Sculling Vs Sweep

[old] gorow9 · Post by **[old] gorow9** » November 23rd, 2004, 2:30 pm

Just curious what people find to be the biggest differences in sweep and sculling, I personally think it's tenique. -Feathering -Motion -Grip -Others What do ya'll think? ~Sara~

[old] Bravo · Post by **[old] Bravo** » November 23rd, 2004, 10:13 pm

HI, I rowed sweep and scull. I think the biggest difference is that in sweep you have 1 oar and in scull 2 I dont think there is some big big difference. All rowers I know are able to row both. But I like sweep more because the oar-blade is a little bigger so you can grab more water and you always have to work in a team.. 2- for live

[old] Kudos · Post by **[old] Kudos** » November 24th, 2004, 12:17 am

sweeping is for meat heads sculling is for athletes Ha, just kidding. I've done both, but I wouldn't say that most on the water rowers can do both. In my experience that is not the case. Just about everyone can sweep, but not all of them know how to scull. Even though I have done for most of my 11 year career, I really do not like sweeping all that much. The one sided-ness annoys me. Not to say that it is flawed, just a personal preference. Most people who learn to row, learn by sweeping and never learn how to scull. In American High school and college I'd 95% of schools only have sweep. So thats why so many people know only sweep. But most scullers know how to sweep as well. Any idiot can downgrade

[old] gorow9 · Post by **[old] gorow9** » November 24th, 2004, 10:52 am

Bravo, thankyou captian obvious. Well that's an interresting... ? ... opinion, Kudos. Here's what I'm thinking is the biggest difference, feathering. In sweep you have to be careful to feather only with u'r inside hand, a chalange for those of us who learned sculling. Tenique. More seperation in the stroke in sweep, enforcing unity in the boat. Anyone else want to add/correct anything? ~Sara~

[old] bw1099 · Post by **[old] bw1099** » November 25th, 2004, 11:00 pm

The big difference that I notice is that when you are sculling you can stop and rest whenever you want. I am fairly new to rowing. I started sculling last year and sweeps this year. What I am aware of is that it is a lot easier to keep the oars off the water during the recovery with sweeps, and that rolling into the catch is almost impossible for me with sculls. Somehow, 4-8 people with one oar each can keep the boat more stable that I can by myself with two oars. After I started sweeps, I became much more aware of my sculling technique since there wasn't anyone to tell me what I was doing wrong when I was alone on the water at 6am. An interesting observation is that I tend to dig with my starboard oar, but not with the port. I wonder if it is because I sweep port, and have spent more time working on that side (while the starboard guy ahead of me tends to dig.) bw

[old] eurofoot13 · Post by **[old] eurofoot13** » November 26th, 2004, 1:27 am

well, a lot of that digging can come from having your hands at a different level, rather than one following the other. That unevenness can cause all sorts of undesired effects. ( I figured that one out after several dunkings made me much wiser) To me, sculling is simply a different sport than sweep rowing. It's completely different, from ratios of the parts of the stroke, to hand motions, to body prep, Everything changes when I am sculling. Perhaps this is because I have only sculled on my own, and I haven't had very many formal coaching sessions, well, at least compared to sweep! Sculling is also a form of release to me. After frustrating rows with 8 other guys, it's really beneficial to be able to go out solo or with just one other friend, and just row well, neither of you totally dependent upon the other, but at the same time, intrinsically linked. I guess that's why the double is my favorite boat, it's just got this mystique to it for me. Maybe it's the fact that the first boat I ever rowed was a double, but to me, racing in a good double is the closest to nirvana I'll ever get.

[old] jamesg · Post by **[old] jamesg** » November 26th, 2004, 6:35 am

When sculling a single, you have the obvious advantages of being captain, crew, engineroom, steersman, bow, stroke, coach, tactician and also the one that's supposed to balance the boat, put her in and lift out, clean and repair her, even pay for the lady. And take the blame for any swimming that has to be done. Advantage may not be the right word after all. Come to think of it, when swimming you have all the pros and not so many cons... However sculling does sometimes approach the second nearest to Nirvana, when the boat's running well and your bladework clicks at every stroke; and even coming ashore, boat on shoulder, sculls in hand, soaked in sweat after a good pull, can be highly satisfactory.

[old] remador · Post by **[old] remador** » November 26th, 2004, 6:53 am

I do not agree with the opinion that most people can sweep and just few guys and girls are able to scull. This is a matter of school: I've noticed that, in clubs where sweeping is the strong matter, sculling is bad; and the other way around. I know several guys that can't sweep - they just never practiced it for long enough! On the other hand, I think balance is a big difference; in IMO, sweeping is harder, when it comes to balance. You may say: single-sculling is the most difficult boat, talking about balance. Well, it just isn,'t: 2- or 2+ are the hardest shells to balance. Also, a 4x is by far easier to balance than a 4- or 4+. Sculling is more balanced when it comes to muscular work; for the same reason, sweeping is more taxing for your back. AM

[old] Kudos · Post by **[old] Kudos** » November 26th, 2004, 9:08 am

In very few schools/clubs across the country, sculling is the predominent force. Thats why I said a majority of people know how to sweep but not scull. I also said that most scullers can sweep as well, for the obvious reason that since most clubs/schools are sweep oriented, if you want to be a part of them or learned to row at one, you know sweep and learned sculling on your own. I would say approximately 90% of school rowers are sweep dominent and 70% of club rowers are sweep dominent. In college, there is no championship race for any sculling events, just to prove my point. Although there is a lot a clubs who have mostly scullers, they don't have large memberships. Heres a little experiment. Put a bunch of sweepers with no sculling experience into a sculling boat. Then take a bunch of scullers with no experience sweeping (a hard find) into a sweep boat. See which group grasps the concept and moves the boat quicker. I don't think anyone would be surprised of the outcome. I do agree that the 2-/+ is one of the hardest boats to row, but only because it is the heaviest. But in regards to all boats, its a matter of who is in them that determines wheter or not it balances. I have been in plenty of quads that make me feel sea sick and plenty of fours that I could break dance in on the recovery and not upset it. The people are the difference, not the hull. A pair can seem like a magic carpet ride compared to quad if the person has more sweep experience than sculling.

[old] gorow9 · Post by **[old] gorow9** » November 27th, 2004, 4:07 pm

OK so I get the feeling a lot of the difference is in team work... well sculling can require teamwork... does require teamwork. Team with the boat u'r in. Or a double or quad... they even make an "octuple" an eight person sculling boat. I think that would be fun to try but they say it's not very efficient. Understandably so. Anyway Just wanted to remind ya'll of that. ~Sara~ "Row till u die then power 10"

[old] JosephNovak · Post by **[old] JosephNovak** » November 27th, 2004, 5:28 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td class='genmed'>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>I personally think it's tenique. </td></tr></table> At the risk of seeming prissy, I looked up <a href='http://dictionary.cambridge.org/results ... &image.y=4' target='_blank'>tenique</a>, and as you can see it's not there. I wouldn't have done that except you used the same spelling a few times, so I figured <a href='http://www.collegeboard.com/student/tes ... about.html' target='_blank'>SAT</a> word . So is it slang or a typo? Joe "with all these buttons you think they could add a spell checker" Novak P.S. How do you add the author info when you QUOTE?

[old] gorow9 · Post by **[old] gorow9** » December 1st, 2004, 11:12 am

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