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[old] Chad Williams · Post by **[old] Chad Williams** » February 27th, 2006, 2:02 pm

500 - 1:25.6 – 26spm 1000 - 1:27.8 – 38spm 1500 - 1:26.6 – over 40spm 2000 - 1:26.2 – way over 50spm Explain to me how you could up the rate by such a massive amount but keep the splits so consistent? Mark, instead of quacking and going off at tangents all the time, trying to take the action away from the reason we are all on this thread. Try and answer my question above. Let’s see if you know anything about rowing instead of trying to bait me.

[old] hjs · Post by **[old] hjs** » February 27th, 2006, 2:18 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(mpukita @ Feb 27 2006, 06:55 PM) </div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(hjs @ Feb 27 2006, 12:27 PM) </div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Mark, we will see if he will show up and what he pulls next year. No point, I think, in arguing upfront on that. And don,t talk about ranger, that man doesn,t do 90 % of what he says, but he did at least one race and has done much more in the past. I offcause Chad hasn't proof, there can never be, any proof, he is just trying to build up the pressure on Dwayne, that's all. </td></tr></table> So, let me get this straight ... lay off Chad, because he's all talk, thus far, and no action? But, we'll cut him slack because he's a new blow hard here ... we'll give him a year to produce. And, oh, by the way, while we give him that year, he gets to take swipes at people who have been producing and contributing here for a long time? Right, sure, I'll do that. Not. Ranger, more than most here, has PRODUCED what is a near WR time, this season. Yes, he goes on and on, but he PRODUCED. Something Chad hasn't done with CAD1 or CAD2, nor with his racing. Of course he has no proof, he's in la la land. </td></tr></table> Mark, It's a free world you can do what you want offcause, about the rowing of chad he isn,t claming much (only a bit about his training although today he was talking about a fast 5k), but that's al. And yes he is becoming childish at he moment, but so are you

. About ranger. The man talks talks and talks and people believe him (sadly) What are the facts: he was a not fully developed rower and rowed 6.27 ish?, from then on he trained as much as he could for three years and fully developped his rowingpotential. This made him capable of rowing 6.29 again (covering his aging) and if he hasn't done so foolish (drag and weight) he even could have gone a few seconds faster. Al his other claims about what he could do has only been talk. He has done nothing, no 8 x 500, no longer time pieces , no HM, no FM, although he almost on a daily bases claims he can do all that. The only thing I can say then : Show it man, show it. 8) And about mr Adams, I am very sceptical, I only believe him if he does 1 public race, no matter what distance, If he than indeed produces a good result it will proof, to me, all his other claims. His 5.46 race and the splits/rates are totally unreal. If someone can row in such a way he is capable off a lot more, in this case way beyond wr level. Try it yourself mark. Rowing a 2k in that fashion (thereabout) and see what it will bring you.

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » February 27th, 2006, 2:50 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(hjs @ Feb 27 2006, 01:18 PM) </div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Mark, It's a free world you can do what you want offcause, about the rowing of chad he isn,t claming much (only a bit about his training although today he was talking about a fast 5k), but that's al. And yes he is becoming childish at he moment, but so are you

. About ranger. The man talks talks and talks and people believe him (sadly) What are the facts: he was a not fully developed rower and rowed 6.27 ish?, from then on he trained as much as he could for three years and fully developped his rowingpotential. This made him capable of rowing 6.29 again (covering his aging) and if he hasn't done so foolish (drag and weight) he even could have gone a few seconds faster. Al his other claims about what he could do has only been talk. He has done nothing, no 8 x 500, no longer time pieces , no HM, no FM, although he almost on a daily bases claims he can do all that. The only thing I can say then : Show it man, show it. 8) And about mr Adams, I am very sceptical, I only believe him if he does 1 public race, no matter what distance, If he than indeed produces a good result it will proof, to me, all his other claims. His 5.46 race and the splits/rates are totally unreal. If someone can row in such a way he is capable off a lot more, in this case way beyond wr level. Try it yourself mark. Rowing a 2k in that fashion (thereabout) and see what it will bring you.

