUNA-TICS TEAM ROOM: Year-round "Looney" fun.
One lump or two? ... both, actually.
Congratulations, Jeff and Angelo ! !!
And to all the Lunies still playing in the Mad Tea Party.
Muddy Girl
Not snow, nor rain, nor sun or even broken erg can stop our fearless leader.
I just happened to notice that our very own K2 got her 25 days in. Ya K2. Now go wash them feets.
I never did figure out how to sort so I can see all the Lunes. A big way to go to all that completed it at whatever level you chose. There is still one more day for the drawing and to get the 25 days in.
Have fun and rock on.
I just happened to notice that our very own K2 got her 25 days in. Ya K2. Now go wash them feets.
I never did figure out how to sort so I can see all the Lunes. A big way to go to all that completed it at whatever level you chose. There is still one more day for the drawing and to get the 25 days in.
Have fun and rock on.