Getting more data from my PM5?!

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Livio Livius
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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by Livio Livius » July 2nd, 2015, 1:16 pm

dr3do wrote:I have installed on my Android smartphone, which is ANT+ capable, a tool called ANT+ Plugin Sampler. With this tool, which "spoofs" to be watch, I can connect to my PM5 and get all sort of useful data. Like watts, SPM (cadence), stroke count, drive length (cycle length), speed (only m/s, not pace m/500m)…

Screenshot: http://imgur.com/zijFvQG

For me that means, the FIT profile is still implemented, but it is maybe buggy?
With Garmin FR210 Ant+ is recording and FIT file is created which I can upload to TrainingPeaks showing HR, SPM, Wattage.

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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by dr3do » July 3rd, 2015, 9:13 am

Livio Livius wrote:With Garmin FR210 Ant+ is recording and FIT file is created which I can upload to TrainingPeaks showing HR, SPM, Wattage.
Sounds good. Unfortunately the FR210 is an outdated product – in the country where I am, some leftover pieces are sold for about $200. :lol:

Do you use a SkiErg-PM5 or a Rower-PM5? And… which Firmware version you have?
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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by Livio Livius » July 3rd, 2015, 2:10 pm

dr3do wrote:
Livio Livius wrote:With Garmin FR210 Ant+ is recording and FIT file is created which I can upload to TrainingPeaks showing HR, SPM, Wattage.
Sounds good. Unfortunately the FR210 is an outdated product – in the country where I am, some leftover pieces are sold for about $200. :lol:

Do you use a SkiErg-PM5 or a Rower-PM5? And… which Firmware version you have?
Rower with PM5 but previously with PM4, latest firmware v19

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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by dr3do » July 3rd, 2015, 3:21 pm

Livio Livius wrote:Rower with PM5 but previously with PM4, latest firmware v19
Thanks Livio Livius. That helps me. :D

I'll try to get a FR610 (about same generation like FR210) which and supports "ANT+™ in the Gym" too.
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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by dr3do » July 7th, 2015, 1:31 pm

PM5 (RowErg) and FR610 are working together greatly. B)

Via Garmin Connect it looks like this: https://connect.garmin.com/activity/826242672
Via Sport Tracks (mobi) it looks like this: http://sporttracks.mobi/activity/8851363
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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by SSo » November 2nd, 2015, 11:16 am

Livio Livius wrote:
dr3do wrote:I have installed on my Android smartphone, which is ANT+ capable, a tool called ANT+ Plugin Sampler. With this tool, which "spoofs" to be watch, I can connect to my PM5 and get all sort of useful data. Like watts, SPM (cadence), stroke count, drive length (cycle length), speed (only m/s, not pace m/500m)…

Screenshot: http://imgur.com/zijFvQG

For me that means, the FIT profile is still implemented, but it is maybe buggy?
With Garmin FR210 Ant+ is recording and FIT file is created which I can upload to TrainingPeaks showing HR, SPM, Wattage.

How do you connect the Garmin FR210, pressing the light button or what?
I tried just starting an activity, but only gut HRM to the Skierg (pm4) but no data to the watch..

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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by dr3do » November 2nd, 2015, 1:14 pm

SSo wrote:How do you connect the Garmin FR210, pressing the light button or what?
I tried just starting an activity, but only gut HRM to the Skierg (pm4) but no data to the watch..
It's quite simple. Follow these steps every time you want do a workout and you want to get it logged onto you watch.

Turn the PM4 by pressing the menu button --> select More Options --> select Turn Wireless ON --> select Or, Connect with ANT+ --> wait until your watch shows up in the display --> choose your watch --> confirm --> finished.

Now your watch is connected to the PM4 and data will be transmitted to the watch. Choose a workout on the PM4 and start to erg…
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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by SSo » November 2nd, 2015, 2:00 pm

dr3do wrote: It's quite simple. Follow these steps every time you want do a workout and you want to get it logged onto you watch.

Turn the PM4 by pressing the menu button --> select More Options --> select Turn Wireless ON --> select Or, Connect with ANT+ --> wait until your watch shows up in the display --> choose your watch --> confirm --> finished.

Now your watch is connected to the PM4 and data will be transmitted to the watch. Choose a workout on the PM4 and start to erg…
Thanks for your reply, think I did that on the PM4, but what do I do on my FR210?

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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by dr3do » November 2nd, 2015, 2:02 pm

SSo wrote:Thanks for your reply, think I did that on the PM4, but what do I do on my FR210?
Nothing. With the established connection all data will transferred to the FR210. The moment you start to erg, the timer on the FR210 should start by itself.
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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by SSo » November 2nd, 2015, 2:18 pm

dr3do wrote: Nothing. With the established connection all data will transferred to the FR210. The moment you start to erg, the timer on the FR210 should start by itself.
Thanks, I'll give it a try! :)

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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by hirbel » November 8th, 2015, 3:34 pm

Do you guys know whether the Garmin Fenix 3 can be connected to the pm5?

I've tried to connect it but was not successful. Maybe I was doing wrong.

Thanks

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Re: Getting more data from my PM5?!

Post by dr3do » January 16th, 2016, 9:56 am

hirbel wrote:Do you guys know whether the Garmin Fenix 3 can be connected to the pm5? I've tried to connect it but was not successful. Maybe I was doing wrong.
No, you didn't it wrong.

The F3 simply doesn't support the needed ANT+ profile (FE = Fitness Equipment) to communicate with the PM4/5.
The PM5/4 simply does not support the needed ANT+ profile (PWR = Power, CAD = Cadence, S&C = Speed and Cadence) to communicate with the F3.

I asked (begged) Concept2 development for this, but from their point of view it's up to Garmin to… and from Garmin's point of view it's Concept2 who has to…

Well… at the end we – the customers – are the losers. Makes me :evil:
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