</td></tr></table> HJS: Here's the deal. None of what you've written is relevant to the topic at hand ... and I disgree with much of it. The matter at hand is, Chad says he has proof ... evidence ... yet he's not produced it. You feel I'm "childish" because I confront a guy who is basically lying about having some "proof"? You're entitled to your opinion of what and who I am, but don't be disappointed when I tell you that your opinion, in this matter, means little to me. No offense meant, it's how I feel. With respect to Ranger, you can feel like he talked and didn't produce ... that's your right. However, he did race, he did produce a sub-6:30 time as a 55-year-old, and he did it live and in person. At least he delivered on SOMETHING. All the rest about 500M intervals, marathons, HMs is just static. Who cares? Here's what I do know, and what I do care about: Chad has delivered on NOTHING. You're also free to be skeptical of Dwayne's times. Many are. But to take the next step and say he cheated, without any proof, is bull s%@t. Whether you do it or Chad does it. I'm unconcerned about 36 vs. 46 ... I know enough about rowing to know that 46 SPM would be tough, or impossible, for me. But, I also know that Dwayne does some pretty high rate stuff, at less than full slide, based on some things he's experimented with, tried in the CTC, and learned from people like Lisa ... things I know that you do not. In essence, I have done a bit more homework than you. And, it could have been a typo - 36 vs. 46. But still, irrelevant to the topic at hand ... Chad's accusations. Many here, including you, seem to want to move from that topic point, to other discussions that deflect from it ... and take us off task. My task is this ... I feel Chad has lied about having proof ... and I want to show him for what I believe he is. A LIAR. Simple. Clean. Direct. Easy. Regards ... Mark

[old] dadams · Post by **[old] dadams** » February 27th, 2006, 3:18 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Feb 27 2006, 01:02 PM) </div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>500 - 1:25.6 – 26spm 1000 - 1:27.8 – 38spm 1500 - 1:26.6 – over 40spm 2000 - 1:26.2 – way over 50spm Explain to me how you could up the rate by such a massive amount but keep the splits so consistent? Mark, instead of quacking and going off at tangents all the time, trying to take the action away from the reason we are all on this thread. Try and answer my question above. Let’s see if you know anything about rowing instead of trying to bait me. </td></tr></table> Easy enough to answer. First of all, I'm human like everyone else on this thread. That said, the three (3) and four (4) sit right next to each other on the keyboard. Typo...whoops. Pardon me. As someone has figured out already, the SR was closer to 37 than it was to 36. Second of all. Let's see how much you know about rowing. If you truely are an experienced erger/rower, you know that you can change your rate at an instant, and have your split back to where it was within a stroke or two. Not to hard if you've been doing it long enough. You know the feel of the machine/boat, and can do it over and over again.

[old] hjs · Post by **[old] hjs** » February 27th, 2006, 3:24 pm

You feel I'm "childish" because I confront a guy who is basically lying about having some "proof"? You're entitled to your opinion of what and who I am, but don't be disappointed when I tell you that your opinion, in this matter, means little to me. No offense meant, it's how I feel. With respect to Ranger, you can feel like he talked and didn't produce ... that's your right. However, he did race, he did produce a sub-6:30 time as a 55-year-old, and he did it live and in person. At least he delivered on SOMETHING. All the rest about 500M intervals, marathons, HMs is just static. Who cares? Here's what I do know, and what I do care about: Chad has delivered on NOTHING. You're also free to be skeptical of Dwayne's times. Many are. But to take the next step and say he cheated, without any proof, is bull s%@t. Whether you do it or Chad does it. I'm unconcerned about 36 vs. 46 ... I know enough about rowing to know that 46 SPM would be tough, or impossible, for me. But, I also know that Dwayne does some pretty high rate stuff, at less than full slide, based on some things he's experimented with, tried in the CTC, and learned from people like Lisa ... things I know that you do not. In essence, I have done a bit more homework than you. And, it could have been a typo - 36 vs. 46. But still, irrelevant to the topic at hand ... Chad's accusations. Many here, including you, seem to want to move from that topic point, to other discussions that deflect from it ... and take us off task. My task is this ... I feel Chad has lied about having proof ... and I want to show him for what I believe he is. A LIAR. Simple. Clean. Direct. Easy. Regards ... Mark [/quote] About being childish: I talk about the namecalling you both do. That's all. About the proof chad claims he has, I agree, he hasn,t and is only trying to put pressure on Dwayne. If you call this lying, you make a point. About ranger: more narcistic people can't be found. The reason I care about this is that he get's people following his method and I think that is wrong. About the rating stuff. It is not possible to mess around with the rating if you do an allout 2k. To get a pb you need to pace and rate fairly even to get the best result. Doing it the way as discribed, it is not possible to come near a pb. Ask any experienced rower how they race best and I garantee you 100% off them will say that they can not do it that way. It,s not the high rating. But the totale combination. And offcause I don't expect you to think the way that i do

, I think it absolute doesn,t matter what I say to you. That's fine bye me. And I think that you now what I think about your opinion in his matter

. But I will start calling you names, I disagree but respect you. If you and chad do start calling eachother names I think that is childish.

