Pete Plan Autumn 2015

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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by Galeere » January 4th, 2016, 8:17 am

bisqeet wrote: Anyone hear from Jack?
Hope everything went according to the cunning plan..
I hope so too; would be nice to hear from you Jack, keeping our fingers crossed for a fast recovery!
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by G-dub » January 4th, 2016, 9:21 am

Hardy, great first two sessions to start back into PP - the 5 X 1500 especially.
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by jackarabit » January 4th, 2016, 12:36 pm

Following your progress over Xmas week. Great things from All of you fellows! I cancelled the hand surgery and rescheduled for Next Monday, 11 Jan. due to unforeseen family problem. Just got back from Indiana (live in Delaware) yesterday evening. Picked up the mail this morning but not moving very fast yet. Haven't had access to a rower since Dec. 19. I will try to get back on track with an hour a day for the next week but nothing very ambitious.
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by G-dub » January 4th, 2016, 1:01 pm

We look forward to your return, Jack! Happy New Year.
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by Galeere » January 4th, 2016, 1:52 pm

Thx Glenn, it´s a tough ordeal but I guess it is needed to improve on the 2k! Good to hear from you Jack!
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by mdpfirrman » January 4th, 2016, 2:53 pm

Nice times Dean / Hardy. Very impressive. Good to hear from you Jack. Glad that you're fine (and the surgery was just postponed).

I'm still fighting this cold I got (I suppose). Tried to get back on track today with W1 / D1 of PP (8 X 500). My best 2K is 1:52.5 pace so PP says take 3 seconds off (1:49.5 for me as a target). However, with two weeks off, Pete suggests adding 2 seconds to that time, so 1:51.5. So did I follow that advice?? Of course not!!

Didn't take a pic of my times so these are estimated (and forget the HRM -- too bad because I think I would have found my max today).

1:50.2
1:49.8
1:48.7
1:48.6
1:47.5
1:58 (wheels came off here)
2:00 (just tried to hit 2 on this one)
2:02 (couldn't even hit 2:00 on the last)

I did a W/U like I'm supposed to, just nothing in the tank and disregarded all advice (as usual) and crashed hard today. Overall, not feeling horrible in recovery. Combination of starting to go too fast too soon and overly ambitious pace coming off of two weeks off / on with the cold. Looking forward to a recovery day tomorrow.
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by G-dub » January 4th, 2016, 5:45 pm

6 X 500 / 3:30 R (I'm sneaking up on it)
Avg: 1:43.5, r32/33

1- 1:43.9 r33
2- 1:43.7 r33
3- 1:43.6 r31
4- 1:43.5 r32
5- 1:43.5 r33
6- 1:43.0 r35

Encouraging session given the past month or so. Had unused power in there on some of them and they weren't too awful to do. Probably should have done 8, but set it up for 6 of them. Something to build from.
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by bisqeet » January 4th, 2016, 7:15 pm

G-dub wrote:6 X 500 / 3:30 R (I'm sneaking up on it)
Avg: 1:43.5, r32/33

1- 1:43.9 r33
2- 1:43.7 r33
3- 1:43.6 r31
4- 1:43.5 r32
5- 1:43.5 r33
6- 1:43.0 r35

Encouraging session given the past month or so. Had unused power in there on some of them and they weren't too awful to do. Probably should have done 8, but set it up for 6 of them. Something to build from.
Tighter than a gnats chuff, as my grandad would say - r35 on the last, made you work for it, but you kept it up.

What is the first to go. Legs or arms that you have to compensate with the rate ? Just curious....
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by G-dub » January 4th, 2016, 7:28 pm

You know Dean, it really wasn't fatigue that caused the rate up, just that I was on a faster split I think. My legs were starting to get heavy on the sixth one, as they should. One thing I did notice during the middle ones is that I can use my back and arms more and in better sequence. Not sure for how long I can hold it, but I had some really nice strokes at r30 and the pace was 1:42 for 200-250m or so? It was clear when I backed the pace down to what I thought was the right workout pace that it was the arms and back that I "relaxed" if you will.

Anyway, this one actually gets me excited again (but I wish it was 8 of them)! I think I'm going to reduce my volume a hair this next two weeks to see if that helps my progress on the hard sessions.
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by Edward4492 » January 4th, 2016, 10:54 pm

Those are some pretty solid 500's. My last round was eight of 'em (on 3:30r) at 1:45. Looks like your high volume approach has developed enough aerobic capacity to carry the speed. Be curious to see what several weeks of speed work does for your top end.

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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by hjs » January 5th, 2016, 5:01 am

G-dub wrote:You know Dean, it really wasn't fatigue that caused the rate up, just that I was on a faster split I think. My legs were starting to get heavy on the sixth one, as they should. One thing I did notice during the middle ones is that I can use my back and arms more and in better sequence. Not sure for how long I can hold it, but I had some really nice strokes at r30 and the pace was 1:42 for 200-250m or so? It was clear when I backed the pace down to what I thought was the right workout pace that it was the arms and back that I "relaxed" if you will.

Anyway, this one actually gets me excited again (but I wish it was 8 of them)! I think I'm going to reduce my volume a hair this next two weeks to see if that helps my progress on the hard sessions.
In short 5.8 versus 6.5 :wink: 33/35 is not high for you.

You seem to be getting a bit trough it, took a long while with your cold.

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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by G-dub » January 5th, 2016, 9:23 am

Ed, I hope this was a good sign too! Finally felt like I had power and needed to hold back a little in the first 4 or so. I lowered my feet one hole (one hole now showing) and I'm not sure that slight angle change didn't help a little. Got my body over my knees a little better. Anyway, something to build from. These aren't the best ones I've done yet, and I only did 6 of them, so more work to come. I feel like I need to be 1:42.5 or so to have a shot.

Henry, I wondered if that is what you would say! I feel good at about r34 on 2K due to breathing and rythm. For some reason I try to stay lower on these intervals with the same or faster speeds. Maybe that's one reason they get hard to finish!
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by Galeere » January 5th, 2016, 9:43 am

Good work Glenn!
Heavy work there Mike, looks painful, better take it a bit easier on the first sets next time.

Todays workout here:
W1D4 recovery at gym, HM @ DF 125, total time 1:27:39.1 (steady between 2:04 and 2:05), restricted SPM 23 (22-24), HR range 138-155 (last 3bpm during last 10min, showed that I haven´t done a HM in 2 weeks :shock: ), avg. 145, BS 13
15min stretching afterwards.
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by bisqeet » January 5th, 2016, 10:23 am

Same as above - DF 133 (I never change it)
Low intensity HM
R20 - 2:10 - HR just barely scraping UT1
just muscle memory training, building the aerobic base
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Re: Pete Plan Autumn 2015

Post by ericallenboyd » January 5th, 2016, 1:12 pm

w2d1 round 2, felt much better than last time. last round I was at 1:56 avg 500m so improved that.
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