500 meter Wr attempt

[Bob S.]

1.14.4 powerlifter.

Very impressive performance. But what's this with using the handle for programming the monitor? That's a new one on me. This guy must have been training for it. Good technique, smooth stroke, didn't need to have anyone holding down the erg - there was no grasshopper jumping like I have often seen in power rowing. He also seemed relaxed at the finish. No collapse, no flopping on the floor. This guy just calmly unstrapped his feet, took a picture of the monitor, got up, and walked off as casual as can be. An enormous contrast to the video of the rugby player.
Bob S.

[hjs]

1.14.4 powerlifter.

Very impressive performance. But what's this with using the handle for programming the monitor? That's a new one on me. This guy must have been training for it. Good technique, smooth stroke, didn't need to have anyone holding down the erg - there was no grasshopper jumping like I have often seen in power rowing. He also seemed relaxed at the finish. No collapse, no flopping on the floor. This guy just calmly unstrapped his feet, took a picture of the monitor, got up, and walked off as casual as can be. An enormous contrast to the video of the rugby player.
Bob S.

It looks like his belly is in the way
He was tired though, look at his endpace.

Impressive certainly, those guys are not for nothing so strong/heavy. The best vid I ever saw was Shotputter Werner Gunthor hopping around. With his 130/40 kg.

[bisqeet]

imagine how fast he could be without the belly - full stroke, reaching forward.
looks smoother than a lot of others videos out there.

[Shawn Baker]

Definitely a great display of explosive power by Werner!!

[Balkan boy]

Now that guy is pretty impressive.
True Olympian.
His training (in related videos) is also interesting. He was doing stuff 20 years ago that I'm discovering only now, and most people still don't know.

[Edward4492]

I saw that video several months ago, it is pretty impressive. Good form, guy looks like he knows what he's doing. Fading fast at the end, maybe losing some excess weight and more aerobic training gets him closer. Excellent pull, but a long way from 1:10.

[Edward4492]

Helluva pull by Ross. Kind of makes my point about these 1:14-1:16 guys. Ross has been training heavily to break the WR, to my knowledge he has the second fastest 500m ever. And he still needs another two seconds. It's just so unbelievably difficult to find that time when you're at those huge power outputs.

[hjs]

Helluva pull by Ross. Kind of makes my point about these 1:14-1:16 guys. Ross has been training heavily to break the WR, to my knowledge he has the second fastest 500m ever. And he still needs another two seconds. It's just so unbelievably difficult to find that time when you're at those huge power outputs.

Yes Edward, but you don,t count in the work done, only a handfull of people really trained for the 500. Young, Rob Smith, Phaller (pound for pound the best by far) and now Ross. And Ross is not 100% fit and has backtrouble.
All the the other guys just gave it a shot or 2 without real specific training nog being able to pace the piece a bit. Every fly and die 500 is never a max row.

[bisqeet]

Good training methods with the help of certain substances helps a lot....
Just going to throw it out there...
- I was very active as an athlete then trainer in the track and field....seen stuff you wouldn't believe... Even kids (under 16)....

[hjs]

Good training methods with the help of certain substances helps a lot....
Just going to throw it out there...
- I was very active as an athlete then trainer in the track and field....seen stuff you wouldn't believe... Even kids (under 16)....

Yes, the top powerlifters use. And yes its not for nothing that all track and field reords for woman are standin for years...
But I if we look at results from before the peds where invented, there where super strong people. The one handed deadlift record from Herman Gorner is still standing. And 100% natural because BEFORE stuff peds did excist.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermann_Görner

[bisqeet]

Exist?
I take it you are referring to the newer designer drugs I.e Epo etc.?
The pressure is quite high for those at the top and no doubt those that haven't used were very tempted just to keep up.
But back in the 80s 90s nearly all the Dda, Cccp athletes were using without knowing. A lot of the stuff just wasn't indexed back then....
But we are going OT....

[hjs]

Exist?
I take it you are referring to the newer designer drugs I.e Epo etc.?
The pressure is quite high for those at the top and no doubt those that haven't used were very tempted just to keep up.
But back in the 80s 90s nearly all the Dda, Cccp athletes were using without knowing. A lot of the stuff just wasn't indexed back then....
But we are going OT....

No, I talk about all doping, and not about the 80/90 ties. I talk about the pre Dianabol times. I those days there simply was nothing. So everything from those days is 100% natural.

Without knowing? Mm maybe the younger ones, and in the beginning there was no control, so everything could be used. And later on the penalties where very mild, In the tour the france you got a bit time penalty if you got caught.

Still OT if powerlifters/strongman come in, so do ped s. Very common in those circles.

[PowerRower]

It is unfortunate that society has been conditioned to assume that just because someone does something notable that he or she must be cheating. Rowing is simply a niche sport. Top level athletes do not row, period. If you took the best non rowing athletes in the world, trained them on the erg for a year.. Every record would be destroyed. That includes Waddels 2k record as amazing as it is. I am a broken down, busted, "athlete" at this point... if I would have found the Erg at say 23 yr old I would have demolished Leo's record.. and I was a fair ccollegiate athlete... nothing amazing by any means. The rowing community is small even on the professional level and while there are some really good athletes out there it is still in a vacuum. My .02

[Shawn Baker]

Ross, I'd be inclined to agree with you regarding the records for the shorter distances but not so sure about the distance events- not sure which top athlete would break , for example the 10k record- are you "retired" from the 500 or are you going to give it another go?

[PowerRower]

Its all relative to Specialization, Sean. The best athletes in the world play a handful of mainstream sports because thats where the money is. If the money was in rowing you would have different standards.

I am currently doing longer distance stuff. I had to let my back heal a bit. Gonna compete at the Crash B's in late February and then assess the situation after that. I am not far off the 1k WR... I think I will be making a run at that following my Boston Appearance. Hard to get motivated to start sprinting again.