[old] JohnBOve · Post by **[old] JohnBOve** » February 27th, 2006, 3:41 pm

Mark wrote: <<You feel I'm "childish" because I confront a guy who is basically lying about having some "proof"? You're entitled to your opinion of what and who I am, but don't be disappointed when I tell you that your opinion, in this matter, means little to me. No offense meant, it's how I feel.>> I'm just an observer here and I certainly don't think you're childish. I do think, however, you might consider who you're arguing with. Whether or not Dwayne Adams rowed the time he claimed--if he didn't, the problem is his own--what is evident is that this Chad character is not entirely well. No reasonable, balanced person carries on in that fashion. He's obsessive and fixated and ranting. Forums like this unavoidably attract cranks. You shouldn't think that the ability to type an email is evidence of a healthy mind. I'm sorry to have misattributed the quote in my previous response. The advice still applies. <<You feel I'm "childish" because I confront a guy who is basically lying about having some "proof"? You're entitled to your opinion of what and who I am, but don't be disappointed when I tell you that your opinion, in this matter, means little to me. No offense meant, it's how I feel.>> I'm just an observer here and I certainly don't think you're childish. I do think, however, you might consider who you're arguing with. Whether or not Dwayne Adams rowed the time he claimed--if he didn't, the problem is his own--what is evident is that this Chad character is not entirely well. No reasonable, balanced person carries on in that fashion. He's obsessive and fixated and ranting. Forums like this unavoidably attract cranks. You shouldn't think that the ability to type an email is evidence of a healthy mind. <<You feel I'm "childish" because I confront a guy who is basically lying about having some "proof"? You're entitled to your opinion of what and who I am, but don't be disappointed when I tell you that your opinion, in this matter, means little to me. No offense meant, it's how I feel.>> I'm just an observer here and I certainly don't think you're childish. I do think, however, you might consider who you're arguing with. Whether or not Dwayne Adams rowed the time he claimed--if he didn't, the problem is his own--what is evident is that this Chad character is not entirely well. No reasonable, balanced person carries on in that fashion. He's obsessive and fixated and ranting. Forums like this unavoidably attract cranks. You shouldn't think that the ability to type an email is evidence of a healthy mind.

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » February 27th, 2006, 3:48 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(hjs @ Feb 27 2006, 02:24 PM) </div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>About being childish: I talk about the namecalling you both do. That's all. About the proof chad claims he has, I agree, he hasn,t and is only trying to put pressure on Dwayne. If you call this lying, you make a point. About ranger: more narcistic people can't be found. The reason I care about this is that he get's people following his method and I think that is wrong. About the rating stuff. It is not possible to mess around with the rating if you do an allout 2k. To get a pb you need to pace and rate fairly even to get the best result. Doing it the way as discribed, it is not possible to come near a pb. Ask any experienced rower how they race best and I garantee you 100% off them will say that they can not do it that way. It,s not the high rating. But the totale combination. And offcause I don't expect you to think the way that i do

, I think it absolute doesn,t matter what I say to you. That's fine bye me. And I think that you now what I think about your opinion in his matter

. But I will start calling you names, I disagree but respect you. If you and chad do start calling eachother names I think that is childish. </td></tr></table> HJS: Childish? My only response since you want to have the last word on this is ... whatever. Just like my 16-year-old would say. I'm not sure it's childish to call a guy a cad, sad, a liar, and a moron (meaning not too bright), when he's produced nothing by way of evidence ... and even his attempts at making up circumstantial evidence are lame. But, whatever. And, you want to chalk it up to "he's just putting pressure" on Dwayne? That, to me, is incredible logic. It's OK to besot the reputation of another because you want to put pressure on him? It's OK to lie to do that? This has got to be a major cultural difference between us HJS ... nobody viewed as "fair" from the US would ever stand for any of this. They'd shun Chad. Maybe that's why he's an American living abroad. Maybe he couldn't hack it here under the mores of our environment. And Ranger, how can you say his training methods are wrong? Just because you don't agree or do them? That's fine, but what I believe you mean is YOU FEEL HE'S WRONG. In fact, he could be very right, and you could be wrong. The beauty here is that everyone is free to support what they feel is the best way of training. I like the WP Plan, Ranger likes the Ranger Plan, Pete Marston likes the Pete Plan. People here are free to take a look, decide for themselves, experiment, change their minds, etc. It's wonderful. But who made you the saviour of new rowers and gave you insight into what is the only best training? Put your training plan forward, support it with fact and feeling, and let it seek its own level of acceptance with the readers here, rather than just spout off about why someone else's plan is "wrong". Present a solution as opposed to just bringing attention to perceived problems. Regarding the rating topic ... Dwayne has already said it was an error. And, I said it was just about impossible. But, then again, many here would have said that breaking 6:30 for Ranger would be impossible. Or that breaking a 4:00 mile would be impossible. There are plenty of limits that people see as unbreakable, yet they're broken. Maybe you're so sure you're always right that you can say, with 100% confidence, that nobody can do what was outlined. I certainly can't. I do care what you say, if I believe it has merit and value and substance. For you to say something, and want me to believe it just because it came from you, is not how I operate, nor do most of the people I know. They want some substantiation, some fact, some experience, some performance that backs up another's claims. That's all. -- Mark

[old] DavidA · Post by **[old] DavidA** » February 27th, 2006, 4:30 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(Stretch @ Feb 27 2006, 09:09 AM) </div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(Chad Williams @ Feb 27 2006, 04:43 AM) </div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>... sit tight my friends, all will be reviled soon ... </td></tr></table> Best. Freudian. Slip. Ever. </td></tr></table> I thought the same thing when I saw the post

David

[old] george nz · Post by **[old] george nz** » February 27th, 2006, 4:40 pm

Hi Chadwick, thanks for your reply a few pages back sorry for the delay but its the time zone thing dont ya know. Anyway having made some phone calls and spoken to a few people regarding your background (bit of internet research as well) I of course now understand why you have taken up this 'crusade' (the martyr complex) and why your behaving the way you do. Therefore I am not going to get into this argument with you at this time as you're behaviour is no more than can be expected under the circumstances. I hope you manage to get it all sorted out, but I dont really think this sort of 'stuff' is going to help you come to terms with your past and 'calm those demons' that beset you. My advice would be to 'set out' the information you think you have and leave it at that before get any deeper. Best of luck George

[old] mpukita · Post by **[old] mpukita** » February 27th, 2006, 4:50 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(george nz @ Feb 27 2006, 03:40 PM) </div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Hi Chadwick, thanks for your reply a few pages back sorry for the delay but its the time zone thing dont ya know. Anyway having made some phone calls and spoken to a few people regarding your background (bit of internet research as well) I of course now understand why you have taken up this 'crusade' (the martyr complex) and why your behaving the way you do. Therefore I am not going to get into this argument with you at this time as you're behaviour is no more than can be expected under the circumstances. I hope you manage to get it all sorted out, but I dont really think this sort of 'stuff' is going to help you come to terms with your past and 'calm those demons' that beset you. My advice would be to 'set out' the information you think you have and leave it at that before get any deeper. Best of luck George </td></tr></table> Now that's an interesting post George.

[old] hjs · Post by **[old] hjs** » February 27th, 2006, 5:06 pm

HJS: Childish? My only response since you want to have the last word on this is ... whatever. Just like my 16-year-old would say. I'm not sure it's childish to call a guy a cad, sad, a liar, and a moron (meaning not too bright), when he's produced nothing by way of evidence ... and even his attempts at making up circumstantial evidence are lame. But, whatever. And, you want to chalk it up to "he's just putting pressure" on Dwayne? That, to me, is incredible logic. It's OK to besot the reputation of another because you want to put pressure on him? It's OK to lie to do that? This has got to be a major cultural difference between us HJS ... nobody viewed as "fair" from the US would ever stand for any of this. They'd shun Chad. Maybe that's why he's an American living abroad. Maybe he couldn't hack it here under the mores of our environment. And Ranger, how can you say his training methods are wrong? Just because you don't agree or do them? That's fine, but what I believe you mean is YOU FEEL HE'S WRONG. In fact, he could be very right, and you could be wrong. The beauty here is that everyone is free to support what they feel is the best way of training. I like the WP Plan, Ranger likes the Ranger Plan, Pete Marston likes the Pete Plan. People here are free to take a look, decide for themselves, experiment, change their minds, etc. It's wonderful. But who made you the saviour of new rowers and gave you insight into what is the only best training? Put your training plan forward, support it with fact and feeling, and let it seek its own level of acceptance with the readers here, rather than just spout off about why someone else's plan is "wrong". Present a solution as opposed to just bringing attention to perceived problems. Regarding the rating topic ... Dwayne has already said it was an error. And, I said it was just about impossible. But, then again, many here would have said that breaking 6:30 for Ranger would be impossible. Or that breaking a 4:00 mile would be impossible. There are plenty of limits that people see as unbreakable, yet they're broken. Maybe you're so sure you're always right that you can say, with 100% confidence, that nobody can do what was outlined. I certainly can't. I do care what you say, if I believe it has merit and value and substance. For you to say something, and want me to believe it just because it came from you, is not how I operate, nor do most of the people I know. They want some substantiation, some fact, some experience, some performance that backs up another's claims. That's all. -- Mark [/quote] Mark I don,t want to have last word and I also don't think I have all the answers. about this chad/dwayne thing. To make it short. I think (can't proof it) dwayne has not rowed the times he ranked and I also think he will never race in public again and proof he did. Chad has to move on and do his is own thing, this is again what I think. But if he keeps on bashing dwayne than so be it. About how I think about erging. It is a simple movement and is doesn,t take much technic. More than 90 % of the performance is simply a question off, A talent and, B simply just do a lot of work. In my eyes it is the same as running or cycling. Just do a lot of longer work, it doesn,t matter how preciece, but aslong as you get your endurance ok you will reach 90 % or more off your potentieel. This brings me to ranger. Ranger first did a lot work at higher ratings and high drag, not he still does a lot of work, on lower ratings and lower drags. For me the main thing in both methods is the lots of work he does, this hasn,t changed. What is the result thusfar: his performence didn,t change much. His 2 k time stayed about the same. What does that tell me: It didn,t matter that much what he did, aslong as he gets his endurace on a very high level he will perform well. About the rating and dwayne. he saw he wasn,t making any sence so he altered his story. That's how I see it About the wp plan. To me it's a lot of work and this way getting a very good endurance. This will work. The sharpening is compared to most trainingprograms not much differant. So tis isn't a factor of importance. How do I train. I trie to train 6 times a week. I do 3 pure row trainings and three strengt/row trainings combined. On an average I row 40/60 k a week. In don,t do other training. My main focus from now up until the end of summer is to get my basic endurance on a bit higher level. From then I will start doing intervalwork (If I were totally fit I also would do pure sprintwork but my back doesn't allow me) This 2 times a week and 1 longer hard piece. The strenght/row training won,t alter much. I will not do the interval work you read here, I change it most of the time a little bit and don,t repeat training very often this way. My most important training, I do report on the uk forum, if someone wants to follow that, simply read it, if not also fine

And although I am not a rower/erger I am a experienced Altlete/trainer (not on toplevel) In track and field and fitness/strenght training. And what it means is for you to decide but after a long break ( 5 years) I started in okt 2005 on a 6.55 level and trained myself up to 6.24(public race) within 4 months. I hope to beat that next year and improve considerable. Will it happen? time will tell? Not saying if...............

but doing it in races

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » February 27th, 2006, 5:24 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE</div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>HJS: Childish? My only response since you want to have the last word on this is ... whatever. Just like my 16-year-old would say. I'm not sure it's childish to call a guy a cad, sad, a liar, and a moron (meaning not too bright), when he's produced nothing by way of evidence ... and even his attempts at making up circumstantial evidence are lame. But, whatever. And, you want to chalk it up to "he's just putting pressure" on Dwayne? That, to me, is incredible logic. It's OK to besot the reputation of another because you want to put pressure on him? It's OK to lie to do that? This has got to be a major cultural difference between us HJS ... nobody viewed as "fair" from the US would ever stand for any of this. They'd shun Chad. Maybe that's why he's an American living abroad. Maybe he couldn't hack it here under the mores of our environment. And Ranger, how can you say his training methods are wrong? Just because you don't agree or do them? That's fine, but what I believe you mean is YOU FEEL HE'S WRONG. In fact, he could be very right, and you could be wrong. The beauty here is that everyone is free to support what they feel is the best way of training. I like the WP Plan, Ranger likes the Ranger Plan, Pete Marston likes the Pete Plan. People here are free to take a look, decide for themselves, experiment, change their minds, etc. It's wonderful. But who made you the saviour of new rowers and gave you insight into what is the only best training? Put your training plan forward, support it with fact and feeling, and let it seek its own level of acceptance with the readers here, rather than just spout off about why someone else's plan is "wrong". Present a solution as opposed to just bringing attention to perceived problems. Regarding the rating topic ... Dwayne has already said it was an error. And, I said it was just about impossible. But, then again, many here would have said that breaking 6:30 for Ranger would be impossible. Or that breaking a 4:00 mile would be impossible. There are plenty of limits that people see as unbreakable, yet they're broken. Maybe you're so sure you're always right that you can say, with 100% confidence, that nobody can do what was outlined. I certainly can't. I do care what you say, if I believe it has merit and value and substance. For you to say something, and want me to believe it just because it came from you, is not how I operate, nor do most of the people I know. They want some substantiation, some fact, some experience, some performance that backs up another's claims. That's all. -- Mark </td></tr></table> <table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(hjs @ Feb 27 2006, 01:06 PM) </div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Mark I don,t want to have last word and I also don't think I have all the answers. about this chad/dwayne thing. To make it short. I think (can't proof it) dwayne has not rowed the times he ranked and I also think he will never race in public again and proof he did. Chad has to move on and do his is own thing, this is again what I think. But if he keeps on bashing dwayne than so be it. About how I think about erging. It is a simple movement and is doesn,t take much technic. More than 90 % of the performance is simply a question off, A talent and, B simply just do a lot of work. In my eyes it is the same as running or cycling. Just do a lot of longer work, it doesn,t matter how preciece, but aslong as you get your endurance ok you will reach 90 % or more off your potentieel. This brings me to ranger. Ranger first did a lot work at higher ratings and high drag, not he still does a lot of work, on lower ratings and lower drags. For me the main thing in both methods is the lots of work he does, this hasn,t changed. What is the result thusfar: his performence didn,t change much. His 2 k time stayed about the same. What does that tell me: It didn,t matter that much what he did, aslong as he gets his endurace on a very high level he will perform well. About the rating and dwayne. he saw he wasn,t making any sence so he altered his story. That's how I see it About the wp plan. To me it's a lot of work and this way getting a very good endurance. This will work. The sharpening is compared to most trainingprograms not much differant. So tis isn't a factor of importance. How do I train. I trie to train 6 times a week. I do 3 pure row trainings and three strengt/row trainings combined. On an average I row 40/60 k a week. In don,t do other training. My main focus from now up until the end of summer is to get my basic endurance on a bit higher level. From then I will start doing intervalwork (If I were totally fit I also would do pure sprintwork but my back doesn't allow me) This 2 times a week and 1 longer hard piece. The strenght/row training won,t alter much. I will not do the interval work you read here, I change it most of the time a little bit and don,t repeat training very often this way. My most important training, I do report on the uk forum, if someone wants to follow that, simply read it, if not also fine

And although I am not a rower/erger I am a experienced Altlete/trainer (not on toplevel) In track and field and fitness/strenght training. And what it means is for you to decide but after a long break ( 5 years) I started in okt 2005 on a 6.55 level and trained myself up to 6.24(public race) within 4 months. I hope to beat that next year and improve considerable. Will it happen? time will tell? Not saying if...............

but doing it in races </td></tr></table> Why repaste everything.

[old] Thomas · Post by **[old] Thomas** » February 27th, 2006, 5:28 pm

Rupp, You need to unaffiliate with Supercanoa. You don't support the on-line ranking. Concept 2 has designed a method to get top ranked times approved. Furthermore, Concept 2 has demonstrated a sincere interest in improving upon that method with the use of the PM3. Not every talented rower can afford to go to an official race site or perhaps they just don't have the time. Or, maybe even, they are in a two income family with little kids and they would love to go but just can't. But the things that are available to them are things like e-row, rowpro, the on-line ranking, and/or perhaps a local rowing club. Dude, you need to fuck-off.

[old] John Rupp · Post by **[old] John Rupp** » February 27th, 2006, 5:36 pm

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE(Thomas @ Feb 27 2006, 01:28 PM) </div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Rupp, You need to unaffiliate with Supercanoa. </td></tr></table> Thomas, I will do that today. I'd rather not be on any team that has such a dumb ass like you on it.

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE</div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>You don't support the on-line ranking. </td></tr></table> Thomas, I have 10 events ranked for this year and they are all in my signature file.

How many do you have?

Whoops -- your ignorance is showing.

<table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td><div class='genmed'>QUOTE</div></td></tr><tr><td class='quote'>Dude, you need to fuck-off. </td></tr></table> Thomas, Can you tell me, how did you get so dumb? Did you take lessons for it?

Whatever you did it sure worked.

[old] Ericr · Post by **[old] Ericr** » February 27th, 2006, 5:50 pm

This thread is ending in the flamewar I predicted. On a sidenote, how difficult is it to quote somebody? Most postings are unreadable.

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